2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Gravity]

If we pick at 7 and Carlsson is there, they better run the pick up to the podium. That's a bigtime steal.

0% chance that happens.

 

[Goldenhands]

My own top 15 at this point not taking in consideration the Russian factor:

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3- Michkov
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Moore
7-Dvorsky
8-Sandin-Pellikka
9-Smith
10-Barlow
11-Brindley
12-Benson
13-Yager
13-Ritchie
14-Heidt
15-Leonard

 

[Kojo]

My own top 15 at this point taking in consideration the Russian factor:

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3-Fantilli
4-Reinbacher
5-Moore
6-Dvorsky
7-Michkov
8-Sandin-Pellikka
9-Smith
10-Barlow
11-Brindley
12-Benson
13-Yager
13-Ritchie
14-Heidt
15-Leonard

I like this, Michkov falling into our lap at #7 would be amazing.

 

[Goldenhands]

I like this, Michkov falling into our lap at #7 would be amazing.

I rectified the list without considering the Russian factor since nobody knows where he will end up being picked.

 

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

Except Molson will pass on elite talent for politics and he’ll go to a team that’ll end up cup contenders in 3 years.

 

[HuGort]

Small for sure, but great skater, very high work rate, tenacious, high end IQ and strong playmaking skills. Kid doesnt get manhandled against older bigger players, he rolls on the hits and has very good strength for an undersized player.

Canadiens already small up front. He's not on my front burner. But if he slides into 2nd round I would take flyer on him.

 

[Rob Sense]

My own top 15 at this point not taking in consideration the Russian factor:

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3- Michkov
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Moore
7-Dvorsky
8-Sandin-Pellikka
9-Smith
10-Barlow
11-Brindley
12-Benson
13-Yager
13-Ritchie
14-Heidt
15-Leonard

I think the defensemen slide down a bit. I think Smith goes higher than 9 and Cristall goes in top 15. Hopefully one of those Ds are there with our Florida pick.

 

[morhilane]

I think the defensemen slide down a bit. I think Smith goes higher than 9 and Cristall goes in top 15. Hopefully one of those Ds are there with our Florida pick.

There is always a premium on dmen (and size). Also, teams drafting for needs...

 

[WinterLion]

My own top 15 at this point not taking in consideration the Russian factor:

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3- Michkov
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Moore
7-Dvorsky
8-Sandin-Pellikka
9-Smith
10-Barlow
11-Brindley
12-Benson
13-Yager
13-Ritchie
14-Heidt
15-Leonard

Nice list. We should be in a position to draft 2 of those guys. Are there any other guys who almost made the list or who you are keeping an eye on that are in the same tier?

 

[KevSkillz4]

Nice list. We should be in a position to draft 2 of those guys. Are there any other guys who almost made the list or who you are keeping an eye on that are in the same tier?

Eduard Sale is easily a guy who can make his list. Too talented to don't put him in mention honorable.

 

[SOLR]

SOLR has the belief that the 6 month difference between the two players is huge, ignoring the fact that Carlsson was better at 16/17 than Dvorsky is at 17/18. And Carlsson at 17/18 is on a completely different level.

LOL! Sorry but that's absolutely ridiculous. I spilled my cereal.

Carlsson has yet to prove he's a center...

That still doesn't make sense to me, you're saying that Dvorsky could get stronger, but I suggest that Carlsson could get smarter, in that situation Carlsson is the clear winner.

Harder to get smarter than stronger...that doesn't tend to vary too much after 15...

 

[RationalExpectations]

My own top 15 at this point not taking in consideration the Russian factor:

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3- Michkov
4-Fantilli
5-Reinbacher
6-Moore
7-Dvorsky
8-Sandin-Pellikka
9-Smith
10-Barlow
11-Brindley
12-Benson
13-Yager
13-Ritchie
14-Heidt
15-Leonard

I was very high on Dvorsky and still am but given his performances this year I d put him After ASP right now.

 

[le_sean]

LOL! Sorry but that's absolutely ridiculous. I spilled my cereal.

Carlsson has yet to prove he's a center...

