Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Soundwave]

He might. What’s his next contract going to look like riding the pine here? If another playoff team has interest it could happen.

They could probably just straight up tell him he won't play in the playoffs unless there are injuries, that would probably get him to waive.

Though honestly this is a real shitty way to treat a player. He's even improving defensively and has been producing points from the bottom 6 of late without much help. Poor guy should've just signed in Toronto or something when he had the chance in the summer.

 

[FlameChampion]

I don’t really get how Saad fits unless Skinner and the Oilers are moving on from one another.

Are we going to start waiving guys like Kapanen to make him fit? (If we don’t move Skinner)

 

[MessierII]

They could probably just straight up tell him he won't play in the playoffs unless there are injuries, that would probably get him to waive.

Though honestly this is a real shitty way to treat a player. He's even improving defensively and has been producing points from the bottom 6 of late without much help. Poor guy should've just signed in Toronto or something when he had the chance in the summer.

For whatever reason knobloch just won’t budge on this guy.

 

[Soundwave]

For whatever reason knobloch just won’t budge on this guy.

At this point it feels like Knob is actively trying to embarrass the guy into waiving his NMC. Scores a big goal in a 1 goal game and gets healthy scratched immediately, lol.

 

[McDoused]

I don’t really get how Saad fits unless Skinner and the Oilers are moving on from one another.

Are we going to start waiving guys like Kapanen to make him fit? (If we don’t move Skinner)

Obviously not a permanent solution, but we could put Philp back in the AHL temporarily until Skinner is moved.

 

[5 14 6 1]

I agree that they could add something - but both are big questionmarks and, based on their most recent sample of NHL play, neither is a good player right now.

Depth doesn't hurt, but they still have to acquire bigger fishes. These additions can't come at the expense of making moves for actual tangible upgrades in positions of need. If Klingberg and Saad represent their major additions in a year that should be all-in, it's a major failure. Banking on cripples and past-prime players to rebound to former glory, refusing to pay the assets for tangible upgrades should not be the strategy for a team that is desperate to win now.

This is the last season that McDrai are both still in their 20s, not to mention their salaries going significantly up after this season. How about just once pay what you need to win now???

They have gone all in before and likely will this year. They traded for Ekholm, traded for Henrique. They aren't anywhere close to done this year lol. Two solid gambles on vets who have proven it in the past on dirt cheap deals costing zero assets is smart asset management.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I agree that they could add something - but both are big questionmarks and, based on their most recent sample of NHL play, neither is a good player right now.

Depth doesn't hurt, but they still have to acquire bigger fishes. These additions can't come at the expense of making moves for actual tangible upgrades in positions of need. If Klingberg and Saad represent their major additions in a year that should be all-in, it's a major failure. Banking on cripples and past-prime players to rebound to former glory, refusing to pay the assets for tangible upgrades should not be the strategy for a team that is desperate to win now.

This is the last season that McDrai are both still in their 20s, not to mention their salaries going significantly up after this season. How about just once pay what you need to win now???

Seeing what Klingberg has before the deadline isn't a bad thing. If he sucks then we aim higher. Value contracts are huge when trying to win with a top heavy roster.

 

[Spawn]

But he's scored 20+ goals in every regular season except this year and one more year before when the season ended early.

IMO we've got enough aging offense only wingers struggling as is. We don't have room for another in my opinion.

If I'm wrong and he signs here and he's great than awesome. I just don't have much faith in it.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Already a crowded fwd group and that’s before Kane returns. Gotta think a Saad signing is them basically telling Skinner he’s not going to be playing much anymore in hopes he’ll waive and they can get him to a better situation with another playoff team. Either that or mutual contract termination if he’s got other playoff teams that would sign him for a million or something.

 

[McTonyBrar]

 

[Stud Muffin]

I'll be honest, I've never really watched the player. Is Saad physical?

No he’s not, 7 hits for him this year, according to money puck’s stats.

Like others have said, I think this only works as a Skinner replacement. But that NMC is bad.

 

[Oilhawks]

I mean, I could see it, but I wonder why he wouldn't sign somewhere where he'd get guaranteed top 6 time. He already has two Cup rings, so that can't be a huge motivation. Skinner must be moving

 

[Homesick]

Saad is a lateral move with Skinner. Saad had 26 goals last year in 82 games vs Skinner with 24 in 74 games. The only difference this year is that Saad isn't producing as much as Skinner(gulp)with more ice time

 

[iCanada]

That's as blatant a Stauffer hint as you'll get, lol.

I'd be surprised at this point if he isn't coming here.

 

[MessierII]

Saad is a lateral move with Skinner. Saad had 26 goals last year in 82 games vs Skinner with 24 in 74 games. The only difference this year is that Saad isn't producing as much as Skinner(gulp)with more ice time

The way they score is a little different though.

 

[McTonyBrar]

That's as blatant a Stauffer hint as you'll get, lol.

I'd be surprised at this point if he isn't coming here.

He had a whole opening segment today on just Brandon Saad

Saad is a lateral move with Skinner. Saad had 26 goals last year in 82 games vs Skinner with 24 in 74 games. The only difference this year is that Saad isn't producing as much as Skinner(gulp)with more ice time

Difference in ways of scoring though. Saad attacks the net. Skinner plays on perimeter. Saad is a complimentary winger who is not a driver and plays good with a puck carrier. Skinner is a puck carrier.

