I definitely wouldn't take him with our first pick. I like him because despite being one of those ''complete'' player profiles, he has a surprisingly advanced offensive toolkit. He's very skilled.
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I definitely wouldn't take him with our first pick. I like him because despite being one of those ''complete'' player profiles, he has a surprisingly advanced offensive toolkit. He's very skilled.
le_sean
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His offence is a lot better than Beck’s at the same age. Way more slick.
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I'm cool with Danielson on the second pick as well. If the Habs' ended up picking closer to 10 than 5, I would also be okay with that decision.
Like him more than some of the other Canadian players that have received a lot more hype.
Like him more than some of the other Canadian players that have received a lot more hype.
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People should learn to think in term of probabilities and possibilities instead of thinking in absolute.
Its true for every aspect of life, but even moreso when it comes to hockey and even moreso when it comes to prospects.
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I dont know exactly why Danielson is painted as some low offense/ceiling guy? He has good tools all over.
I think the guy that Wilde is referring to here is probably Reinbacher.
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The only prospect that I can think of that would have size and physicality that would be sane to pick with the 5th or 6th pick.
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The only prospect that I can think of that would have size and physicality that would be sane to pick with the 5th or 6th pick.
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I don’t believe any ‘’rumours’’I think the guy that Wilde is referring to here is probably Reinbacher.
Worrying statement regarding the CH and the 2023 draft
With the NHL trade deadline behind us, the focus is now on the 2023 draft for the Montreal Canadiens.
The only prospect that I can think of that would have size and physicality that would be sane to pick with the 5th or 6th pick.
Those same people thought the habs would take Wright.
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Depending on how the lottery goes, I think Smith, Benson, Reinbacher and Barlow CAN get picked before Michkov. I think we'll have a shot at him. Please don't f this up.
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If we pick 8th I want Ryan Leonard. Brings elements to the Center position that we could certainly use and I think he’s underrated. Complete shot in the dark with the Florida pick, but if it’s not traded, I say draft Calum Ritchie or Carson Bjarnason. They both are reaches but I see Ritchie on Dach’s wing. He needs to get bigger and shoot more but he’d fill a top 6 RW role. Or take a goalie. It’s not like he doesn’t need more time to develop and I’m not sure the good ones don’t go before we pick in the second. That’s why I chose Bjarnason. I like his game and he’s one of the youngest prospects in the draft.
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If we do end up with the 2nd pick…
Let me hear the argument for someone other than Fantilli. I know there’s a Carlsson crew and a Michkov mob but to me Fantilli would just be a perfect addition to our lineup and has every attribute you could ever want.
Let me hear the argument for someone other than Fantilli. I know there’s a Carlsson crew and a Michkov mob but to me Fantilli would just be a perfect addition to our lineup and has every attribute you could ever want.
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Then Benson is both. A creative player who works hard and plays a translatable game. Its this guy at 5 (if hes there)
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I’d be OK with Benson at 5. Think there are some solid options and he’s one of them. But there are a few small red flags which would have me more meh about it than excited.
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Would be pretty happy with Smith or Benson at 5 or 6.
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Michkov is simply the better player.
That's the argument. Hes a potential Pavel Bure kind of guy. He'd be the best offensive player the Habs have had since Lafleur. He would push Caufield to the 2nd line.
With that said, Id be happy with Fantilli, less so with Carlsson.
Heres why: I think AF is closer to the NHL than LC, and both have similar upside. Fantilli also brings a game that would suit Slaf and Dach really well, they would have the potential to be the toughest line to handle, maybe ever.
The question remains: are the Habs competiting in the next two years with AF, or can we afford to wait for Michkov?
The only red flag is that hes shorter than 5'11
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I think the guy that Wilde is referring to here is probably Reinbacher.
Worrying statement regarding the CH and the 2023 draft
With the NHL trade deadline behind us, the focus is now on the 2023 draft for the Montreal Canadiens.
The only prospect that I can think of that would have size and physicality that would be sane to pick with the 5th or 6th pick.
That's such a bullshit article written by a journalist who had absolutely nothing to go on but needed to write a story. Everything in it is complete conjecture with zero substance. Infotainment at its worst.
le_sean
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Wilde doesn’t know anything or anyone in the organization.I think the guy that Wilde is referring to here is probably Reinbacher.
