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2023 NHL Entry Draft

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HuGo Burner Acc said:
Better question is, are the teams that finished around the Habs better or worse off and by how much. Besides Arizona and Chicago who will be battling for Bedard, I can see every other bottom feeder team getting better.

If Habs trade Petry, send their prospects to marinate in the AHL which I would do as better to develop a year on a great team than a bad one, and have another offloading trade deadline, not to mention the uncertainty on the backend, I expect the Habs to finish bottom 5.

Like I said, I can see Philly getting better and signing bad deals in FA yet again, Seattle getting better specially if they bring up both beniers and wright, the devils getting better who might bring up Hughes and nemec on the backend and take a swing at goalie FA, Columbus if they bring up Kent Johnson and have another year of Sillinger and co, Ottawa with debrincat and maybe some FA moves, Detroit will probably get better as their young players might take the next step, Anaheim, etc.

Point is while Habs might see gains in certain departments like Suzuki and Caufield development or actually having a competent coach, they're the main team besides Arizona and Chicago that I can actually see regressing while not being as bad as last year due to no Ducharme in the first half
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In the last decade, if you finish last in your division, you're finishing bottom 5 in standings. There have been exceptions mainly with Central Division which has been inordinately strong.

But, it has been true in Atlantic division where a last place finish guarantees a top 5 pick.

Majority seem to think we'll finish last.
 
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Primetarget said:
Let's hope Price doesn't come back, we need Montembeault to play 60 games. If we trade Petry, Hoffman we will have better chances at finishing last again. But then again we will have Arizona and Chicago in our rearview mirror.



We finished last the wrong year, it would have made more sense to finish last next season.
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The good thing is habs are still terrible, constructed worse than last year, and the coming draft has a top 5 with players pretty much all better than in this year's draft
 
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Michkov is signed in Russia until 2025-2026.

My understanding is that when you draft him in the 2023 draft you hold his rights for 4 years since he’s an euro prospect. So basically after the 3 first years that you own his rights, all he has to do is play 1 more year in Russia and then he can pick the NHL team of his choice. And that’s if he ever intends to come to the NHL and without accounting pressure to stay in Russia, the war, having to play his ELC vs the money he makes in KHL, etc.

Might become a unique case of a generationnal talent falling at the draft.
 
Kent Nilsson said:
Michkov is signed in Russia until 2025-2026.

My understanding is that when you draft him in the 2023 draft you hold his rights for 4 years since he’s an euro prospect. So basically after the 3 first years that you own his rights, all he has to do is play 1 more year in Russia and then he can pick the NHL team of his choice. And that’s if he ever intends to come to the NHL and without accounting pressure to stay in Russia, the war, having to play his ELC vs the money he makes in KHL, etc.

Might become a unique case of a generationnal talent falling at the draft.
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I’m 99% certain you retain a drafted Russian prospect’s indefinitely. So if we draft Michkov we have his rights forever.
 
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HuGo Burner Acc said:
The good thing is habs are still terrible, constructed worse than last year, and the coming draft has a top 5 with players pretty much all better than in this year's draft
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We need to finish at the bottom again and hopefully we can win the lottery again..drafting Bedard will most likely complete the rebuild.
 
Primetarget said:
We need to finish at the bottom again and hopefully we can win the lottery again..drafting Bedard will most likely complete the rebuild.
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The rebuilds completion isn't that far away. The defence is all done and mostly developed. Just missing a no.1. They've drafted enough talent to make a great bottom 6 imo. They have at least half maybe more of their future top 6. Price is an unknown. Maybe they'll need to get another starter. So basically they're missing around 3-4 pieces and 1 of those will be chosen in the next draft. Let's say they use FA to get 1-2. Ultimately it just comes down to development at this point. Habs have pretty much all of the pieces, just gotta make them fit together
 
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Kent Nilsson said:
Michkov is signed in Russia until 2025-2026.

My understanding is that when you draft him in the 2023 draft you hold his rights for 4 years since he’s an euro prospect. So basically after the 3 first years that you own his rights, all he has to do is play 1 more year in Russia and then he can pick the NHL team of his choice. And that’s if he ever intends to come to the NHL and without accounting pressure to stay in Russia, the war, having to play his ELC vs the money he makes in KHL, etc.

Might become a unique case of a generationnal talent falling at the draft.
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There's no transfer agreement with Russia, so this does not apply. The only thing they've agreed to is to respect each other's contracts, so as long as Michkov has a contract in KHL he can't sign in NHL.

Basically, a team drafting him holds his NHL rights until age 27. Then he becomes a UFA.
 
Kent Nilsson said:
Michkov is signed in Russia until 2025-2026.

My understanding is that when you draft him in the 2023 draft you hold his rights for 4 years since he’s an euro prospect. So basically after the 3 first years that you own his rights, all he has to do is play 1 more year in Russia and then he can pick the NHL team of his choice. And that’s if he ever intends to come to the NHL and without accounting pressure to stay in Russia, the war, having to play his ELC vs the money he makes in KHL, etc.

Might become a unique case of a generationnal talent falling at the draft.
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It's incorrect, you hold the rights of Russian picks until they are UFA aged. People over blowing his contract, if he wants to he can buy out his contract, he has to do it 1 year in advance, So what could happen, he gets drafted in June, buys out his contract and plays the '23-'24 season in the KHL and then comes over for the '24-'25 season. Granted who knows if he would be willing to do that and it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out since Russia won't won't to lose their next big star to the NHL for nothing if they can prevent it but we'll see what happens.
 
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We're have a high likelihood of finishing bottom 5 next year. Arizona and Chicago are the only weaker rosters at the moment. Seattle is not strong but they should start to see some results/development next year but our roster is at the same level as its' currently constructed. Anaheim should be better but Phlly looks pretty hamstrung up against the cap so they'll probably be in the hunt for Bedard next year too. The rest of the league is difficult to interpret atm because free agency results will affect their potential.

We have no cap space to sign any "difference-makers" in the off-season and should be major sellers at the trade deadline, (Dadonov, Drouin, Allen and Hoffman). Byron and Armia will also go if there's takers but I'm since they currently have negative trade value I suspect its unlikely. Petry should be gone during this offseason unless the teams he wants to go to play hard ball (I vaguely recall comments about Detroit being a preferred destination but unsure how flexible he is on where he's willing to go and only has a 15 team no trade list)

The only two wildcards are Price and the MSL impact on our young players. If we get 45-55 games of "Vintage Price" we may end up around 20th overall, more likely we get 20-45 game of "Injured Price" and he won't have a massive impact on our standings as our Defense is going to be very suspect. If our young guys on offense and D make big strides we could jump a couple spots up but it likely just means we finish around 8th from the bottom.

As for who we get in 2023, It seems like anyone in the top 6 has all-star/franchise potential of varying degrees. I'm fine with Michkov even if we have to wait for him as he and Bedard look like the "Can't miss franchise players".
 
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