2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Vachon23]

 

[WeThreeKings]

That was the other stupid thing in wheelers mail bag, said Augustin could be the first goalie taken, if not then second or third.

Taking him over Fowler Hrabal or Bjarnason is dumb, even Gajan is questionable

 

[BergevinBurner]

Tuch, Farrell and Hutson on US Team

It'll be interesting to keep an eye on Hutson to see how his game translates against NHL caliber players.

 

[Vachon23]

And I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up here before then.

If NHL teams where confident with that, he would't slip.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It'll be interesting to keep an eye on Hutson to see how his game translates against NHL caliber players.

Won't matter. Farrell was really good in the Worlds last year and then people lost their minds cause he didn't immediately dominate at the end of this year.

He will do well, get hyped even more. Come over at the end of next year and then be declared too small, too weak, etc and never gonna make it.

 

[habsfan891]

Won't matter. Farrell was really good in the Worlds last year and then people lost their minds cause he didn't immediately dominate at the end of this year.

He will do well, get hyped even more. Come over at the end of next year and then be declared too small, too weak, etc and never gonna make it.

As is tradition

 

[phillytennis]

I think the Habs would pick Carlsson over Fantilli.

But we'd need pick #2 for that.

If the Habs draft 2nd overall, there is no indication that they would select Carlsson over Fantilli. On all/nearly all draft rankings, Fantilli is secure at 2. If anything, I have seen Carlsson drop to 5 and 8.

 

[phillytennis]

Bedard too. F them smol guys.

Bédard is a lot better skater than Michkov...better edge work.
Both have strong instincts around the net.

 

[AHShadow]

I think the Habs would pick Carlsson over Fantilli.

But we'd need pick #2 for that.

Curious what makes you say that. Maybe it's cause I'm used to Timmins' always picking NCAA guys, but for some reason always felt that the Habs would draft Fantilli 2nd.

Another poster @junyab did this exercise for the last 5 drafts. Not a single draft followed McKenzie's ranking, and only 2 of the 5 got the 5 players right. Post quoted below.

Last year was actually the closest (only Wright and Nemec swapped places but fifth got picked at fifth place).

Honestly if we would draft Michkov if he drops to us then I legit don't care what happens in the first 4 picks as long as our top 6 is a mix of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith and Benson.

 

[phillytennis]

I don't think people understand the value of making high end plays at high speed.

This is why I see Smith going before Carlsson as well.

Agreed...Will Smith is like a savant on the ice...high end instincts and intelligence.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If the Habs draft 2nd overall, there is no indication that they would select Carlsson over Fantilli. On all/nearly all draft rankings, Fantilli is secure at 2. If anything, I have seen Carlsson drop to 5 and 8.

I said "I think" , just an intuition thing. Nothing concrete. I'm just a dude on a forum.

 

[phillytennis]

Smith has some of the worse skating in the top 10 and hes 200% slower than Carlsson?

Michkov is slower than Smith.

 

[Vachon23]

3 weeks ago, the discussion on this board was who is better between Zach Benson and Will Smith and it was close to 50/50

Now Will Smith is better the Leo Carlsson ? Something isn't working...

 

[phillytennis]

It seems fairly consensus on Michkov I think it's just a matter of whether the Habs are willing to take the risk.

If Michkov is not there in Nashville on draft day....move on...think of taking the best player available when we pick.

 

[phillytennis]

That was the other stupid thing in wheelers mail bag, said Augustin could be the first goalie taken, if not then second or third.

Taking him over Fowler Hrabal or Bjarnason is dumb, even Gajan is questionable

Hrabal and Bjarnarsson were pretty average at the u18 tournament.
Augustin was the difference in the US beating Sweden in the gold medal game.

 

[phillytennis]

3 weeks ago, the discussion on this board was who is better between Zach Benson and Will Smith and it was close to 50/50

Now Will Smith is better the Leo Carlsson ? Something isn't working...

A reminder that Will Smith was selected the best player in u18 tournament...though I would still take Carlsson over him because despite both having great talent, Carlsson is bigger.

 

[Vachon23]

A reminder that Will Smith was selected the best player in u18 tournament...though I would still take Carlsson over him because despite both having great talent, Carlsson is bigger.

The U18 is a 10 days tournament that doesn't have the same value without Russia. It should be a minor part of your evaluation on a player, what he does in the season + playoff with his team is WAY more important then what a player does in that tournament

 

[Mrb1p]

Michkov is slower than Smith.

No hes not at all, lol.

3 weeks ago, the discussion on this board was who is better between Zach Benson and Will Smith and it was close to 50/50

Now Will Smith is better the Leo Carlsson ? Something isn't working...

Typical late season hype from people who watch a few highlights/ a game or two/tournaments.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hrabal and Bjarnarsson were pretty average at the u18 tournament.
Augustin was the difference in the US beating Sweden in the gold medal game.

Hrabal was Czechia.

And you're not drafting goalies for what they are now. Augustine is Fucale, he's already technically advanced and calm but athletically there isn't much left (imo). Hrabal has a lot of conditioning, body control and technique to refine but the upside is massive.

 

[Vachon23]

Hrabal and Bjarnarsson were pretty average at the u18 tournament.
Augustin was the difference in the US beating Sweden in the gold medal game.

Bjarnarsson had 1 bad game and it was the 1st one against Sweden where the whole team didn't show up. He was solid for the rest of the tournament

 

[Mrb1p]

A reminder that Will Smith was selected the best player in u18 tournament...though I would still take Carlsson over him because despite both having great talent, Carlsson is bigger.

Michkov was selected the best player in the same tournament, two years ago. In a much stronger competition.

 

[phillytennis]

No hes not at all, lol.

Typical late season hype from people who watch a few highlights/ a game or two/tournaments.

Latest information boys...most up-to-date info.
Check your vision...Michkov is average speed...Smith is faster...obvious...lol!!

 

[SOLR]

They not even in the same tier....

Arguably, we don't know that. Smith could potentially play in older leagues too.

 

[phillytennis]

Michkov was selected the best player in the same tournament, two years ago. In a much stronger competition.

Stronger competition, lol...2023 is a stronger draft class...obvious...lol

 

[SOLR]

That was the other stupid thing in wheelers mail bag, said Augustin could be the first goalie taken, if not then second or third.

Taking him over Fowler Hrabal or Bjarnason is dumb, even Gajan is questionable

St-Augustin

Stronger competition, lol...2023 is a stronger draft class...obvious...lol

My sarcasm censor has been broken all day, oh well, more coffee.