Worrying statement regarding the CH and the 2023 draft
With the NHL trade deadline behind us, the focus is now on the 2023 draft for the Montreal Canadiens.
The only prospect that I can think of that would have size and physicality that would be sane to pick with the 5th or 6th pick.
When Wilde had a steady job he was one of the only critical Montreal journalists. When he lost it, he became a sycophant trying desperately to get his credentials again. He just tries too hard to be read.
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First in regards to Benson:
Let just state off the bat that I’m a fan of the player. He’s an incredibly smart player who plays with infectious energy, just a great hockey player who is fun to watch. But for a 5th overall pick, there’s no denying he’s lacking with the size/skating/shot combo. I’ve tended to notice guys who are mediocre when it comes to size/skating tend to need an elite shot to make up for it and Benson doesn’t have that. He also plays a game where I fear he’s going to get demolished frequently in the NHL. Heck he’s on the shelf in junior currently after getting demolished. That all said, perhaps none of it matters and he has enough attributes where his smarts and energy turn him into a star. But he’s hardly the complete package…
Which brings me to Fantilli. I just don’t see how you can gamble on a Russian over a guy like Fantilli who just grades incredibly high across the board. Michkov could be a star no doubt, but so could Fantilli? And Fantilli is ready to play Day 1 while who knows if Michkov ever comes over…
Isn’t Wilde tight with Grant? Grant definitely knows people in the org and he seems to be signaling But and Dvorsky the same way he signaled Slafkovsky and many others before…
le_sean
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Grant doesn’t know anyone either. His connection was well known - Trevor Timmins - who threw him bits of information back in the Tinordi/McCarron days. The Slafkovsky stuff was him parroting what others were already saying (remember, Slaf was #1 on Bob’s final list), he just took it to another level by completely bashing Wright as opposed to just pushing Slaf. Another person who is doing whatever it takes to get clicks.
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Yeah, I dont see anything else underwhelming about Benson and tbh, his size wont even matter in the NHL with how he plays. His skating while being only average rn will only get better because his skating mechanic is great (just need to get stronger). So, if you a have a 5’10-11 highly skilled, responsible, agile, not scared to get dirty and crazy smart player, you take him and thanks the gods we got that kind of player at 5-6.
GlassesJacketShirt
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Fantilli does feel like the best fit for the Habs on a conceptual level.
He's big, fast, skilled and plays with enthusiasm defensively. The IQ/game reading concerns are overblown, more of a relative weakness compared to the others in the top 3 (and Benson) rather than personal downside.
If I were to make an argument for Michkov, it's the overall offensive skillset is as complete as it gets. Some compare him to Kaprizov, others Kucherov; I think he's sort of like the best of both, at least as far as prospect evaluation goes. Historical outlier in Russian hockey, and that country is known for its superstars.
Carlsson seems more like a player who tracks excellently in every regard. He's not a burner, but his skating is still strong enough for his size, and his puck protection skills are superb. Whereas Fantilli is more of an athletically gifted player, Carlsson excels in the details; I love his hands in tight, well above average for any forward size.
In summary:
1. Bedard (First World Nuclear Program)
2. Michkov (Offensive Mozart)
3. Fantilli (Master Chief)
4. Carlsson (Batman)
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DramaticGloveSave
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I agree with basically everything you said, just not sure I could take Michkov over Fantilli.
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Lmao boy lay off the chocolate today
offensive Mozart and master chief
GlassesJacketShirt
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Comes down to how much of a risk taker someone is.
Firstly, do you consider Fantilli is a better prospect in a vacuum? If so, then there really isn't anything else to say on the matter, you have your order locked in.
If you think it's 50/50 or advantage Michkov, here is an argument I can relay:
-The NHL has no need to ban Russian players and Michkov is too valuable as a piece of Russian hockey greatness to be sent to the frontlines any time soon
-The three year contract is non-factor since he will be progressing in a league that has displayed transferability of offense with other elite level prospects
-He will be developing out of the limelight and will ship to Montreal a near finished product as far as skill set and physicality; all that remains would be adaptation to NA ice and Habs' system
-He wants to play in the NHL, against the best, when he's ready
-If Michkov can't come over to the NHL due to global events, it's quite possible that none of us will give a damn about NHL hockey anyway by that point
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