GDT: 2023 NHL Entry Draft Rounds 2-7 - 10AM ET, ESPN, ESPN+, SN

[Flybynite]

This draft has fallen into a glacial crawl.

 

[jj cale]

Nadeau, watch him a lot here in Penticton, talented little guy.

 

[SI90]

There’s gonna be nothing left to say at David Poile funeral

 

[William H Bonney]

Advanced analytics in the NHL are mostly trash, anyways.

Yep. The average fan doesn't understand how hard it is to generate quality structured data at scale. It's hard with apps that where you determine the structures that inform your data; NHL advanced stats are light-years behind that. The data quality is poor and highly subjective.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Axel Sandin Pellika sounds a lot like that Matsson character from Succession lol.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Yep. The average fan doesn't understand how hard it is to generate quality structured data at scale. It's hard with apps that where you determine the structures that inform your data; NHL advanced stats are light-years behind that. The data quality is poor and highly subjective.

hockey is also a very fluid game. Harder to not be subjective unlike baseball that is very rigid and structured to create those data points.

 

[William H Bonney]

Hopefully Nadeau can help revitalize the Maine Black Bears. They need to be a premier college program again.

 

[spfan]

Yeah they should. I also like Heidt a lot too.

I hope Colorado takes a swing with that pick from Montreal

 

[William H Bonney]

hockey is also a very fluid game. Harder to not be subjective unlike baseball that is very rigid and structured to create those data points.

Certainly won't stop the data snake oil salesmen, though.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Yep. The average fan doesn't understand how hard it is to generate quality structured data at scale. It's hard with apps that where you determine the structures that inform your data; NHL advanced stats are light-years behind that. The data quality is poor and highly subjective.

Yep. Hockey is just so much more random than any of the other major sports, so it will always be hard to get any good data, or build any really good data models because of it. It's just not a sport that lends itself to structured data and analytics.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Unfortunately true. The data quality in advanced stats is so poor and the analytical conclusions are usually worse.

Agree there. Very unreliable. There's a couple really bad ones. WAR and GSVA I find to be a complete waste of time. xG models also need to come a long way. That doesn't necessarily mean these stats hold no value but as a primary method of analysis they're simply not there.

In my mind until they microchip the pucks what's the point.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Avalanche steal one.

 

[William H Bonney]

Gulyayev looks to be the happiest person all night.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Habs biggest loser of the 1st round.

 

[Super Cake]

Some of you guys need to leave this site so that it stops taking so long to load things.

 

[spfan]

I hope Colorado takes a swing with that pick from Montreal

Well they did. Although not a great fit. Avs don't need more d-men. Makar, Byram, gonna be hard for Gulyayev to really get the role he needs.

I like the player, just not the fit.

 

[Super Cake]

I hope the Knights select future considerations

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Oops we ran into some problems!

 

[William H Bonney]

Agree there. Very unreliable. There's a couple really bad ones. WAR and GSVA I find to be a complete waste of time. xG models also need to come a long way. That doesn't necessarily mean these stats hold no value but as a primary method of analysis they're simply not there.

In my mind until they microchip the pucks what's the point.

Same. I have no qualms with folks pursuing advancements in the NHL's data approach, whether the logging or analyses. It's just the dishonesty about where we're at in the progression. We have access to a ton of new stats and most of them are trash. The quality of new stats will improve but it's baby steps and yet people like Chayka pretend like they've cracked a code with their shit algorithms.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Oops we ran into some problems!

Woopsy daisies!

 

[spfan]

The draft ends how the draft was overall. Low upside, certainty over high upside swings.

 

[SI90]

Tonight I’m gonna make love to my wife and I’m gonna whisper in her ear “ I just want to thank and congratulate David Poile”

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Woopsy daisies!

You can say that agayne.

 

[William H Bonney]

Tonight I’m gonna make love to my wife and I’m gonna whisper in her ear “ I just want to thank and congratulate David Poile”

Don't forget to drop in a data comparable on your performance courtesy of Meghan Chayka. And then ask her when you're going pro.

 

[Mike C]

Habs biggest loser of the 1st round.

That's before they even made a pick.

Price back in assistance program yet?