2023 NHL Entry Draft - Kraken Edition

[seakraken]

I think we're best served to just wait and see what's up there at #20.
I'm also not that interested in giving up a 2nd rounder to move up a couple of spots.

According to McKenzie scouts he talked to told him that this draft is at least 50 - 60 deep in legit NHL prospects.
Meaning guys that should clearly have a path to the NHL.

Outside of the top 5, the draft in every sport is a veritable crap shoot.
gimme mo picks its mo betta!

 

[RainyCityHockey]

I’m curious though how the dollars work though, would we run out of draft rookie money if we have 3 2nd round picks?

Draft rookie money?

You just draft the guys and get their rights for a couple of years.
At that point you decide when and if you sign them to ELC's.

BTW: Here's the video version of McKenzie's rankings.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I think we're best served to just wait and see what's up there at #20.
I'm also not that interested in giving up a 2nd rounder to move up a couple of spots.

According to McKenzie scouts he talked to told him that this draft is at least 50 - 60 deep in legit NHL prospects.
Meaning guys that should clearly have a path to the NHL.

Yeah. I woudn't really want to spend draft capital to move up a few spots in the 1st round unless the scouting group absolutely loves a player. If anything, bundle up 2 of our 2nd rounders to move into the mid-late 30s.

 

[Gniwder]

Yeah. I woudn't really want to spend draft capital to move up a few spots in the 1st round unless the scouting group absolutely loves a player. If anything, bundle up 2 of our 2nd rounders to move into the mid-late 30s.

Only the Yotes (38) would be dumb enough to trade down in this draft.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Only the Yotes (38) would be dumb enough to trade down in this draft.

I think a team low on draft capital would do something like that. That or a team just wanting to rebuild.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

If I'm GMFrancis I'd be making all the 10 choices the Kraken have! They should be able to get 4-5 good players maybe even a great player outta the 2023 draft! If the Forward they like(Wood,Honzek) is not there they go with a RD-man Willander,then maybe a Forward latter and defense again with the 52nd and 57th pick! My Mouth waters when I think of the Kraken getting Forwards with Size and more D-men especially 2 RD-men!

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

If I'm GMFrancis I'd be making all the 10 choices the Kraken have! They should be able to get 4-5 good players maybe even a great player outta the 2023 draft! If the Forward they like(Wood,Honzek) is not there they go with a RD-man Willander,then maybe a Forward latter and defense again with the 52nd and 57th pick! My Mouth waters when I think of the Kraken getting Forwards with Size and more D-men especially 2 RD-men!

I would rather go for quality over quantity. I like our scouting group enough to be ok either way but moving up can be worth it if there is a player you really value.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Only the Yotes (38) would be dumb enough to trade down in this draft.

They actually aren't with Bill Armstrong as their GM.

I think you could try and target the Red Wings who have picks 41, 42 and 43.
I also don't think that a team in the 33 - 39 reange would be interested in trading down from those spots, while I'm not sure if the Caps(#40) might be interested in increasing their draft capital.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

I would rather go for quality over quantity. I like our scouting group enough to be ok either way but moving up can be worth it if there is a player you really value.

Yep,I guess you have to weigh everything. Can't wait for June 28th-29th to get here fast enough

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Craig Button's final mock draft.


He's got Calum Ritchie at #20 to the Kraken.

Also, The Athletics 2023 NHL Draft concensious big board.

NHL Draft consensus big board: After Connor Bedard, who will be selected?

How do the draft lists of Corey Pronman, Scott Wheeler, Bob McKenzie, Chris Peters and Craig Button compare?

theathletic.com

They also have Calum Ritchie at #20.

 

[The Marquis]

Even though you get the better players high in the draft, it’s more fun to read or watch these mock drafts or rankings when you’re in the middle of the first. More variation.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

The Hockey News has us drafting Gabe Perreault at #20.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/seattle-kraken/archive/thn-mock-draft-no-20-pick

I wouldn't mind that but I'm not sure he'll be around at #20.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

The Hockey News has us drafting Gabe Perreault at #20.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/seattle-kraken/archive/thn-mock-draft-no-20-pick

I wouldn't mind that but I'm not sure he'll be around at #20.

The funny thing is that we can say that for a lot of people we have been mocked at 20. I have seen us landing Perreault, Musty, Simashev, Honzek, But, Barlow, etc. across multiple mocks.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

The funny thing is that we can say that for a lot of people we have been mocked at 20. I have seen us landing Perreault, Musty, Simashev, Honzek, But, Barlow, etc. across multiple mocks.

The thing is the Kraken will probably have their choice of all these players so whomever they like best I guess

 

[Gniwder]

They actually aren't with Bill Armstrong as their GM.

I think you could try and target the Red Wings who have picks 41, 42 and 43.
I also don't think that a team in the 33 - 39 reange would be interested in trading down from those spots, while I'm not sure if the Caps(#40) might be interested in increasing their draft capital.

Doubt the Wings trade down, at this point in their rebuild they are looking for quality not quantity. Stevie traded up twice in the 2021 draft.

Having 3 picks in a row is pretty convenient, I'm pretty sure they're doing a lot of research into the kids they expect to be available at that range, and pick 3 of them. The team is more intent into getting the kid they want than maximizing draft picks.

