2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Riggins]

I never remember... is it only the first pick we can win or can we move up somewhere else too?

First and second.

Say we finish 8th worst. Our odds for 1st are 6% and for 2nd are 6.4%. That's still a 1 in 8 chance at a star.

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[Goldenhands]

Another 5 pts night for Bedard.

 

[G0bias]

The idea of missing out in a year with multiple surefire gamebreakers at the top is tough to stomach.

But maybe we gain a top player in Dach out of it, which would lessen the blow alot.

 

[Mrb1p]

The idea of missing out in a year with multiple surefire gamebreakers at the top is tough to stomach.

But maybe we gain a top player in Dach out of it, which would lessen the blow alot.

Ah, hopefully we get a Guhle out of that 10-15 pick.

Not gonna hope for another Caufield, that would be robbery and bad karma.

 

[SlafySZN]

Hughes and Gorton will start selling, don’t worry guys.

We’ll draft in the top 10.

 

[calder candidate]

I was kind of surprised by the game I watch of Cristall, sometimes good player take advantage of one or a few attributes/skill to produce but they just use the same strategy every time regardless of what is happening or high frequency but low succes. But he seem to always adjust and never fail to solve a situation with a different way. If he passes it won’t get intercepted, able to create space or to extend play controlling the puck, his shoot going to hit the net, he will be well positioned and open for a pass, he also seem very comfortable on the back hand side making play difficult play look easy.

 

[McGees]

Hughes and Gorton will start selling, don’t worry guys.

We’ll draft in the top 10.

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Unless they trade Cole, Suzuki, Dach, 1 of the rookie D or both goalies…trading anyone else at the deadline won’t affect our winning whatsoever - in fact we may start winning more!

 

[SlafySZN]

Unless they trade Cole, Suzuki, Dach, 1 of the rookie D or both goalies…trading anyone else at the deadline won’t affect our winning whatsoever - in fact we may start winning more!

Lmao! You’re not wrong.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Unless they trade Cole, Suzuki, Dach, 1 of the rookie D or both goalies…trading anyone else at the deadline won’t affect our winning whatsoever - in fact we may start winning more!

Our shooting percentage and GSAA is unsustainable, so it will equalize at some point but there's a lot of teams underperforming at a rate that the longer it takes for us to regress the more we hurt ourselves.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Ok I've accepted our fate. 7th-10th and low chance at Bedard...but still a chance.

More likely we're looking at the Sale, Dvorsky, Benson, Smith or Ritchie types. Find the one who pops off.

I think MTL is overperforming given their overall play.
Yesterday for example against VAN, Demko was really bad, the posts were on Habs side. Against DET, referees played a role but Allen played at a level which will be hard to sustain. …

Also so many teams have been underperforming I don‘t think it‘s a given the Habs pick 7-10. Don‘t forget the East is stacked and most of the games will be played against Eastern teams : in the East everybody except MTL was expected to at least try for the playoffs. OTT and CBJ have been worse than expected but I don‘t see any other team weaker than the Habs in East. Let us hope CBJ becomes desperate and trades a 1st (even top 10 protected) for Dvorak

 

[KevSkillz4]

If Dach continue to produce like that... with Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Dach, I really think that grabing a player like Yager, Sale, Dvorsky, Wood or Barlow... will be pretty solid too. They will complete perfectly that type of forward group we already have.

I'm not really worried about the future of Habs... top 5 pick or not.

 

[FourQuarters]

I was kind of surprised by the game I watch of Cristall, sometimes good player take advantage of one or a few attributes/skill to produce but they just use the same strategy every time regardless of what is happening or high frequency but low succes. But he seem to always adjust and never fail to solve a situation with a different way. If he passes it won’t get intercepted, able to create space or to extend play controlling the puck, his shoot going to hit the net, he will be well positioned and open for a pass, he also seem very comfortable on the back hand side making play difficult play look easy.

Cristall is one of the most confident player in the WHL. He usually uses those skills, likes to make difficult and different plays, lacrosse goal attempt is his regular weapon. Sometimes high-risks play may fail and lead to rival's goal, but he will fight back and won't be afraid to try it again.
On the one hand, it's because the team's offense depended on him, coach just let him show his offensive nature, he controlled the game in the ozone, collecting the points is what he was supposed to do. On the other hand, his hockey IQ is tremendous.
The only thing I'm worried about is his dzone play… hmmm If you've seen this, you'll know what I'm talking about…

 

[KevSkillz4]

Matthew Wood will be a very good consolation prize if Habs don't pick top 10. He need some help and to work with his skating, but putting 10 points i 11 games at 17 years old in NCAA level, that's very solid. He looks like a player that I will certainly target if Habs pick between 11 and 16.