What does being a centre have anything to do with the quality of players that they are? Even if Carlsson is not a centre, he’s better than Dvorsky. You’re entering into the “let’s draft KK over Tkachuk” type of argument.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Pretty crazy that Dvorsky has developed an elite hockey brain in a couple weeks.. cause I've never seen one piece of evidence, ever, that he's smarter than Carlsson on the ice.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Anyone know if/which sites do a bet on who gets drafted 1st overall/who gets 1st overall ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Anyone know if/which sites do a bet on who gets drafted 1st overall/who gets 1st overall ?

Sportsinteraction

But you'd have to put down millions to get a return on the Bedard odds.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Sportsinteraction

But you'd have to put down millions to get a return on the Bedard odds.

I got a few monopoly games kicking around.

It only goes by order, not by team who gets 1st overall ?

Like draft order,
1st Bedard
2nd Fantili
3rd Carlson
Etc ?

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

Gosh if we just can get a top 2 at least, we would be set at the dot for a longggg time. If we could get Barlow with the Florida pick after damn…

Carlsson Slaf Barlow Dach Suzuki Caufield

Bedard and not Carlsson? Dionkkkk

Bedard AND Carlsson


Guess they will have……

No chance in hell

 

[WeThreeKings]

I got a few monopoly games kicking around.

It only goes by order, not by team who gets 1st overall ?

Like draft order,
1st Bedard
2nd Fantili
3rd Carlson
Etc ?

It'd be like

1st Overall Pick
Connor Bedard Adam Fantilli
Leo Carlsson Matvei Michkov
Other

and have odds for each.

They usually do that for the first 3 picks. Then they'll do individual Canadian team picks.

And a lot of time it will be like

Who gets drafted first
Adam Fantilli
Leo Carlsson

Or
Leo Carlsson Draft Position
Under 2.5
over 2.5

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

It'd be like

1st Overall Pick
Connor Bedard Adam Fantilli
Leo Carlsson Matvei Michkov
Other

and have odds for each.

They usually do that for the first 3 picks. Then they'll do individual Canadian team picks.

And a lot of time it will be like

Who gets drafted first
Adam Fantilli
Leo Carlsson

Or
Leo Carlsson Draft Position
Under 2.5
over 2.5

Ah alright I was hoping they'd do one for who gets 1st overall, just the team.

 

[SOLR]

What does being a centre have anything to do with the quality of players that they are? Even if Carlsson is not a centre, he’s better than Dvorsky. You’re entering into the “let’s draft KK over Tkachuk” type of argument.

Because you are comparing offensive acuity alone and your argument completely disregards the value of the core skills of a center. Skills where Dvorsky is way ahead of Carlsson since he is 15 (not talking about the meaningful difference in age, given Dvorsky's late physical growth spurt, here).

"You’re entering into the “let’s draft KK over Tkachuk” type of argument."

Please...

If anything Carlsson is in KK's situation...

 

[le_sean]

If anything Carlsson is in KK's situation...

Yeah he’s someone that just jumped the rankings because of a strong U-18. That’s totally Carlsson.

You’re giving bonus points to a player because he’s more of a natural centre yet ignoring the fact that he’s worse at every basic facet of the game than the “non-centre”, who, by the way, is still a centre and is seen as such by basically the entire scouting community.

 

[Goldenhands]

Nice list. We should be in a position to draft 2 of those guys. Are there any other guys who almost made the list or who you are keeping an eye on that are in the same tier?

Salé, Crystall, Strbak and possibly Wood and Musty, but I have to watch more. Musty got injured lately, hopefully he is back soon. Danielson not a fan of his skating from my limited viewing.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Because you are comparing offensive acuity alone and your argument completely disregards the value of the core skills of a center. Skills where Dvorsky is way ahead of Carlsson since he is 15 (not talking about the meaningful difference in age, given Dvorsky's late physical growth spurt, here).

"You’re entering into the “let’s draft KK over Tkachuk” type of argument."

Please...

If anything Carlsson is in KK's situation...

Dvorsky's taking a beating in here because context is being neglected. Dvorsky at age 17 was matched up against opposing team's top lines at the WJC. He had to do this against both Canada and USA where they beat USA and took Canada to OT. He chewed up Team Canada centers in the face-off dot and spat them out. I really hope he gets to play in the U18. He'll torch it.

 

[Goldenhands]

Canadiens already small up front. He's not on my front burner. But if he slides into 2nd round I would take flyer on him.

I would grab him with a late 1st personally, hopefully we can get one at the TDL.