2023 NHL Entry Draft

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le_sean

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Taking him with Florida’s pick is a bad idea for everyone involved and that was what I objected to.

It’s bad for the goalie, bad for the team and bad for the fans. There’s so much pressure on a goalie, especially here in Montreal and just adding a double heaping of expectations on top of it is just looking for trouble.
Goalies love pressure unless they are mental midgets like Andrew Raycroft. But playing for Montreal has brought out the best in goalies. It would be up to management to interview him and see what he’s like. But the talent is there.
 
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Barlow is a physical/energy guy, or just an energy guy like Lehkonen was were he's hard on the forecheck like a madman ?

Not really physical or an energy guy. Just a 200 foot player with good wheels and can put the puck in the net as a shooter, though I don't think he's an elite sniper.

He should be a 20-25 goal guy who plays on the PK and provides plus defensive value.
 

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I'd take Carlsson with ease but I'm resigned to the fact I'm alone in that.. just like I was one of very few who would have taken Cooley at 1.

You are not. I've seen a few here, myself included, who have Carlsson at 2. His overall game is nothing short of incredible and his offensive creativity is a tier above everyone else not named Bedard.

For 2nd-3rd rounds:

Kalan Lind (F) - Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
Coulson Pitre (C) - Flint Firebirds (OHL)
Ethan Miedema (LW) - Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)
Kasper Halttunen (RW) - HIFK (Liiga - Finland)
Nico Myatovic (LW) - Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL)
Jaden Lipinski (C) - Vancouver Giants (WHL)

Good calls. I don't see Lind as anything more than a bottom six forward but he is such a great shit disturber, I love the guy lol. Also Pitre, Myatovic and Lipinski are all seriously underrated by most.
 

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what's the word on Ethan Miedema, he's a a big boy that was traded from Spitfires to the Frontenacs. The #'s aren't impressive but I see he was a 4th OA pick in the O. He scored last night, goal starts at the 2:20 mark.

I know the Frontenacs have a number of players eligible for the draft but I was just focused on Mailloux so I'm not sure if I got much footage of Outwater or anyone else.
 

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what's the word on Ethan Miedema, he's a a big boy that was traded from Spitfires to the Frontenacs. The #'s aren't impressive but I see he was a 4th OA pick in the O. He scored last night, goal starts at the 2:20 mark.

I know the Frontenacs have a number of players eligible for the draft but I was just focused on Mailloux so I'm not sure if I got much footage of Outwater or anyone else.

Great shot and knack to find the angles to make it effective but subpar skating and lazy most of the time, doesn't care much when the puck isn't on his stick. Apparently has poor work ethic off the ice as well. DND for me
 
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So... what youre telling us is that, you don't really know anything that would set the players apart. You just used a list.
That’s exactly right. I have a thing called a life so a don’t have the time, skills or inclination to devote every working hour of my time to individually scout and rank every prospect and in the world. As a result, I rely on the research from a collection of scouts and analysts whose profession it is to do the aforementioned tasks. After they do all the heavy lifting, I’ll read and go over their comprehensive work to come to a conclusion of my own along with some casual watching of hockey info for fun.

What do you do??
 

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Finnish/Swedish prospects are dangerous.
Not really, its more the type of game played over there, most games end up with soccer league scores and its pretty hard for kids to blossom over there. Kemell will be similar to Caufield, a great goalscorer if he has someone to feed him the puck, something he doesnt have in Liiga. It was a stupid move by the Preds to send him back there, I would have played him in the AHL right away, Liiga is good to improve your skating period.
 

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That’s exactly right. I have a thing called a life so a don’t have the time, skills or inclination to devote every working hour of my time to individually scout and rank every prospect and in the world. As a result, I rely on the research from a collection of scouts and analysts whose profession it is to do the aforementioned tasks. After they do all the heavy lifting, I’ll read and go over their comprehensive work to come to a conclusion of my own along with some casual watching of hockey info for fun.

