2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Lockin17]

Do you guys think, the Habs would be interested in Ethan Gauthier ? he could play with Joshua Roy.

with our second rd pick or course

 

[Lockin17]

Safe bet on #5 is : Dvorsky or Reinbacher
Wild guess on #5 is : Smith or Benson
Could be a homerun at #5 is : Sale or Wood

at #15
Safe : Perreault
Wild ; Heidt
Homerun : Honzek

 

[JT3]

It's not generally flawed cause the top Scouts and GM keep doing what I just presented you. Every once in a while a Caufield proves that strategy wrong and then some fans think it's wrong all the time. Not true. Caufield is the exception but the exception is not the general rule.

The teams who passed up on Caufield did get hits in some areas. Lets not overlook that part as well.

So I repeat, do you think Benson is the exception like Caufield? You willing to gamble the 5-8 range pick on that? I'm not and yes, I know Benson's game fairly well.

Odd are Benson is no better than Jarvis value. Odds are Smith might be a Cozens. Who would you pick? Cozens or Jarvis? Knowing what you know today?

Where do you keep coming up with this Benson=Jarvis shtick? Their games are not comparable whatsoever. Is it because they're both smaller WHL forwards who put up points? They play nothing alike.

If anything, Smith is the one who would likely need to be sheltered based on the way he plays, not Benson. Benson has a very responsible two-way game and is a battler. Smith is weak defensively and doesn't engage, that won't translate to the NHL very well as a center.

 

[ginomini]

It's not generally flawed cause the top Scouts and GM keep doing what I just presented you. Every once in a while a Caufield proves that strategy wrong and then some fans think it's wrong all the time. Not true. Caufield is the exception but the exception is not the general rule.

The teams who passed up on Caufield did get hits in some areas. Lets not overlook that part as well.

So I repeat, do you think Benson is the exception like Caufield? You willing to gamble the 5-8 range pick on that? I'm not and yes, I know Benson's game fairly well.

Odd are Benson is no better than Jarvis value. Odds are Smith might be a Cozens. Who would you pick? Cozens or Jarvis? Knowing what you know today?

But like, Smith has nothing to do with Cozens, he's 6' not 6'3. Cozens is much more of a straight line high-motor/high-speed player. Smith is a deceptive player much more like Zegras in fact if you are looking for a 2019 comparison...

But anyway, the point is that every type of player is a gamble, a small player is not a bigger gamble. Benson could hit, or he could not. Its flawed to say we are looking for "an exception to the rule" there are no rules, just speculation. It's that belief that there exists some type of pattern or scouting rule that you can apply to all players that leads to evaluations outside of the player himself.

 

[larek]

With Dach back in the lineup, we could easily win 2 in a row and Philly lose 2 in a row and then we'd be right back tied with them in points.

Sure that could happen but the schedule isn't a help for Habs - and that's a good thing

 

[Addik04]

It's not generally flawed cause the top Scouts and GM keep doing what I just presented you. Every once in a while a Caufield proves that strategy wrong and then some fans think it's wrong all the time. Not true. Caufield is the exception but the exception is not the general rule.

The teams who passed up on Caufield did get hits in some areas. Lets not overlook that part as well.

So I repeat, do you think Benson is the exception like Caufield? You willing to gamble the 5-8 range pick on that? I'm not and yes, I know Benson's game fairly well.

Odd are Benson is no better than Jarvis value. Odds are Smith might be a Cozens. Who would you pick? Cozens or Jarvis? Knowing what you know today?

Not sure where you wanna go with that.

First, Caufield is 5'7, not 5'10. At 5'10, no way he was drafted 15. He was gone top 5 or 10 at max. Furthermore, Jarvis and Cozens have 21 years old... I really like Cozens, but way too soon to make any judgment.

But, if you want to compare, Clayton Keller was drafted 7. Much better comparison IMO even if it's not perfect. Pretty sure Marner was 5'10 or 11 when he was drafted as well.