If not Colby Barlow it's a type of player, that's intrigue me. He could be a very good top 6 player at NHL level.

 

[FrankMTL]

I'm not too worried, we're only 4 points from the bottom 6 and 7 points from the bottom 3. We've also been playing some crap-tastic teams. Let's see where they're at 40-50 games Into the season.

 

[calder candidate]

Cristall is one of the most confident player in the WHL. He usually uses those skills, likes to make difficult and different plays, lacrosse goal attempt is his regular weapon. Sometimes high-risks play may fail and lead to rival's goal, but he will fight back and won't be afraid to try it again.
On the one hand, it's because the team's offense depended on him, coach just let him show his offensive nature, he controlled the game in the ozone, collecting the points is what he was supposed to do. On the other hand, his hockey IQ is tremendous.
The only thing I'm worried about is his dzone play… hmmm If you've seen this, you'll know what I'm talking about…

My sample is really small but even when he try to pull highlights reel stuff it didn’t seem to be high risk in term if going the other way, he always seem to made the best choice and make the most out of every occasion, but y’a is dzone play is very underwhelming he just doesn’t have the same feistiness that he has in the offensive zone, but since he has good Hockey IQ, does work hard and is in good position in other zone I fell even if it is a problem but it isn’t one that can’t be over come. If he wasn’t already I think that he is now top 15.

We need to start selling before it is too late…

 

[BergevinBurner]

The idea of missing out in a year with multiple surefire gamebreakers at the top is tough to stomach.

But maybe we gain a top player in Dach out of it, which would lessen the blow alot.

The way I'm trying to view it is that finishing as a basement team means essentially our young forwards stagnated, and our young defense looked out of place.

I know it's not black and white, but if you had to choose between these two options, which one do you think would set us up for better odds at a cup down the road?

A. We finish with 55-60 points and draft Fantilli, but Suzuki, Caufield and Dach put up the same same numbers as last year, showing no signs of development and our young defensemen look lost all season.

B. We finish with 70-80 points and draft Dvorsky, but Suzuki finishes at 80+ points, Caufield finishes with 70+, Dach finishes with 60+ and our young defensemen play well above expectations.

Ideally we'd finish 10th and win the lottery, but if we were to finish dead last again due to 0 development and drafted Bedard, then we could be set up to be the next Buffalo/Edmonton lol.

 

[G0bias]

The way I'm trying to view it is that finishing as a basement team means essentially our young forwards stagnated, and our young defense looked out of place.

I know it's not black and white, but if you had to choose between these two options, which one do you think would set us up for better odds at a cup down the road?

A. We finish with 55-60 points and draft Fantilli, but Suzuki, Caufield and Dach put up the same same numbers as last year, showing no signs of development and our young defensemen look lost all season.

B. We finish with 70-80 points and draft Dvorsky, but Suzuki finishes at 80+ points, Caufield finishes with 70+, Dach finishes with 60+ and our young defensemen play well above expectations.

Ideally we'd finish 10th and win the lottery, but if we were to finish dead last again due to 0 development and drafted Bedard, then we could be set up to be the next Buffalo/Edmonton lol.

Suzuki and Cole were PPG with MSL as coach, but we maintained a similar win% as with Ducharme. The difference this season is mainly in defense and goaltending. The young Ds seem to have helped considerably with transition, and Allen Montembeault are playing lights out.

 

[Gravity]

Suzuki and Cole were PPG with MSL as coach, but we maintained a similar win% as with Ducharme. The difference this season is mainly in defense and goaltending. The young Ds seem to have helped considerably with transition, and Allen Montembeault are playing lights out.

That's what's pissing me off the most.

 

[Mrb1p]

The way I'm trying to view it is that finishing as a basement team means essentially our young forwards stagnated, and our young defense looked out of place.

I know it's not black and white, but if you had to choose between these two options, which one do you think would set us up for better odds at a cup down the road?

A. We finish with 55-60 points and draft Fantilli, but Suzuki, Caufield and Dach put up the same same numbers as last year, showing no signs of development and our young defensemen look lost all season.