What do you do??
You're on a forum filled with hockey nerds who do in fact spend many hours watching prospects play. So why discredit they're observations if you just read rankigns and notes. Its totally fine to do just that, but you should dismiss their opinions based on that, its just disrespectful.
 
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That’s exactly right. I have a thing called a life so a don’t have the time, skills or inclination to devote every working hour of my time to individually scout and rank every prospect and in the world. As a result, I rely on the research from a collection of scouts and analysts whose profession it is to do the aforementioned tasks. After they do all the heavy lifting, I’ll read and go over their comprehensive work to come to a conclusion of my own along with some casual watching of hockey info for fun.

What do you do??
I watch hockey, I guess?
 
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Sterling Archer

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I watch hockey, I guess?
Oh, so you’re not a professional scout or anything like that? How many hours a week do you spend watching CHL, NCAA, Liga, etc. do watch per week? How many hours have you spent watching the top 100 prospects and by what metrics do you rank them? Is it expensive to carry all those specialized subscriptions or do you watch a lot of the games live?

You're on a forum filled with hockey nerds who do in fact spend many hours watching prospects play. So why discredit they're observations if you just read rankigns and notes. Its totally fine to do just that, but you should dismiss their opinions based on that, its just disrespectful.
I did no such thing. Where did I discredit anyone??? If anyone was discrediting anyone, it was Mrb1p to me:
So... what youre telling us is that, you don't really know anything that would set the players apart. You just used a list.
 
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Tell me more about your decision to rank Carlsson over Fantilli. Appreciate it
Stronger on his skates, tougher to knock off the puck, better hands in tight, better puck management. Fantilli is the better skater and possibly has the better shot at this point, but its hard to gauge since the scoring chances are pretty hard to get in the SHL, Carlsson has a good shot too, but I agree that he doesnt use it enough. Overall, thats pretty close, I like Carlsson better personally, but Ive no issue with people having Fantilli over him, thats really really close IMO.
 

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Stronger on his skates, tougher to knock off the puck, better hands in tight, better puck management. Fantilli is the better skater and possibly has the better shot at this point, but its hard to gauge since the scoring chances are pretty hard to get in the SHL, Carlsson has a good shot too, but I agree that he doesnt use it enough. Overall, thats pretty close, I like Carlsson better personally, but Ive no issue with people having Fantilli over him, thats really really close IMO.

At that rank, it's make it or break it. If we ever get a #2 pick, we have to make sure to pick the right player. Sometimes I watch Fantilli and I wonder if he's just physically just too much for the NCAA but does he possess the IQ to translate his offense and talent to the NHL. Carlsson, I just want to see a more dynamic player. Does Carlsson have the same or higher ceiling than Kirby Dach? We need an explosive player, that's why I think Fantilli might get the edge over Carlsson for me at this point, but they both are tremendous prospects with insane potential. But I'm a Michkov fan hahaha
 
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At that rank, it's make it or break it. If we ever get a #2 pick, we have to make sure to pick the right player. Sometimes I watch Fantilli and I wonder if he's just physically just too much for the NCAA but does he possess the IQ to translate his offense and talent to the NHL. Carlsson, I just want to see a more dynamic player. Does Carlsson have the same or higher ceiling than Kirby Dach? We need an explosive player, that's why I think Fantilli might get the edge over Carlsson for me at this point, but they both are tremendous prospects with insane potential. But I'm a Michkov fan hahaha
Carlsson is having one of the best seasons ever for a draft eligible prospect in the SHL. My comparison remains a Barkov like player. Fantilli's passing and shooting selections at times makes me cringe, he has some fantastic tools, but personally I prefer Carlsson's composure.
 

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Benson, then Smith.

TBH I'm tempted to take Smith just cause Fresh Prince might end up being the best nickname in the NHL.
Fresh prince of Montreal!

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