2023 NHL Entry Draft

[le_sean]

spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue what they are talking about, or just another day at HF.

I worked for him a long time ago, he's highly connected because of who he's related to and he has other connections as well.

Poor you

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue what they are talking about, or just another day at HF.

I worked for him a long time ago, he's highly connected because of who he's related to and he has other connections as well.

So, why didn't he take another scouting job ?

Whether you're good, or bad, if you know someone, you get recycled.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue what they are talking about, or just another day at HF.

I worked for him a long time ago, he's highly connected because of who he's related to and he has other connections as well.

Bob McKenzie?

 

[Jabba11]

Anything within the top 8 for me makes me optimistic. I believe theyre all better prospects than Slaf, having him fall to #2 on the future depth chart is very good.

I usually like your takes on things, but I strongly disagree with the bolded part. I think that's major recency bias.

To me, only Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson and Benson are the better prospects than Slaf. I think Slaf is a unique prospect that we don't see every year. He's still very young and damn, I can't wait for him to shut the criticisms. Trust the process, Slaf is gonna be good for us, and the lottery pick this year will definitely be a true key to our core. I'm excited!

 

[Sherwoo9]

I am going to think super optimistic and that Florida loses their two remaining games (TOR and CAR) and just miss the playoffs. Ill do my top 16.

1 Bedard
2 Fantilli
3 Michkov
4 Carlsson
5 Benson
6 Smith
7 Reinbacher
8 Cristall
9 Leonard
10 Smith
11 Sale
12 Barlow
13 Dvorsky
14 Wood
15 Yager
16 Sandin Pellikka

To me a top 6 pick with our pick is a must. If we end up picking Reinbacher #7 then ASP I wouldn’t pick with Florida’s pick.

I’ll suppose that the second Smith at 10 is supposed to be Moore?

 

[montreal]

So, why didn't he take another scouting job ?

Whether you're good, or bad, if you know someone, you get recycled.

That's a question for him, I never said he was good at what he does, I don't pay him or anyone for that matter much attention. But if you are trying to suggest he's not related to former NHL GM and HC, then I can tell you would be wrong. That doesn't even touch any contacts he made working with McKeens (he got me an interview with their Head Scout but they were only interested in a no pay intern)

 

[Goldenhands]

Anything within the top 8 for me makes me optimistic. I believe theyre all better prospects than Slaf, having him fall to #2 on the future depth chart is very good.

Cristall and Smith over Slaf, I think you need help.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Wilde, who worked with Grant at Recrutes, confirmed that Grant's sources are no longer in the organization once the HuGo changes were made.

So yeah, he might still have contacts in the scouting community.. but his inside knowledge of the Habs preferences are gone. He might know scouts who know Habs scouts well and who they might have their individual eye on, but as far as intimate knowledge of the internal ranking.. it's gone.

 

[Habsrule]

I’ll suppose that the second Smith at 10 is supposed to be Moore?

Oops. Yes it is. My bad lol

 

[le_sean]

Wilde, who worked with Grant at Recrutes, confirmed that Grant's sources are no longer in the organization once the HuGo changes were made.

So yeah, he might still have contacts in the scouting community.. but his inside knowledge of the Habs preferences are gone. He might know scouts who know Habs scouts well and who they might have their individual eye on, but as far as intimate knowledge of the internal ranking.. it's gone.

That’s what I was getting at. I don’t know or care about his NHL sources. The question was the Habs.

 

[Mrb1p]

I usually like your takes on things, but I strongly disagree with the bolded part. I think that's major recency bias.

To me, only Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson and Benson are the better prospects than Slaf. I think Slaf is a unique prospect that we don't see every year. He's still very young and damn, I can't wait for him to shut the criticisms. Trust the process, Slaf is gonna be good for us, and the lottery pick this year will definitely be a true key to our core. I'm excited!

I have Cristall, Smith and Reinbacher in the same tier as Benson, so theres that.

Slaf is unique as a player for sure, not denying that. Being unique can only take you so far though

 

[Goldenhands]

I have Cristall, Smith and Reinbacher in the same tier as Benson, so theres that.

Slaf is unique as a player for sure, not denying that. Being unique can only take you so far though.

You are bookmarked dude, there is a limit at the stupidities you are throwing over here. I cant stand it anymore, back to ignore.

 

[Schooner Guy]

If Habs pick 2nd overall, the "safe" choice is definitely Fantilli. But Carlsson has very strong arguments to be the 2nd best center of the class.

I think Carlsson will end up on the wing in the show. I believe that's where he's best suited. That's where he play in the SHL and that's where he played for Team Sweden in the WJC.

 

[Mrb1p]

You are bookmarked dude, there is a limit at the stupidities you are throwing over here. I cant stand it anymore, back to ignore.

