2023 NHL Entry Draft

[WeThreeKings]

When is the last time a Russian star didn't eventually come over? Vladislav Tretiak?

When was the last time a Russian Star came over during the Ukraine War?

We just don't have the information right now, so we can only trust that if multiple organizations pass on Michkov they harbor veritable fears that it won't be easy to get him out of Russia.

 

[Maitz]

this is a very bi-polar team, one day theyre losing 9-2 to FLA, the other theyre winning against playoff teams. But its a tough remaining schedule.... I only see wins vs DET and maybe NYI. Take a look:

PHI with Primeau
FLA
CAR
DET
WSH
TOR
NYI
BOS


problem is you cant keep all that talent on top of Guhle, Hutson, Mailloux, Harris, (UFA goalie)

In 5 years theyd be way over the cap.... PLD contract would be too much a problem. I pass on him.

I think they beat BOS at the end of the season, they will rest players and probably they won’t go 100% to avoid injuries

 

[Tyson]

When is the last time a Russian star didn't eventually come over? Vladislav Tretiak?

Are you watching what is happening with Russia? How do we know he doesn't get conscripted? Could it happen? I don't know. Will a GM take that chance?

 

[amnesiac]

The eye test looked fine before every single player other than Nick Suzuki started getting injured.

It's EXTREMELY difficult to maintain a PPG pace when you're literally the only legitimate threat out there.

You become easy to game plan against.

I think you're being very harsh with Suzuki.

Eye test tells me he's quite easily a PPG player but he's not a miracle worker either.

Yeah I don't disagree with this argument on the whole, I was just responding to your suggestion that Nick Suzuki doesn't have it because of his point totals this season,

His point totals this season have been heavily influenced by all of the attrition that has surrounded him.

fair enough, but even great players on bad teams manage to take over a game. He just doesnt seem to have that. If he were 20 years old, Id say hes still young, but hes turning 24 in August.... but yes I admit, having a much better blue line, and a very good 2nd line to take the pressure off would help him tremendously. Time will tell.

Look Im even willing to say if they get say Will Smith, and he, Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky all end out being all-stars (but not top 20 players in the game), while Guhle, Hutson, and Mailloux reach their potential.... the Habs could have a STL/BOS type team when they won their respective Cups.

Still, thats hoping they win how 2 out of the last 12 teams won the Cup. I dont like those odds.

 

[26Mats]

When was the last time a Russian Star came over during the Ukraine War?

We just don't have the information right now, so we can only trust that if multiple organizations pass on Michkov they harbor veritable fears that it won't be easy to get him out of Russia.

Are you watching what is happening with Russia? How do we know he doesn't get conscripted? Could it happen? I don't know. Will a GM take that chance?

Ovechkin is a hero of the people.

I don't see Putin holding back the next Ovechkin from conquering the NHL. A lot of people love Putin. He'd lose too much support. But we'll see what information comes out.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ovechkin is a hero of the people.

I don't see Putin holding back the next Ovechkin from conquering the NHL. A lot of people love Putin. He'd lose too much support. But we'll see what information comes out.

He might want to keep that talent at home and use Michkov as a big attraction to entertain his people.

We just don't know.

 

[rahad]

Flyers will avoid shooting the puck cause they know they might make a mistake and find a Primeau hole.

Or the Habs are shopping Primeau to the Flyers in a Primeau+ trade for Hart?

Maybe they are shopping Primeau for the Jets!

I'm surprise you did not write: Florida first round pick + Primeau for PLD.

 

[AHShadow]

if only the draft could go that way..

Sign me up for Carlsson and Cristall as our picks, but I doubt Chicago goes D here. They're rebuilding in a draft with a bunch of potential superstar forwards. They're not skipping on both Carlsson and Michkov.

At this point I'm hoping for the following: Carlsson > Michkov > Benson to drop to us. I'd be really happy with any 3.