So again, not sure where you are going there since 2-3 pages.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Brindley > Nazar that's forsure

 

[Anardil]

I'm not at the point of pounding the table for him with our first 1st rounder, but my limited viewings show me a still frail but mobile, offensively gifted 18y old RHD that thrived at the U20s as a 17y old. His hands are impressive, he's a great passer and he moves the puck out of the zone very well with his passes or his feet. He can take things in his own hands and get offensive zone entries with ease even at higher levels not unlike a certain Quinton Hughes.

Main downsides are on the D side of things, but nothing alarming like Dragicevic/etc.

He was listed 5'9 earlier this year, now I see reports of 5'11 180 lbs, which is certainly decent enough and eases concerns on that side.

Upside is huge, especially on the offense. You are not gonna like what I am about to say, but I'm way more excited about the upside of ASP than Reinbacher.

Different types of Ds and Reinbacher is "safer"/has a higher "floor", but I want more offensive upside in our D-core. Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Mailloux all have offensive limitations of their own... Only pure offensive D we have is Hutson, and he's a LHD.

If we draft one of the forwards at #5-8 and ASP is available with the Panthers pick, I'm on board.

You know who else thrived in two small sample sized tournaments? A certain Juraj Slafkovsky. I'd rather they pick someone who has shown better than average NHL potential throughout his draft year, this time around.

 

[montreal]

Brindley > Nazar that's forsure

nothing should be for sure, let's see how next year goes when Nazar is hopefully healthy all off season.

 

[Doublechin]

Brindley > Nazar that's forsure

Wouldn't disagree. Wouldn't bet on Nazar having a successful career unless I'm given unbelievable odds

 

[Expos94]

This is…an opinion

Was he drunk

 

[Expos94]

According to Button, Sale is the second-coming of Pastrnak !!!!!

He also thought Montreal wouldn't win a game against the leafs in the 2021 playoffs lol

 

[WeThreeKings]

Was he drunk

No he's just an edge lord

 

[Michoulicious]

Wouldn't disagree. Wouldn't bet on Nazar having a successful career unless I'm given unbelievable odds

Lost a year in development and joined Michigan when everybody had 4 months of playing hockey on him.

I think it is way too early to write him off, but we have to expect him staying in college for at least 2 more years.

 

[Michoulicious]

Was he drunk

He's a fool that like hot takes.

But before frickin Michkov is completely bonkers, especially given the fact both are Russian so it is not a factor.

 

[1909]

Safe bet on #5 is : Dvorsky or Reinbacher
Wild guess on #5 is : Smith or Benson
Could be a homerun at #5 is : Sale or Wood

at #15
Safe : Perreault
Wild ; Heidt
Homerun : Honzek

Reinbacher is not a to-10 pick. Habs could have him with their second first rounders.

could be wrong but i think i read somewhere that Russia gaved a pass on Michkov to skip military services so he can focus on hes hockey career

Putin is a crazy huge hockey fan if anything doesnt it serve him more to have more russians doing good in the NHL?

i dont follow politics because its always been a joke but i dont believe for a second that Michkov will be stuck in Russia because of this war

Wars are no jokes !

 

[le_sean]

Reinbacher is not a to-10 pick. Habs could have him with their second first rounders.

He is easily going Top 10 and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t go Top 5. RD is the most coveted player type in the league.

I think people will be surprised at who drops this year. GMs just don’t like smaller players. I’d bet Barlow gets taken before any of the US guys.

 

[Michoulicious]

You know who else thrived in two small sample sized tournaments? A certain Juraj Slafkovsky. I'd rather they pick someone who has shown better than average NHL potential throughout his draft year, this time around.

What are you talking about? Of course he has not produced that much in the SHL (they play him like 8 mins a night), but look at his production in J20.

He leads ALL Ds (not only the draft eligible) in point production, and by far.


Have you looked how much offensive Ds guys like Erik Karlsson produced in their draft year in the SHL? They don't get a lot of responsabilities because of their D game... This is not a development league.

The kid has been showing a lot more than average NHL potential this year. Looks like a future stud to me.

He's the first D on my board, in front of Reinbacher. I just like his upside too much. Of course he's less "NHL ready" and more of a project, but give him 1-2 years in the SHL to bulk up and improve his D play and I think we're good. Just too good of a skater, great hands, great vision... Pretty special talent if you ask me.

