24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

Would they be able to make a trade for Sanheim? Seems like the perfect guy to pair with Seider.

Would not believe for a second Flyers would trade him.

But Ristolainen... that's interesting. He has playing very good lately, and should fix our RhD side.

Maybe Tarasenko could go to other way? They have russians there to mentor for.

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Johansson
Gustafsson - Ristolainen
(Holl)
Petry IR

Next year:

Johansson - Seider
Edvinsson - Ristolainen
Chiarot - ASP
(Gustafsson, Holl)

Just getting better and deeper.
 
I don't believe Tarasenko will be moved. He is very positive in the locker room, he is soft and washed up, but he's an intelligent player, we don't have much of that on the team. If someone should be moved it's Veleno and Rasmussen for right return obviously.
 
Blues are likely to be sellers, maybe we can pry Fowler away. We should have went harder to get him from Anaheim as he's likely to cost a 1st given his play with the Blues.
Fowler and Fabbro both seemed there for the taking, but maybe Stevie was suspicious of trading for them when their teams weren't offering them with a 2nd rounder.
Ya no. No way am I giving up a first round pick for Fowler.
 
For anybody who has watched the Blackhawks this year, is Ryan Donato worth a second round pick? That's my guess for the likely cost.

The pending UFA center has 37 points in 53 games, but he's only 46 percent on faceoffs and he turns 29 in April, so I don't know how many years he will push for versus how many he would be useful for.

No big loss if he's not the right fit. Just chatting about names in the news and hoping Detroit finds a way to add a good piece.
 
I don't believe Tarasenko will be moved. He is very positive in the locker room, he is soft and washed up, but he's an intelligent player, we don't have much of that on the team. If someone should be moved it's Veleno and Rasmussen for right return obviously.
I got nuthin for or against any of these 3 guys, but if it were up to me I'd rather see Tarasenko moved before Rasmountain and Joey V, but chances are he won't return as much as the 2 younger guys.
 
Right, but there was a time where we wouldnt have had to. Hes waited too long to fix the D this season. Trade deadline gets closer and all the bargain fixes are gone.
I’m cool with waiting for the offseason so long as it’s addressed. Last offseason was a waste outside signing Seider and Raymond. Our roster has needed tweaking for a while and somehow I keep watching Husso, veleno, motte, Rasmussen and stiffs like holl, petty and Tarasenko. Find another defensive piece or a second line Center and let the kids fill the rest of the slots, these worthless vets are a boat anchor.
 
Right, but there was a time where we wouldnt have had to. Hes waited too long to fix the D this season. Trade deadline gets closer and all the bargain fixes are gone.

If that is the cost to get a Fowler you don't make a move for him. He doesn't fit our window at all and is not as good as even 2 years ago. Why are so many on HFWings fine with getting older, don't fit our timeline blueliners and wanting to pay premium prices as well? If we make a move, it needs to be a bigger move to actually get someone in the 25-30 window who actually is good, not just ok. Paying 1sts for guys who used to be really good is how you stay poopy.
 
Would not believe for a second Flyers would trade him.

But Ristolainen... that's interesting. He has playing very good lately, and should fix our RhD side.

Maybe Tarasenko could go to other way? They have russians there to mentor for.

Chiarot - Seider
Edvinsson - Johansson
Gustafsson - Ristolainen
(Holl)
Petry IR

Next year:

Johansson - Seider
Edvinsson - Ristolainen
Chiarot - ASP
(Gustafsson, Holl)

Just getting better and deeper.
I'm not a big fan of ristolainen, seems like he's always on trade rumors . Hes got 2 more years at 5+ ,dont think flyers would want tarasenko and probably want a buium or some young kids

I'd rather target oleksiak who has only 1 more year and doubt anyone would move a 1st for him so maybe a 2nd and a 4th or somethin else

Next year if Asp is ready

Oleksiak seider
Edvinsson johansson
Chiarot pellikka

If not

Oleksiak seider
Edvinsson Johansson
Wallinder Chiarot

I believe wallinder has played the right side as well so they can flip or he can be the 7th dman and gustafsson goes on that pair. I'd get rid of holl and gus

If we really think chiarot seider can hold on another year

Chiarot seider
Edvinsson johansson
Oleksiak wallinder

Think theres lots of options ... regardless I think holl 100% needs to take a hike and I'd be trying to move on from gustafsson. Wallinder will be out of waiver options next season I believe so he'll be here unless hes in a trade for a bigger dman

Oleksiak for a 2nd and gustafsson? Either way yzerman has to get someone to improve this d core asap
 
I'm not a big fan of ristolainen, seems like he's always on trade rumors . Hes got 2 more years at 5+ ,dont think flyers would want tarasenko and probably want a buium or some young kids

I'd rather target oleksiak who has only 1 more year and doubt anyone would move a 1st for him so maybe a 2nd and a 4th or somethin else