 

[417]

fair enough, but even great players on bad teams manage to take over a game. He just doesnt seem to have that. If he were 20 years old, Id say hes still young, but hes turning 24 in August.... but yes I admit, having a much better blue line, and a very good 2nd line to take the pressure off would help him tremendously. Time will tell.

He's alone out there...the amount of injuries that this team has dealt with, that he's somehow avoided, is so out of whack.

No other player in his situation has dealt with even remotely the same situation.

We should be marveling at what he's done this year given the hand he's been dealt.

Look Im even willing to say if they get say Will Smith, and he, Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky all end out being all-stars (but not top 20 players in the game), while Guhle, Hutson, and Mailloux reach their potential.... the Habs could have a STL/BOS type team when they won their respective Cups.

Still, thats hoping they win how 2 out of the last 12 teams won the Cup. I dont like those odds.

I don't think there's a specific way to win a Cup...it's a series of circumstances that come together at the same time and a whole lot of luck.

Just accumulate talent, that's really the only way.

Even this thread topic is off IMO...Michkov, or any single player, isn't going to be the entry point to winning a Cup. Not even drafting Bedard does that on its own IMO

 

[rahad]

What guarantee do you have that Michkov will ever come over? I agree he is elite in talent but no GM is taking a player with so many unknowns.

What guarantee you have the player drafted will not burst? Every single draft always have one top player bursting.

Michkov is a high risk/high reward type of player. Kinda like Lane Hutson. If we are lucky, we could hit 2 home run (Michkov, Hutson). I would love to have Will Smith, but he is kinda like another Nick Suzuki 2.0. We need to have one game breaking talent with the Habs.

 

[Tyson]

What guarantee you have the player drafted will not burst? Every single draft always have one top player bursting.

Michkov is a high risk/high reward type of player. Kinda like Lane Hutson. If we are lucky, we could hit 2 home run (Michkov, Hutson). I would love to have Will Smith, but he is kinda like another Nick Suzuki 2.0. We need to have one game breaking talent with the Habs.

I think Michkov is a sure fire star in the making. No one I know questions that. I still hope we stay clear.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Elite to me is a consistent 85+P player

At age 23 (24 in Aug) Suzuki wouldve/shouldve shown signs of that by now, which is not the case.... at all.

You dont win the Cup with 70 point players. You win with top players in the game..... Mackinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Kucherov, Hedman, Vasi, Point, Ovi, (Trotz), Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Keith, Kopitar, Doughty etc etc

The Bruins have proven this to be false. You can win with a balanced team

 

[Tyson]

The Bruins have proven this to be false. You can win with a balanced team

Carolina also has a balanced team with no true star.

 

[dinodebino]

If HuGo know that the deal for PLD is done prior to the draft (but completed there for the show), then I would absolutely draft Michkov. With PLD, Cole, Suzuki, Dach and Slaf in the top 6, they can surely wait. And once he crosses over, Mtl will be a contender.

There are too many pieces missing right now, specially at the back end. But once we half suck another season, then we will get all the pieces in place and then we will be a pretender 1-2 years before he joins us. And voilà!

 

[waitin425]

Hear me out.

Assuming the Habs draft 4-7th, so no: Bedard, no Fantili, no Carlsson.... and chances are (I think) the Habs arent getting a top 4 pick in 2024 as they get better.

The Habs ONLY chance at getting top elite talent is Michkov this summer. They have 2 very centres going forward in Suzuki and Dach, although unfortunately not elite. If they miss out on Michkov, theyd land either Smith or Benson most probably, and yes, they could be VERY good too, but a tier below Michkov's talent, imo.

Cup winners dont win with very good players, they win with ELITE talent (STL being the only exception really). EVEN if they land PLD, hes not "elite". Its another Suzuki with a big contract, which eventually leads to another playoff team that never contends with the big dogs.

If they pick 5th, pray he falls a spot. The Habs need MICHKOV.... I dont care if hes 2-3 years away from coming here. The Habs arent contending for at least 4 years anyway.

