2023 NHL Entry Draft

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Trying to get a look at Engström and I came away impressed with Axel Lindell Pellikka. He jumps off the screen at you, excellent skater, loads of confidence (probably a little bit too much).
How was Engstrom though? Norris winner yet?

Those are BUST numbers!

About Carlsson vs Fantilli: Carlsson is way more slick and clever. Fantilli at this point is a collection of awesome physical traits. The good thing about these two is that they're playing at levels that tend to weed out the fakes.
I already used the slick adjective for Carlsson, get off my lawn.
 
I have Benson a bit lower than those guys because of size and skating. He will be able to be effective no matter what but I the others have high end iq, skills, size and skating. Obviously Bedard and Michkov don't have the size but the talent level is way higher.

So do I & I absolutely love Benson. Kid has magical hands.

Top 4, Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson & Yager are just a step above due to size, skating, and elite skills too.
 
I'd be perfectly fine with Yager too.


Crazy release. That release in stride is gonna make him a player. Beautiful and pretty rare skill to have.


Yager is a really nice piece, but I never go away from a performance and think this guy is an NHL star waiting to happen.
Then you are underrating his shooting ability.
 
Yager reminds me a lot of MacKinnon. I don't think he has the same hands or the same top speed but just his ability to accelerate and shoot seamlessly in stride.
Yup……outside that top 4, he’s my #1 pick

Wonder if he’ll be a winger or centre at the NHL level. I can’t project that like you and many on here can.

If Dach turns out to be what made him 3rd overall, Yager would look great on his wing like Slaf and Caufield would with Suzuki.

We are so close to being so talented in that top 6
 
Your top 4

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Michkov

There’s your first tier in that top 12

Here’s your 5 to 8 range

Yager
Benson
Dvorsky
Allen

And your 9 to 12 range

Ritchie
Stramel
Halttunen
Sale

Geez…everyone is getting a good player in that top 12 lol
Too bad Sale is looking like 1-3 range.
 
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His abilities are equal, but his iq is far above those guys. You dont need as great center when you have gamebreaking playdriving winger.

No his IQ is not "far above those guys" - I've been watching Sale for 2 years now, you have to calibrate what you see with the level of competition and track record. Hlinka was a good demonstration of that. He's a good player in his age group because of his IQ, but this is not a magical IQ. Challenger for the top 10, no more (only because this year is nuts.)
 
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No his IQ is not "far above those guys" - I've been watching Sale for 2 years now, you have to calibrate what you see with the level of competition and track record.
So you are saying that being point per game player as 17yo with 3rd line minutes, without pp time, in one of the euro top leagues is less impressive then playing against kids? So far based on competition and production he is top 3 pick, and there is nothing you can do to prove me wrong.
 
So you are saying that being point per game player as 17yo with 3rd line minutes, without pp time, in one of the euro top leagues is less impressive then playing against kids? So far based on competition and production he is top 3 pick, and there is nothing you can do to prove me wrong.

There is 3 games played lol, in the Czech league. The CHL teams are as good as the adult czech league teams...(many are better).

Every year is the same, "but he's POINT PER GAME" - then I look at the number of games played 1-3.

Let's see how he does over 40-50 games shall we?
 
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So you are saying that being point per game player as 17yo with 3rd line minutes, without pp time, in one of the euro top leagues is less impressive then playing against kids? So far based on competition and production he is top 3 pick, and there is nothing you can do to prove me wrong.

PPG after 3 games means f*** all. KK was PPG+ after his first 7 games or so in Liiga in his draft season. He was wearing the gold helmet when I first saw him.
 
His abilities are equal, but his iq is far above those guys. You dont need as great center when you have gamebreaking playdriving winger.

I don't think there's any evidence corroborating that right now. I'm very high on Sale but when you compare him to someone like Yager right now, I think it's clear you're taking Yager over Sale.

There's an entire scouting season left for that to change.
 
There is 3 games played lol, in the Czech league. The CHL teams are as good as the adult czech league teams...(many are better).

Every year is the same, "but he's POINT PER GAME" - then I look at the number of games played 1-3.

Let's see how he does over 40-50 games shall we?
Sale would s** on CHL, thinking that CHL can compete against Czech ELH is nonsense, they would not stand a chance agains DEL maybe not even against EBEL, your take is absolutely ridiculous!
 
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