2023 NHL Draft situation

[Teemu]

k a r e l awooooo

 

[clydesdale line]

If Philly can at least get a loser point, I'll consider this an outstanding tank night for the Hawks. Sharks are up 6-1 against Anaheim so they're gonna win.

 

[clydesdale line]

Philly does get a loser point.

 

[Styles]

Ducks are truly an unstoppable force.

 

[Behn Wilson]

Ducks are truly an unstoppable force.

They are the Houston Texans of the NHL.

 

[Northernhawk]

Draft order as of Dec 10th

1.Anaheim
2.CHICAGO
3.San Jose
4.Columbus
5.Arizona
6.Ottawa
7.Philadelphia
8.St. Louis
9.Buffalo
10.Vancouver
11.Washington
12.Calgary
13.Montreal
14.Minnesota
15.Montreal(FLA)
16.NYRangers

So in rounds 1-3 the Blackhawks would be selecting 2nd, 25th(TB), 34th, 57th(TB), 66th and 90th(DAL)...

Adam Fantilli,c, Michigan...we all have read about
Otto Stenberg,f, Frolunda...I attached a write up about him from THN

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Another great night for the Hawks. I'm starting to think the Hawks will clearly be 2nd worst team after Kane and Toews are traded. They might even be there now.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Senators pick up two more points. Nashville lowkey bad as is the rest of the west.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

If last draft and this draft were combined, what would your top 10 look like?

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If last draft and this draft were combined, what would your top 10 look like?

I don’t have a specific top 10, but I don’t think you’d see too many 2022 guys in the top 10. Slafkovsky is way too raw and easily could have used a season overseas, and I like a lot of others just didn’t think Wright was that good.

2023 draft likely sweeps the top 5

 

[Kevin Musto]

If last draft and this draft were combined, what would your top 10 look like?

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantili
3. Juraj Slafkovsky
4. David Jiricek
5. Leo Carlsson
6. Matvei Michkov
7. Shane Wright
8. Simon Nemec
9. Dalibor Dvorsky
10. Brayden Yager

But at this point in time, I have limited viewings on this year's guys.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

1. Connor Bedard
2. Adam Fantili
3. Juraj Slafkovsky
4. David Jiricek
5. Leo Carlsson
6. Matvei Michkov
7. Shane Wright
8. Simon Nemec
9. Dalibor Dvorsky
10. Brayden Yager

But at this point in time, I have limited viewings on this year's guys.

Matvei at 6 is bold.

 

[10YearsAfter]

Carlsson at 3 - strongly over Slafkovsky

 

[Kevin Musto]

Matvei at 6 is bold.

As of now he's 4 on my 2023 board.

None of it is set in stone.

But I haven't fallen in love with him, the way others have.

He reminds me of Patrick Kane. Not prime Patrick Kane, or prospect Kane. Rather, Kane currently. Just a very raw version of current Kane.

 

[Northernhawk]

So including last years draft the Hawks will have 20 picks in the first three rounds thru the 2024 draft!!! Instead of 9... wow! 20 picks! And that’s before they’ve even dealt their pending UFAs from their current roster...Kane Toews Domi Athanasiou JJohnson Khaira Stalock Tinordi and Robinson...

Kevin Korchinski
Frank Nazar
Sam Rinzel
2023 CHI 1st
2023 TB cond.1st
2024 CHI 1st
2024 TB cond.1st
Paul Ludwinski
Ryan Greene
2023 CHI 2nd
2023 TB 2nd
2024 CHI 2nd
2024 VAN 2nd
Gavin Hayes
Samuel Savoie
Aidan Thompson
2023 CHI 3rd
2023 DAL 3rd
2024 CHI 3rd
2024 OTT 3rd

Compare that to our last stretch of bad Blackhawk hockey 2004-2006 draft period

2004
*Brent Seabrook
Cam Barker
Jack Skille
*Jonathan Toews
*Patrick Kane
*Corey Crawford
Michal Barinka
*Dave Bolland
*Bryan Bickell
Ryan Garlock
Jakub Sindel
Michael Blunden
Dan Bertram
Igor Makarov
Simon Danis-Pepin
Billy Sweatt
Akim Aliu
Adam Berti
Evan Brophey
Tony Lagerstrom
Maxime Tanguay
Josh Unice
first three round picks drafted...

And that’s not to mention comparing the 10 picks in rounds 4-7(which Hawks actually have less picks before the UFA selling off)

Where the previous Hawks drafted Dustin Byfuglien, Lasse Kukkonen, Troy Brouwer, Jake Dowell and Niklas Hjalmarsson!

 

[LavalPhantom]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

 

[Northernhawk]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

Mike Milbury...except he’d draft a defencemen in this years draft

 

[Sarava]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

Trade Bedard? Are we being crazy here?

 

[LavalPhantom]

Trade Bedard? Are we being crazy here?

I’m not advocating for that. Just throwing it out there to see what the value back would need to be to entertain the idea.

 

[jls24]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

I'd strongly consider it.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

I guess it all depends on the thought of fantilli and how much separates him and bedard. But I can’t imagine any Gm being given the green light to do that deal.

 

[Sarava]

I’m not advocating for that. Just throwing it out there to see what the value back would need to be to entertain the idea.

Gotcha. I think you would need far more than an unprotected 24 pick to even ponder the thought for more than 3 seconds.

We have to be careful of over-hyping up the next guy - in this case Fantili. Remember when many people thought Eichel could or would be as good as McDavid?

Also, don't hold Edmonton's lack of success with McDavid against Bedard. If you put a generational superstar in Chicago, players will flock to Chicago to play with him. This isn't the cold north of Edmonton.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Gotcha. I think you would need far more than an unprotected 24 pick to even ponder the thought for more than 3 seconds.

We have to be careful of over-hyping up the next guy - in this case Fantili. Remember when many people thought Eichel could or would be as good as McDavid?

Also, don't hold Edmonton's lack of success with McDavid against Bedard. If you put a generational superstar in Chicago, players will flock to Chicago to play with him. This isn't the cold north of Edmonton.

It’s also that Edmonton’s last two GMs are beyond incompetent. They were/are unable to make trades to improve the team and the drafting has been laughably bad when not picking top 5.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Would anyone trade the first overall for the second overall and the other team’s 2024 unprotected first?

You’d get Fantili and hopefully two top 5 picks in 2024. Would that be enough or is that a dumb idea?

Absolutely not.

Fantilli is fantastic, and if the Hawks are drafting at #2 I'll be thrilled to have him.

But if the Hawks are picking at #1 there's absolutely nothing I'd trade it for.

 

[Putt Pirate]

Only way I would make that trade is 2024 and 25 1st and 2nds. Maybe. Bedard is on the McDavid/Crosby level which is irreplaceable.