 

[majormajor]

If the Kraken draft Musty, Simashev, or But at #20 I'm going to whip out one of @RainyCityHockey 's Jean Claude Van Damme gifs.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

The funny thing is that we can say that for a lot of people we have been mocked at 20. I have seen us landing Perreault, Musty, Simashev, Honzek, But, Barlow, etc. across multiple mocks.

Yep.
I think it's going to be fun on Wednesday and we might have someone slip to us that no one expected to be there at #20.
Everything from #10 on down seems to be all over the place in those mock drafts.

I just hope we can grab a guy that will actually play for the Kraken and become a solid contributor.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I'd really like Seattle to land one of the top D in the 1st round. It's the one weak area in our prospect pool. I can see Seattle trying to trade up a few spots if it's looking like there's a run on D in the teens.

Of course if there is a run on D, maybe that means a can't-miss forward is dropping to them.

 

[majormajor]

I'd really like Seattle to land one of the top D in the 1st round. It's the one weak area in our prospect pool. I can see Seattle trying to trade up a few spots if it's looking like there's a run on D in the teens.

Of course if there is a run on D, maybe that means a can't-miss forward is dropping to them.

It won't be much of a run before they're all gone, I don't think the good ones (Simashev, Willander, and Reinbacher in my book) make it anywhere near 20. ASP and Gulyayev are smallish and I don't think high ceiling either, I would pass on them at 20.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

It won't be much of a run before they're all gone, I don't think the good ones (Simashev, Willander, and Reinbacher in my book) make it anywhere near 20. ASP and Gulyayev are smallish and I don't think high ceiling either, I would pass on them at 20.

I agree that some teams are most definitely going to grab D-men before they should given the lack of truly high-end D in this draft. I also 100% agree with @RainyCityHockey that everything from 10 down is all over the place. Heck, I think things start looking pretty murky past the top-8.

 

[Gniwder]

The Hockey News has us drafting Gabe Perreault at #20.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/seattle-kraken/archive/thn-mock-draft-no-20-pick

I wouldn't mind that but I'm not sure he'll be around at #20.

Elite hockey IQ but subpar skating that shows on every video.

Considering his dad was an NHL player, I'm sure he's gotten lots of help with his skating already. I doubt it gets any better. Then again, his dad had the same issues and did OK.

At #20, every prospect is going to have at least one flaw, but subpar skating always worries me.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Elite hockey IQ but subpar skating that shows on every video.

Considering his dad was an NHL player, I'm sure he's gotten lots of help with his skating already. I doubt it gets any better. Then again, his dad had the same issues and did OK.

At #20, every prospect is going to have at least one flaw, but subpar skating always worries me.

I understand that and have my doubts as well.

Though, on the other hand, skating's something that can actually be worked on with those 18 year old kids and we also have someone like Jess Campbell who started out as a skating coach.

 

[The Marquis]

I understand that and have my doubts as well.

Though, on the other hand, skating's something that can actually be worked on with those 18 year old kids and we also have someone like Jess Campbell who started out as a skating coach.

Pretty much this. Skating at 18 can improve. Also, my cat rules. He can’t skate, but he rules.

 

[Gniwder]

I understand that and have my doubts as well.

Though, on the other hand, skating's something that can actually be worked on with those 18 year old kids and we also have someone like Jess Campbell who started out as a skating coach.

His dad played in the NHL, you don't think he's had a lot of private skate coaching already? He's not some poor kid from BFE Canada.

Plus if you watch him, he's solid on his skates, just really slow. Not a technique issue, some people just can't move their legs fast.

But high IQ, knows where to go, can shoot. Bare minimum he'll wind up being a PP specialist. Not really sure he fits into the fast paced Kraken lineup, but I think he goes before 20 anyways. Hard to predict which kids will be available, so I'm not predicting or even hoping for any prospect in particular. I think Francis and his team have done well the first 2 drafts, gonna just give him the benefit of the doubt and go along with his picks this time and not bother to do much research. Plus the farther down the draft the team picks, the more prospects you need to watch. Not worth the time for something I can't control anyways.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

His dad played in the NHL, you don't think he's had a lot of private skate coaching already? He's not some poor kid from BFE Canada.

Plus if you watch him, he's solid on his skates, just really slow. Not a technique issue, some people just can't move their legs fast.

But high IQ, knows where to go, can shoot. Bare minimum he'll wind up being a PP specialist. Not really sure he fits into the fast paced Kraken lineup, but I think he goes before 20 anyways. Hard to predict which kids will be available, so I'm not predicting or even hoping for any prospect in particular. I think Francis and his team have done well the first 2 drafts, gonna just give him the benefit of the doubt and go along with his picks this time and not bother to do much research. Plus the farther down the draft the team picks, the more prospects you need to watch. Not worth the time for something I can't control anyways.

What "poor kid" is actually playing hockey?

It's an incredibly expensive sport that automatically rules out a certain percentage of people anyways.

Still, even with his dad being a former NHL pro, you can still improve your skating at age 18 which has been shown over and over again

To me you look if the prospect has at least one thing he's really good at and then you decide if the other things are OK(or you think you can work on) to you or not.
And Perreault can put the puck in the net which is a really nice aspect to his game.

But like you've said, at #20 none of us(armchair scouts) knows which prospects will be around and there's even a good chance the team just takes someone completely different because that who they have on top of their list when the Kraken are on the clock.