2023 NHL Entry Draft

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Even with Michkov's contract, I'd go with him if he falls to Montreal's spot. I don't care if it takes a few years before he comes over. It takes a few years even for guys like Lafreniere, Barkov, Mackinnon to become franchise level. In fact, the team would be getting a superstar on an ELC at the moment they'll be ready to compete.
According to how the war goes. If it goes bad between Russia and the West. Where it is deep draft he may slide. If Allen looks like Fox at year's end would a team pass on future Adam Fox for better player but uncertain if he ever gets here. Difficult choice. In one hand you have Adam Fox, in the other a maybe Ovechkin.
 
With the extra picks I’d like to see them move up to get another stud at the top of the draft. If Michkov falls past 5 would you trade up for him? I don’t think he gets past Detroit
 
Any good goalies in this upcoming draft. I am thinking a V type with the Florida pick? Nashville has two young goalies maybe they trade one? We have stock pile of extra picks and prospects to offer them.

With Price's bad knee and Allen a UFA, Habs need to prepare for the future.
They should wait another year and see how the goalie prospects they have look. Primeau, Dobes, Dichow, Vrbetic.
 
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They should wait another year and see how the goalie prospects they have look. Primeau, Dobes, Dichow, Vrbetic.

They should continue to add a goalie prospect every draft. Let the board dictate when you take them but once you get into 5th round on, an athletic goalie with size from college/europe is as good a gamble as any.
 
They should continue to add a goalie prospect every draft. Let the board dictate when you take them but once you get into 5th round on, an athletic goalie with size from college/europe is as good a gamble as any.

We'll have to pick one higher than that. For all the jazz against goalies in the first round, they tend to make it to the NHL and play for some time. Wallstedt is not about to stop that trend...
 
They should continue to add a goalie prospect every draft. Let the board dictate when you take them but once you get into 5th round on, an athletic goalie with size from college/europe is as good a gamble as any.
They are good value picks in the late rounds. Our goaltending prospects make our prospects pool pretty underrated IMO.
 
We'll have to pick one higher than that. For all the jazz against goalies in the first round, they tend to make it to the NHL and play for some time. Wallstedt is not about to stop that trend...

If the board is there, absolutely. Askarov or Wallstedt would have been worth a first round selection. But there's no reason to reach in any round for a goalie prospect unless they're absolutely built differently like those two prospects clearly were.
 
We have no goaltenders in our system that are capable of replacing Price. This needs to be a top priority.
 
We have no goaltenders in our system that are capable of replacing Price. This needs to be a top priority.

You can't just fabricate a Price level prospect out of thin air. There hasn't been any to draft since Askarov and we didn't have a pick in that range.

Wallstedt isn't Price level but he's good and again we were picking too late to grab him.

There isn't anyone in this draft that has shown a track record to be close to a Price level prospect.

Dobes, Dichow and Primeau are as good as there is out there save Wallstedt, Knight, Askarov and Dostal.
 
We have no goaltenders in our system that are capable of replacing Price. This needs to be a top priority.
No one will replace legendary Price, anyone expecting our next starters to be Price level caliber are desillisional. But we still have some good ones in the system that have the potential to become solid starters. Also, the team is headed in the right direction and there is a good chance our young goalies benefit from having better teams in front than Price ever had.
 
They should continue to add a goalie prospect every draft. Let the board dictate when you take them but once you get into 5th round on, an athletic goalie with size from college/europe is as good a gamble as any.
True. There is no need to draft a goaltender early unless you think he is the next star goaltender. But in the later rounds if there is nothing out there that interests HuGo then a goaltender is a good bet.
 
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No one will replace legendary Price, anyone expecting our next starters to be Price level caliber are desillisional. But we still have some good ones in the system that have the potential to become solid starters. Also, the team is headed in the right direction and there is a good chance our young goalies benefit from having better teams in front than Price ever had.
I completely agree and even stated that the post price era will probably be reminiscent of the post Dryden era in terms of length before you land another superstar goalie. (I'm not counting the Habs out of landing a great goalie who is good enough to take the torch from Price who took it from Roy, who took it from Dryden, who took it Plante and so on. Theyve gotten so lucky in their history with super elite goalies that it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen again 5-10 years after Price is gone, which would be when Suzuki is probably around 40 lol. But you don't need that calibre of goalie to win the cup as we've seen in the past decade or so. It was also interesting when Hughes said no one in the organization is no.1 calibre so I'm curious to see if they prefer the trade/FA route to obtain a good goalie. Not desirable but could still work depending on the player and contract
 
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They should continue to add a goalie prospect every draft. Let the board dictate when you take them but once you get into 5th round on, an athletic goalie with size from college/europe is as good a gamble as any.

I wouldn't say every draft since there's only so few spots/need and the position doesn't carry much trade value. You can always find the undrafted NCAA FA like Yann Danis, Lindgren, etc... to fill in either at the AHL, ECHL, or perhaps the NHL level.
 
I completely agree and even stated that the post price era will probably be reminiscent of the post Dryden era in terms of length before you land another superstar goalie. (I'm not counting the Habs out of landing a great goalie who is good enough to take the torch from Price who took it from Roy, who took it from Dryden, who took it Plante and so on. Theyve gotten so lucky in their history with super elite goalies that it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen again 5-10 years after Price is gone, which would be when Suzuki is probably around 40 lol. But you don't need that calibre of goalie to win the cup as we've seen in the past decade or so. It was also interesting when Hughes said no one in the organization is no.1 calibre so I'm curious to see if they prefer the trade/FA route to obtain a good goalie. Not desirable but could still work depending on the player and contract

Before Price we had Theodore winning the hart and Huet making us competitive, we don't need a Price-level goalie - but we should try to draft one, when one will be available in the late 1st round, if that happens.
 