Lol what

I think Carlsson will end up on the wing in the show. I believe that's where he's best suited. That's where he play in the SHL and that's where he played for Team Sweden in the WJC.

Disagree there, his game is tailored for the C.

 

[ginomini]

Slaf is a good prospect, but the fact he was drafted 1st does not suddenly make him a better prospect than Wright, Cooley, Nemec or Jiricek. There was no clear separation at the draft between those 4 and its still the case today.

Now pretty much everyone agrees that this year’s top 4 is above those guys so it’s absolutely not outrageous to say Slaf would be 8-12 this year on a personal list for someone who had him 3rd or 4th in last year’s very close top 5.

I had him 4th last year so without even taking into account guys after this year’s top 4 he would be 8th on my list only counting draft years. Nothing outrageous here.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Wilde, who worked with Grant at Recrutes, confirmed that Grant's sources are no longer in the organization once the HuGo changes were made.

So yeah, he might still have contacts in the scouting community.. but his inside knowledge of the Habs preferences are gone. He might know scouts who know Habs scouts well and who they might have their individual eye on, but as far as intimate knowledge of the internal ranking.. it's gone.

He basically nailed every pick we made last year.

 

[Steve Shutt]

He basically nailed every pick we made last year.

He used to post in here but I think the HF community was pretty hard on him. Is he still around and if so what's his user name. I enjoy reading his stuff

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

He used to post in here but I think the HF community was pretty hard on him. Is he still around and if so what's his user name. I enjoy reading his stuff

He’s on twitter. I don’t follow him myself since he’s so damn grumpy but I do check his account from time to time.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

If Fantilli reminds of Eichel…

Carlsson kind of reminds of Kappo Kakko.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

If Fantilli reminds of Eichel…

Carlsson kind of reminds of Kappo Kakko.

I don't hate this comparison stylistically, though I think Carlsson is a better prospect than Kakko who likely garnered good totals in his draft season because his grindy, possession style of play is nirvana for Finnish coaches who probably viewed the NHL's deadpuck era as the Wild West run amok.

Kakko is an interesting case study because he's equal parts impressive yet not, simultaneously. He does a great job maintaining possession of the puck along the boards, seems to be an effective passer, and rarely makes questionable decisions at this point. In some ways he's like a poor man's Svechnikov, wherein the eye test does not match the results; main difference is Svech is more creative and has a stick better suited for providing torque on his shot.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I don't hate this comparison stylistically, though I think Carlsson is a better prospect than Kakko who likely garnered good totals in his draft season because his grindy, possession style of play is nirvana for Finnish coaches who probably viewed the NHL's deadpuck era as the Wild West run amok.

Kakko is an interesting case study because he's equal parts impressive yet not, simultaneously. He does a great job maintaining possession of the puck along the boards, seems to be an effective passer, and rarely makes questionable decisions at this point. In some ways he's like a poor man's Svechnikov, wherein the eye test does not match the results; main difference is Svech is more creative and has a stick better suited for providing torque on his shot.

We’ll see what happens with Kakko from here forward, and while I think he’ll ultimately be a very good player, he simply seems to lack an explosive element to his game to be more than that.

That’s the difference between he and Svech I’d say, Svech has an explosive element in his shot and stride that Kakko lacks.

Fantilli has those explosive elements on the other hand. Puck flys off his stick despite a wicked quick release and we all know he can skate.

 

[SlafySZN]

The habs should draft Daniil But with Florida’s pick. There i said it.

 

[BergevinBurner]

The habs should draft Daniil But with Florida’s pick. There i said it.

How come come? I genuinely don't know much about him.

But at a quick glance it appears there's multiple other 17 year olds in the MHL that are outproducing him this season.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

If Fantilli reminds of Eichel…

Carlsson kind of reminds of Kappo Kakko.

Just want to clarify, this isn’t a diss of Carlsson. I do really like Carlsson, but I did also really like Kakko. If I were to say Carlsson has an advantage over Kakko is that that Carlsson does seem more dynamic with his puck handling ability.

Carlsson vs Fantilli is interesting but just think Fantilli has more upside even if he’s less consistent shift to shift.

Michkov is just a completely different player with completely different concerns.

 

[SlafySZN]

How come come? I genuinely don't know much about him.

But at a quick glance it appears there's multiple other 17 year olds in the MHL that are outproducing him this season

He’s PPG in the MHL.

I think he was 2nd behind Demidov (top prospect for the 2024 draft) in points in the playoffs.

But to be completely honest i’ve never paid attention to his stats. The thing with him that’s kinda fascinating is the combination of skills/smarts and size. Raw but the tools and everything is there.