Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Potential Selection Discussion

[D00bis]

Auston Matthews

Guess he forgot about that scrub lol

 

[Space umpire]

This used to be a really great thread in pasts years that used to be stickied at the top. Wonder if we can get that going again? Posters like @stickty111, @Morgs and @SeaOfBlue (among others) did a really great job of updating on players that may be in the Leafs range for the upcoming draft.

Of course, we may see some of these picks traded over the next few months (and we can see some added at the draft as we saw with this past draft) but definitely something fun and interesting to discuss and follow.

Leafs Current Picks
1st Rounder
3rd Rounder
3rd Rounder (from Ottawa - Murray trade)
5th Rounder
6th Rounder

The recent Mock Draft from mynhldraft.com (updated January 16th) has the Leafs selecting 26th overall and choosing Oliver Bonk (son of Radek Bonk).

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The Mock Draft has a big centre and a big goalie sandwiching our pick.

Hopefully we can get some discussion going on who people would like to see selected with our picks.

Who is (mynhldraft)?
I know everyone has an opinion but with Soderblom and Commesso on the way the Hawks might draft a goalie in the later rounds but I doubt with all the holes they have they spend a 1st on one.
Strammel would be a steal in that slot for Toronto. A big solid center seemingly would be ready when Tavares is leaving.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Every year the Leafs look good in reg season. Every year they lose first round, one year to Mont and one to Columbus. The Leafs need to look ahead to the no Dubas possibilities. We don’t have picks to waste anymore.

Ummm we have gotten incredible value on a majority of the picks we have had since Dubas took over. I wouldn't say we've wasted picks

 

[LeafChief]

Who is (mynhldraft)?
I know everyone has an opinion but with Soderblom and Commesso on the way the Hawks might draft a goalie in the later rounds but I doubt with all the holes they have they spend a 1st on one.
Strammel would be a steal in that slot for Toronto. A big solid center seemingly would be ready when Tavares is leaving.

Its more of just an aggregator rather than a predictor. They are good for updating the selection order every few weeks and aggregate the scouts lists.

Its not anything official but a good way to see who is ranked where vs which teams are picking where.

 

[hockeynorth]

For me the closest player to Musty as of today is Arthur Kaliyev, who I had as a top-10 pick. I remember hearing similar issues with him with effort/defense/etc, and he'd be a top-10 pick today and improving. A guy who's a dual-threat offensively, great hands, and a good skater? Yeah, he's the exact kind of guy I'd LOVE to take in the late 1st.

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having watched a lot of Musty, he scares me

 

[Judas Tavares]

Guess he forgot about that scrub lol

Lol it is easy to forget when he was a slam dunk.

But I do agree with that poster, it normally feels like our system is light on centres but especially ones destined for the top 6. I understand you need to fill out the team with double the amount of wingers, but centres are more important and it is way easier to convert a C to W than the other way around.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Here's mine through a fan mock draft site.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Ummm we have gotten incredible value on a majority of the picks we have had since Dubas took over. I wouldn't say we've wasted picks

Go look at how many picks we gave up for zero playoff rounds won. Tavares will need propping up soon.

 

[kb]

Go look at how many picks we gave up for zero playoff rounds won. Tavares will need propping up soon.

You mean less than most other contenders?

 

[darrylsittler27]

You mean less than most other contenders?

If you can’t see we need some young cheap elite talent then you don’t see it. None of those rentals ever work out. They get here too late and never gel.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Here's mine through a fan mock draft site.

Those 3rd round selections are major yikes. I am sure you did it based on what was ranked around there but they are both undersized D+1's (especially Cote) who are putting up subpar production for D+1's.

And it is not even like they have any standout qualities to make up for anything either. They are just a pair of prospects who should never be on the draft radar.

 

[LeafChief]

Go look at how many picks we gave up for zero playoff rounds won. Tavares will need propping up soon.

We've heard this each of the last three seasons and here we are. Anyways, there are other threads for you to throw a fit in.

This one is about NHL prospects for the 2023 draft. Lets stay on topic.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

get the XS jersey ready

 

[Menzinger]

We've dealt our first more times to navigate the cap than we have to buy players. While I don't think we will need to do that again, we can't rule it out. Murray for example might be moved on from after this year and if he epically collapses in the 2nd half and has a horrid playoff, who knows?