I'd go so far as saying if we don't land Bedard put get the second position, draft Michkov. Grab that other centre with PLD for Dvorak.

Suzuki, Dach, PLD, Beck, Evans all with the ability to play centre in the future for us. I'd be okay with resigning Tierney and Monahan as well.

 

[rahad]

I think Michkov is a sure fire star in the making. No one I know questions that. I still hope we stay clear.

This is why I hope we win the lottery and draft Bedard. No need for extra drama.

 

[dinodebino]

KHL fell off hard

Only want goalies

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You know your league is weak when Paquetteville is practically a .5 point-getter. Jordan Weal, top 50! Bring it on!

 

[Frank Drebin]

Don't think the Habs take him. The situation with Russia is too hot right now. Habs don't need to bring heat on themselves with that. I'm willing to bet 20$ that he's never a hab.

I'll take that bet - If hes available and habs pass on him ill e transfer you $20. If they pick him, you pay me. If he's already picked no one pays. - ASSUMING its not with the 10A pick

 

[junyab]

So you're saying you want to take me on the bet?

I'm telling you a fact.

 

[Bombshell11]

Hear me out.

Assuming the Habs draft 4-7th, so no: Bedard, no Fantili, no Carlsson.... and chances are (I think) the Habs arent getting a top 4 pick in 2024 as they get better.

The Habs ONLY chance at getting top elite talent is Michkov this summer. They have 2 very centres going forward in Suzuki and Dach, although unfortunately not elite. If they miss out on Michkov, theyd land either Smith or Benson most probably, and yes, they could be VERY good too, but a tier below Michkov's talent, imo.

Cup winners dont win with very good players, they win with ELITE talent (STL being the only exception really). EVEN if they land PLD, hes not "elite". Its another Suzuki with a big contract, which eventually leads to another playoff team that never contends with the big dogs.

If they pick 5th, pray he falls a spot. The Habs need MICHKOV.... I dont care if hes 2-3 years away from coming here. The Habs arent contending for at least 4 years anyway.

Nah man... we don't deserve good things here. We'll ruin them. If Michkov comes here, it will be a career killer.

Ovechkin would not have succeeded here.

Kovalev was traded away immediately after Gillett sold the club.

Its not happening.

Carlsson is the best bet for Montreal because he's got everything we want and needed.

Even Bedard would probably not work here because of the toxicity from the Media.

Carlsson, we must do everything we can to get Carlsson, trade up if we have to. He's a must for us.

 

[Colezuki]

As long as Chicago misses on Fantilli and Bedard I think they take Michkov tbh

 

[TomKosto]

Sign me up for Carlsson and Cristall as our picks, but I doubt Chicago goes D here. They're rebuilding in a draft with a bunch of potential superstar forwards. They're not skipping on both Carlsson and Michkov.

At this point I'm hoping for the following: Carlsson > Michkov > Benson to drop to us. I'd be really happy with any 3.

That would be a dream scenario, Carlsson + Cristall wow

 

[malton]

Michkov will be a star. Passing on him would be a massive oversight.

 

[larek]

1. we may be drafting 8 - 10 at this rate.

2. My gut still tells me Mishkov is going 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

But I would be over the moon if we got him. And I also don't care if he even comes in 5 years. Having Mishkov from 23 years old to 38 would be fine by me.

You must have indigestion

Mish won't be that high
Habs will draft 4-6

 

[JT3]

Our Pick (assuming 5-7):
Michkov (if he falls)
Reinbacher
Benson

Florida Pick (12-15)
Wood
Barlow
Moore
Honzek
Danielson
Leonard (if he's available, but I doubt it)

If Florida makes the playoffs I would have no problem trading the pick for Dubois, but that's looking a lot less likely now. There are just so many interesting forwards that will be available in that range I think we should probably hang on to it and either package something else for PLD or just wait a year.