I think we need a good puck moving RHD with upside. If we can have him somehow with Florida's pick I'd be very, very glad.

 

[McGees]

Reinbacher is not a to-10 pick. Habs could have him with their second first rounders.

Wanna bet? He’s almost certainly gone top 10

 

[Playmaker09]

What are you talking about? Of course he has not produced that much in the SHL (they play him like 8 mins a night), but look at his production in J20.

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He leads ALL Ds (not only the draft eligible) in point production, and by far.


Have you looked how much offensive Ds guys like Erik Karlsson produced in their draft year in the SHL? They don't get a lot of responsabilities because of their D game... This is not a development league.

The kid has been showing a lot more than average NHL potential this year. Looks like a future stud to me.

He's the first D on my board, in front of Reinbacher. I just like his upside too much. Of course he's less "NHL ready" and more of a project, but give him 1-2 years in the SHL to bulk up and improve his D play and I think we're good. Just too good of a skater, great hands, great vision... Pretty special talent if you ask me.

I think we need a good puck moving RHD with upside. If we can have him somehow with Florida's pick I'd be very, very glad.

He's small, can't stand up to a forecheck and has average vision/passing.

He will struggle to adapt just as Boqvist and Brannstrom have before him.

 

[Michoulicious]

He's small, can't stand up to a forecheck and has average vision/passing.

He will struggle to adapt just as Boqvist and Brannstrom have before him.

Maybe. Or maybe he'll adapt just fine after a few years.

"Sandin-Pellika is a very offensive minded defenceman. He is blessed with excellent hockey sense, confidence and coolness. Everything looks so easy and natural when Sandin-Pellika has the puck under control in the offensive zone. He is a true power specialist that usually gets the puck on net and also delivers very good passes. Furthermore, he is mobile and a capable skater with good agility and technical skills.

​

The knock on Sandin-Pellika is his defensive game and size. While he is very cool and confident in the offensive zone, he sometimes chooses difficult solutions in the defensive end. He should play easier and be closer on his opponent. While Sandin-Pellika likely will not be much taller, he should definitely add more strength and muscles. The fact that Sandin-Pellika likes to get involved physically and can deliver rather good hits is a big plus. With added strength, his physical play would be much more effective."​

Sounds familliar?

It should, because it's an Erik Karlsson draft report...

• Name:Erik Karlsson
• Position: D
• Shoots: Right
• Height: 5-11
• Weight: 165 lbs
• Birth-date: 1990-05-31
• Eligible for Draft: 2008
• Hometown:Landsbro, Sweden
• Acquired: 1st round (#15 overall)

There is risk associated with every pick. I just think ASP has a very nice upside.

By the way, Boqvist is still only 22 years old and plays 22+ mins/ night on a terrible Columbus team. It's tad early to throw the towel on him IMO.

 

[WinterLion]

How many minutes until the draft?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

How many minutes until the draft?

Approximately, 131,040.

Exactly 13 weeks away.
10,080 minutes in a week.

10,080 x 13

Probably a little less, as Draft starts at 7 pm et.

 

[bleuetbio]

Not so familiar with the context but what Reinbacher has done that good recently to climb the ladder that high ?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

What are you talking about? Of course he has not produced that much in the SHL (they play him like 8 mins a night), but look at his production in J20.

View attachment 678276

He leads ALL Ds (not only the draft eligible) in point production, and by far.


Have you looked how much offensive Ds guys like Erik Karlsson produced in their draft year in the SHL? They don't get a lot of responsabilities because of their D game... This is not a development league.

The kid has been showing a lot more than average NHL potential this year. Looks like a future stud to me.

He's the first D on my board, in front of Reinbacher. I just like his upside too much. Of course he's less "NHL ready" and more of a project, but give him 1-2 years in the SHL to bulk up and improve his D play and I think we're good. Just too good of a skater, great hands, great vision... Pretty special talent if you ask me.

I think we need a good puck moving RHD with upside. If we can have him somehow with Florida's pick I'd be very, very glad.

He is a hard no for me at either one of our first round picks. His J20 stat don't mean too much as it is a weak league where he is at the top of a list of nobodies.

No way any team takes him ahead of Reinbacher imo.