I think that's a fairly low probability at this point. So far Murray's 11-5-2 while maintaining a 9.11 sv%.

The odds are higher he's going to be one of the Leafs goalies next season than the team needs to pay to dump him imo

 

[francis246]

Auston Matthews

Sorry I wasn’t including Matthews , but yes lmao

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Those 3rd round selections are major yikes. I am sure you did it based on what was ranked around there but they are both undersized D+1's (especially Cote) who are putting up subpar production for D+1's.

And it is not even like they have any standout qualities to make up for anything either. They are just a pair of prospects who should never be on the draft radar.

I got an A for all my draft picks, so I'm assuming the website knows more than you. You have to understand after the first two rounds their should be no problems taking a player in their second year of eligibility.

 

[Morgs]

I got an A for all my draft picks, so I'm assuming the website knows more than you. You have to understand after the first two rounds their should be no problems taking a player in their second year of eligibility.

There is plenty wrong with taking players in their second year of eligibility that early in the draft.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I can’t say who but Dubas must now pivot in philosophy. His small but skilled drafting is backfiring as his picks get injured and devalue. Amirov plus Robertson are both worth less that their own draft picks right now as other wiser Gms outsmarted Dubas. Hockey is hard game that gets brutal in the playoffs where you have to win ugly. Amirov and Robertson are currently worth zero and would likely get injured anyway. Stats don’t show how players who are injured have zero value as injuries give an excuse to the failed strategy.

 

[Fogelhund]

I can’t say who but Dubas must now pivot in philosophy. His small but skilled drafting is backfiring as his picks get injured and devalue. Amirov plus Robertson are both worth less that their own draft picks right now as other wiser Gms outsmarted Dubas. Hockey is hard game that gets brutal in the playoffs where you have to win ugly. Amirov and Robertson are currently worth zero and would likely get injured anyway. Stats don’t show how players who are injured have zero value as injuries give an excuse to the failed strategy.

What a terrible, frankly disgusting take, lumping in Amirov in this discussion. Dude has cancer, and you use it as an example of a failed strategy. Brutal.

 

[Dekes For Days]

His small but skilled drafting is backfiring as his picks get injured and devalue. Amirov

Amirov wasn't particularly small, but more importantly, did you just suggest that Amirov got cancer because of his size...?

plus Robertson are both worth less that their own draft picks

Robertson still holds more value than the draft pick used to select him.

 

[LeafChief]

I can’t say who but Dubas must now pivot in philosophy. His small but skilled drafting is backfiring as his picks get injured and devalue. Amirov plus Robertson are both worth less that their own draft picks right now as other wiser Gms outsmarted Dubas. Hockey is hard game that gets brutal in the playoffs where you have to win ugly. Amirov and Robertson are currently worth zero and would likely get injured anyway. Stats don’t show how players who are injured have zero value as injuries give an excuse to the failed strategy.

Lmao. What a ridiculous post. Amirov has cancer. This is disgusting.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

I can’t say who but Dubas must now pivot in philosophy. His small but skilled drafting is backfiring as his picks get injured and devalue. Amirov plus Robertson are both worth less that their own draft picks right now as other wiser Gms outsmarted Dubas. Hockey is hard game that gets brutal in the playoffs where you have to win ugly. Amirov and Robertson are currently worth zero and would likely get injured anyway. Stats don’t show how players who are injured have zero value as injuries give an excuse to the failed strategy.

Only thing worthless, is this post.

 

[darrylsittler27]

What a terrible, frankly disgusting take, lumping in Amirov in this discussion. Dude has cancer, and you use it as an example of a failed strategy. Brutal.

I was pointing out he is small and like Robertson would likely get injured. That is my take the playoffs get ugly and size helps.

 

[Fogelhund]

I was pointing out he is small and like Robertson would likely get injured. That is my take the playoffs get ugly and size helps.

Likely get injured? That's silliness too... Amirov is 6'.... Size doesn't automatically mean more frequent injuries as well.

Size helps, but talent is more important. Your take is poor in any case.

 

[kb]

I was pointing out he is small and like Robertson would likely get injured. That is my take the playoffs get ugly and size helps.

So 6'1" and 187 as a 19 year old is small now?

Keep digging. It's a brutal take.