Next year if Asp is ready

Oleksiak seider
Edvinsson johansson
Chiarot pellikka

If not

Oleksiak seider
Edvinsson Johansson
Wallinder Chiarot

I believe wallinder has played the right side as well so they can flip or he can be the 7th dman and gustafsson goes on that pair. I'd get rid of holl and gus

If we really think chiarot seider can hold on another year

Chiarot seider
Edvinsson johansson
Oleksiak wallinder

Think theres lots of options ... regardless I think holl 100% needs to take a hike and I'd be trying to move on from gustafsson. Wallinder will be out of waiver options next season I believe so he'll be here unless hes in a trade for a bigger dman

Oleksiak for a 2nd and gustafsson? Either way yzerman has to get someone to improve this d core asap
Wallinder looks really bad in GR these days. He has quickly become our most overrated prospect. You can tell from the prospect rankings that people aren't really watching him. Gustafsson, for all of his flaws, is a much better defensemen now and next year.
 
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Yeah I officially like Buium better. It's frustrating because he has all the tools, but he just looks passive way too much. Buium being a top 4 D might be a stretch, but I'm almost mentally pencilling him as a solid 3rd pair.
If Wally turns into anything its going to be at the last minute of waiver eligibility and probably suffering having him on the Wings roster for a year when he may not fully deserve it. He's a big toolbox guy, and was a big long haul prospect. I was hoping he'd take a bigger step this year and really grab that top line defender spot in GR but from most reviews it sounds like Buium has passed him. I would totally be ok dealing him with Aljo's emergence as a solid NHL option. He could have a Soderblom type emergence at some point, but his role is not as needed as Soders is on this iteration of the team.

The Wings are in a situation where they don't have to hold onto him and pray he develops because we don't have other D options. With Seider/Ed/Aljo/ASP we probably have our top 4 for the next decade. Even if we don't having a non home grown top 4 is not crazy. Like we could easily and probably show throw a wiley defensive vet in that group.
 
Yeah I officially like Buium better. It's frustrating because he has all the tools, but he just looks passive way too much. Buium being a top 4 D might be a stretch, but I'm almost mentally pencilling him as a solid 3rd pair.
I think he still fancies himself as a more offensive defensemen when he should really be committed at this stage to becoming an elite defensive defensemen (which his tools should be great for). It also bothers me that he can't pass the puck to save his life.
 
Wallinder looks really bad in GR these days. He has quickly become our most overrated prospect. You can tell from the prospect rankings that people aren't really watching him. Gustafsson, for all of his flaws, is a much better defensemen now and next year.
Then use him in a trade couldnt care less about gustafsson, he can run along with holl
 
Wallinder looks really bad in GR these days. He has quickly become our most overrated prospect. You can tell from the prospect rankings that people aren't really watching him. Gustafsson, for all of his flaws, is a much better defensemen now and next year.

Yeah I officially like Buium better. It's frustrating because he has all the tools, but he just looks passive way too much. Buium being a top 4 D might be a stretch, but I'm almost mentally pencilling him as a solid 3rd pair.
He had a pretty good second half to last season which got some hopes up for him, but prior to that I compared him to Kindl. Big, soft, but great size and tools so you hold out some hope. SHould've changed his game to be more defensive minded and meaner but not everyone can do that. WIth the young D Detroit has on the roster and coming, I hope they sell on Wallinder this deadline
 
Ah yes, a mid first round pick for a 33-year-old defensemen. What could go wrong.
That is what St. Louis will want after having given up a 2nd and seeing him thrive. Stevie should not give up a 1st, but he should have matched or bested the Blues' offer to begin with. Half the league will soon be trying to upgrade their D now. If you think there's a top 4 guy out there who will not cost (at least) a 1st, please educate me.
The time has passed to do this, if we upgrade our D before playoffs it will be costly.
 
If that is the cost to get a Fowler you don't make a move for him. He doesn't fit our window at all and is not as good as even 2 years ago. Why are so many on HFWings fine with getting older, don't fit our timeline blueliners and wanting to pay premium prices as well? If we make a move, it needs to be a bigger move to actually get someone in the 25-30 window who actually is good, not just ok. Paying 1sts for guys who used to be really good is how you stay poopy.
Paying at least a first is where we are now. I am not saying it shoud be done, I am saying that it could have been done cheaper earlier in the season but our GM opted not to go after Fowler or Fabbro.
 
If Wallinder is so suspect a prospect now that he's tradebait, he's not going to be worth much in a trade either. You might as well hang onto him until he's no longer waiver exempt and then keep him in GR or let him go back to SEL. Broberg among many other young D took a lot more time than expected. Jensen was dismissed as a prospect before turning himself into a useful NHLer. I'm not convinced yet about Buium either and would have no problem using the first-round pick this year on a LD.
 
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