B. We finish with 70-80 points and draft Dvorsky, but Suzuki finishes at 80+ points, Caufield finishes with 70+, Dach finishes with 60+ and our young defensemen play well above expectations.

Ideally we'd finish 10th and win the lottery, but if we were to finish dead last again due to 0 development and drafted Bedard, then we could be set up to be the next Buffalo/Edmonton lol.

Not quite, there is very little difference between the first line of last year and this year.

Sure, the defense is better because of the three rookies but its mostly been Allen and Moutambou. I really don't understand why HuGo went with Jake... He has good value and he's too good to make us tank. We needed two project goaltender, there is no point in having Allen IMO. He's not gonna be good enough to win next year and he's too good to lose this year.

Since Montanbo is playing well I'd think about trading Jake, Ed and or Matheson. I understand the need for good vets but right now the team is mostly 50/50 vets and youngsters, its a non-issue.

JA, BG and one of Savy, Ed or Mathe shoulde be enough leadership.

 

[austin316]

We have a very easy schedule balance of November. Look for us to separate ourselves even more from the bottom 10 unfortunately and ruin our draft position even more.

 

[calder candidate]

The way I'm trying to view it is that finishing as a basement team means essentially our young forwards stagnated, and our young defense looked out of place.

I know it's not black and white, but if you had to choose between these two options, which one do you think would set us up for better odds at a cup down the road?

A. We finish with 55-60 points and draft Fantilli, but Suzuki, Caufield and Dach put up the same same numbers as last year, showing no signs of development and our young defensemen look lost all season.

B. We finish with 70-80 points and draft Dvorsky, but Suzuki finishes at 80+ points, Caufield finishes with 70+, Dach finishes with 60+ and our young defensemen play well above expectations.

Ideally we'd finish 10th and win the lottery, but if we were to finish dead last again due to 0 development and drafted Bedard, then we could be set up to be the next Buffalo/Edmonton lol.

I love that player are trending in the right direction but me worry is that we will play toward the playoff and once we are a playoff team we will be one /two player away from being legitimate contender or player from the supporting cast will be regressing so will fall short. If we get a top 4 pick I think it is almost garantie that we will able to push pass that invisible hurdle since we not only get a top talent + the FLA pick + our 2nd would also almost be as valuable as a 1st without even counting on the fact that we might be getting additional pick or prospect from trade.

 

[FourQuarters]

My sample is really small but even when he try to pull highlights reel stuff it didn’t seem to be high risk in term if going the other way, he always seem to made the best choice and make the most out of every occasion, but y’a is dzone play is very underwhelming he just doesn’t have the same feistiness that he has in the offensive zone, but since he has good Hockey IQ, does work hard and is in good position in other zone I fell even if it is a problem but it isn’t one that can’t be over come. If he wasn’t already I think that he is now top 15.

We need to start selling before it is too late…

Congrats, because this game is very "Cristall"… The weird thing is, his defence was not underwhelming when he played PK, but it was miserable in the 5on5… I think it's partly because he was looking forward to playing offensive play when the puck cleaned by his teammates, that's his role… But sometimes his teammates can't do that without his involvement. This season he didn't play with Dach, the coach seems to want him to drive top line and PP1 by his own, instead of collecting points by playing with Dach.
I haven't really thought about the ranking, but if he is a 1st rounder I would be happy. Last year he produce more points than other prospects whose name wasn't Bedard, but a lot of people didn't think he was top64, even not top96.

 

[jaffy27]

We have a very easy schedule balance of November. Look for us to separate ourselves even more from the bottom 10 unfortunately and ruin our draft position even more.

Draft position is determined after an 82 game schedule, not end of November.

Nothing is ruined here besides a fictional draft position that you’re hoping for in November that wouldn’t even count 5 months from now.

 

[Goldenhands]

Im guessing we will sign Dubois next summer if we cant get one of Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, Dvorsky.

A center line made of Suzuki Dubois Beck is still good enough to win cups.

 

[Habsrule]

Don’t worry the Habs will slip in the standings and draft in the top 10. Their goaltending is not sustainable with Allen and Montembleau playing the way that they are. Since playing Dach with Suzuki and Caufield all three players are playing at 100 point pace which is not sustainable either.

St. Louis, Ottawa, Columbus, Vancouver, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Calgary, Minnesota, Washington, Colorado, Buffalo and NY Rangers all have less points than Montreal. You have to assume that a bunch of those teams start to play better and leapfrog the Habs.