Before Price we had Theodore winning the hart and Huet making us competitive, we don't need a Price-level goalie - but we should try to draft one, when one will be available in the late 1st round, if that happens.
I agree you don't need one. I think I elided to that. I just said with Habs hood fortunates in obtaining all time goalies, I'm gonna put my money on them getting that calibre of goaltender in the next 15-20 years
 
We have no goaltenders in our system that are capable of replacing Price. This needs to be a top priority.
We really don't... I know the last 2 times we won a Stanley Cup was because a goalie stole them for us but ultimately, aside from Tampa Bay, all the latest Stanley Cup winners had a goalie that got hot but wasnt anything special.

Darcy Kuemper isnt anything special, Jordan Binnington got hot but they regret his contract today. Brayden Holtby got hot, Penguins won with Matt Murray twice? Blackhawks had Crawford .... Jonathan Quick had some good years but wasn't Price level, redneck Tim Thomas was hot when boston won....

My point is, if the difference between a .910 goalie and a .920 goalie is 5m a year, then I'd rather pay the former and spend that 5m somewhere else in the lineup, makes for a better product to watch on the ice for 82 games and is a better way to get there every year,

Allen Montembault Primeau Dobes Vrbetic Dichow Croteau ought to be more than enough for now. If down the road we are competing and it is holding us back then sure we can make it a priority later but now..... I respectuflly disagree
 
After watching Bedard carefully in this tournament, its clear to me that he needs to get stronger, faster, better defensively and improve his game away from the puck. Very good talent, but certainly not a surefire 1st OV in a great draft, he will have to show improvement in the areas mentionned above to earn that 1st OV spot .
 
After watching Bedard carefully in this tournament, its clear to me that he needs to get stronger, faster, better defensively and improve his game away from the puck. Very good talent, but certainly not a surefire 1st OV in a great draft, he will have to show improvement in the areas mentionned above to earn that 1st OV spot .
Not hoping for this kid to be anything less than amazing but Ive never felt that the kid was generational like some have said. I still think he'll be the 1OA but this draft will be remembered for its top 5ish and not by a single player, even if that player becomes a superstar
 
After watching Bedard carefully in this tournament, its clear to me that he needs to get stronger, faster, better defensively and improve his game away from the puck. Very good talent, but certainly not a surefire 1st OV in a great draft, he will have to show improvement in the areas mentionned above to earn that 1st OV spot .
For the little i watched of Michkov, i had a slight preference for him over Bedard but there’s no way he could get picked before him. Other than those two, no players are on their level.
 
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Not hoping for this kid to be anything less than amazing but Ive never felt that the kid was generational like some have said. I still think he'll be the 1OA but this draft will be remembered for its top 5ish and not by a single player, even if that player becomes a superstar

He's a generational shooter. We've never seen a prospect this good at shooting at that age ever. Not Ovechkin, not Matthew's.
 
After watching Bedard carefully in this tournament, its clear to me that he needs to get stronger, faster, better defensively and improve his game away from the puck. Very good talent, but certainly not a surefire 1st OV in a great draft, he will have to show improvement in the areas mentionned above to earn that 1st OV spot .

Sure, every 17-year-old need to improve all that. Who did you compare him with? Nobody because he was the only draft-eligible remotely producing well in a 20+ years old tournament (and he's young in his draft year). They even sent him out in overtime. They didn't trust Crosby like that in his 16 years old WJC.

I saw all his current flaws as well, but I find your statement absolutely ridiculous given the situation. He's in McDavid levels of surefire at this point, so far ahead of the pack (again ignoring Michkov here for the time being, Michkov is likely the real 1st OV this year).

Dvorsky was the only other competing player that was in the tournament, he struggled mightily, the game was too fast for him - and he's going top 10 at least. Let's see if and how Carlsson, Fantilli, Yager, Benson, Allen play at that level in December in a weaker field. 2023 might be a strong draft, but finding them flaws against 2020 draftees is nearly comical.
 
For the little i watched of Michkov, i had a slight preference for him over Bedard but there’s no way he could get picked before him. Other than those two, no players are on their level.
Leo Carlsson is intriguing, 6"3 center, was the best Swedish foward in the 2 games Ive watched at the Hlinka 2 yrs ago, looked better than Ohgren, Lekki ect. Fantilli I will have to watch more.
 
Leo Carlsson is intriguing, 6"3 center, was the best Swedish foward in the 2 games Ive watched at the Hlinka 2 yrs ago, looked better than Ohgren, Lekki ect. Fantilli I will have to watch more.
Yes. Carlsson is already my favorite prospect of the 2023 draft, i don’t think he’s Bedard or Michkov level but i would be very very very happy if we end up with him!
 
Sure, every 17-year-old need to improve all that. Who did you compare him with? Nobody because he was the only draft-eligible remotely producing well in a 20+ years old tournament (and he's young in his draft year). They even sent him out in overtime. They didn't trust Crosby like that in his 16 years old WJC.

I saw all his current flaws as well, but I find your statement absolutely ridiculous given the situation. He's in McDavid levels of surefire at this point, so far ahead of the pack (again ignoring Michkov here for the time being, Michkov is likely the real 1st OV this year).

Dvorsky was the only other competing player that was in the tournament, he struggled mightily, the game was too fast for him - and he's going top 10 at least. Let's see if and how Carlsson, Fantilli, Yager, Benson, Allen play at that level in December in a weaker field. 2023 might be a strong draft, but finding them flaws against 2020 draftees is nearly comical.
Yep, didnt like Dvorsky much either. Im only saying that its a strong draft at the top and that Bedard has things to work on. But the shooting skills are amazing and he moves well out there.
 
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