I think Saad would work better with McDavid or Leon

 

[McDoused]

That's as blatant a Stauffer hint as you'll get, lol.

I'd be surprised at this point if he isn't coming here.

Bob says that guys want to play here and they never used to almost every day.

The part where he says "including the guy who was waived today" is new. I'm sure he's interested in coming here especially because of the Bowman connection. I just dont know if he will get the money or opportunity here.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Bob says that guys want to play here and they never used to almost every day.

The part where he says "including the guy who was waived today" is new. I'm sure he's interested in coming here especially because of the Bowman connection. I just dont know if he will get the money or opportunity here.

To be honest, I don’t know how he would not get an opportunity here. He has 7 goals. Which left winger on this team has more than 7 goals except for Perry/RNH/Hyman?

Skinner has 7 or 6?

 

[Shathar]

Agreed. Andy Strickland also said there is anger from the Saad camp against St. Louis. Maybe that’s another reason why he wanted to leave

I don't believe in nincompoop stuff like Karma.. But, hello Karma.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don’t get the issue. Can’t we just waive Kapanen?

Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Podkolzin - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Saad - Henrique - Brown
Janmark - Philp - Skinner/Perry

 

[foshizzle]

Parayko is an interesting player in which the advanced stats don't tell the whole story. His actual "defensive" metrics, such as defending the rush, in zone defending, shot suppression, are all really good. His transition game and puck moving aren't great, he has a tendency to be like Nurse and hold on to the puck a bit too long when skating it up the ice. BUT he's got a bomb of a shot and scoring a ton this year. He's also more than half the year with 3 washed up players in Suter, and Leddy- his numbers have improved with Fowler. He's a real good top 4 Dman right now, but the question probably would be, do the Oilers want to spend 6 mill on him until 2030? Will his body hold up?

But the stats show he is good at none of those things you mentioned. Like his shots for % is terrible so he isn’t preventing shots not is he defending the rush. Like he isn’t good at all. I respectfully disagree-

 

[Oilers88]

I don’t get the issue. Can’t we just waive Kapanen?

Nuge - McDavid - Hyman
Podkolzin - Draisaitl - Arvidsson
Saad - Henrique - Brown
Janmark - Philp - Skinner/Perry

Stauffer mentioned that they were practicing with Janmark at center and Philp on the LW, and seemed to be hinting they could try that formation with Saad coming in for Philp. Things get more interesting when E. Kane is healthy come playoff time- we have a LOT of bodies up front now.

 

[Fourier]

Stauffer mentioned that they were practicing with Janmark at center and Philp on the LW, and seemed to be hinting they could try that formation with Saad coming in for Philp. Things get more interesting when E. Kane is healthy come playoff time- we have a LOT of bodies up front now.

In the playoffs though you don't have a limit on your roster to worry about and you will no doubt have injuries so depth is a big plus. Kane for example may not be ready for game 1.

 

[Fourier]

I think Hill, his cup win, and his current level of play is a perfect example of why the Oilers should be looking for an upgrade for their backup spot. Goalies are voodoo. Hill was Vegas' 2nd or 3rd option that season after Broissoit and Thompson. But due to injuries he found himself in net and ran with it and was elite for a couple months and Vegas won a cup.

Using your analogy of Skinner or Hill being a roll of the dice. I don't get why Oiler fans are so opposed to the idea of adding another chance to roll should you get a 2 or 3 with Skinner again come playoff time.

Part of the issue is what sort of inconsistency you get out of a guy. Campbell for example was inconsistent in the sense that he would have streaks where he was unbeatable followed by streaks where he was unplayable. Skinner is inconsistent in a different way. With Skinner you just never know when he will have one of those games where he kills the team's chances.

If you have two guys like Campbell and you can predictably ride the hot guy until he flips you might be in better shape. But if you have two Skinners every game is still a possible coin flip even if it is slightly weighted to the good.

I readily admit that I know very little about how to actually identify the right netminder for the right team in terms of style and skill. It is a position I just don't understand. But what I do know is the importance of consistency for this team. When their goalie puts up a .900 or better they are 24-3-1 this year. That is why I like the QS% stat. I'd rather have a guy put up two .910 games than a 1.000 followed by an .850.

Hellebucyk this year has a .775 QS%. With that sort of consistency the Oilers would be nearly impossible to beat. Now can he duplicate that when it counts? Similarly with Thompson in Washington. He has a .741 QS%. One thing I have like about Pickard is that he has been very even keeled this year. He is not spectacular but he has seldom not given the team a chance to win. His QS% is .706 and this is reflected in his win-loss record of 13-4-0. Of course the difference between Pickard and the other two is that his load is managed carefully and he plays mostly against low end teams. But as a backup he has done the job of giving the team a chance to win when he plays. If they had to go with Pickard for longer stretches I'd be worried. But if you need him to play one game to change the tide he has done the job.

All of this is why personally I want to see them try to get a truly better #1 than Skinner sometime in the sense of a guy who is simply more reliable game in and game out. I just don't see a lot of obvious options for that right now since those guys are not that common.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Agreed. Andy Strickland also said there is anger from the Saad camp against St. Louis. Maybe that’s another reason why he wanted to leave

You mean the quote where Strickland said there was no animosity towards the blues because it’s a business?

Do you feel the need to misquote everything possible.