HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[Cubebrick]

i see words like, "lazy," "floater" when people describe him. doesn't even backcheck.

i'm very nervous.

I've been vocal about him giving up on way too many plays in my USDP viewings throughout the season but to be fair it's a part of his game that can be improved upon, especially in the NCAA. My worries is that he won't be a C at the NHL level if this side of his game does not evolve, and I am not sure that he could work his offensive magic as much as a winger. But he seems aware of his deficiencies and there was progression though as seen at the U18, so it's encouraging at least.

He's not my favorite at 5, but I wouldn't be mad if he's the Habs pick. He's still one hell of a player and we've got great hockey minds to help him out.

Anyways. Kournianos is losing the plot on the mainboard

There's something funny about a dude, who's had Seider 18th and Heiskanen 13th (I'll throw in Ty Smith 8th over Quinn Hughes) in their respective year, being so hellbent on rejecting the possibility that Reinbacher could be the BPA after the top 4 and bitching about any kind of hype around him.

The only thing that matters is how good Reinbacher is, and he is very good.

What truly matters are public rankings and sick dangles, man.

 

[BenchBrawl]

i see words like, "lazy," "floater" when people describe him. doesn't even backcheck.

i'm very nervous.

That's not the reason I'm nervous at all.

I'm nervous because I don't know whether his actual strengths will translate, nevermind his weaknesses.

 

[SlafySZN]

I've been vocal about him giving up on way too many plays in my USDP viewings throughout the season but to be fair it's a part of his game that can be improved upon, especially in the NCAA. My worries is that he won't be a C at the NHL level if this side of his game does not evolve, and I am not sure that he could work his offensive magic as much as a winger. But he seems aware of his deficiencies and there was progression though as seen at the U18, so it's encouraging at least.

He's not my favorite at 5, but I wouldn't be mad if he's the Habs pick. He's still one hell of a player and we've got great hockey minds to help him out.


There's something funny about a dude, who's had Seider 18th and Heiskanen 13th (I'll throw in Ty Smith 8th over Quinn Hughes) in their respective year, being so hellbent on rejecting the possibility that Reinbacher could be the BPA after the top 4 and bitching about any kind of hype around him.


What truly matters are public rankings and sick dangles, man.

A poll from NHL scouts, not public rankings has him at 10. He was never seen like a top 5 in this draft.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

A poll from NHL scouts, not public rankings has him at 10. He was never seen like a top 5 in this draft.

There is only one poll that I am aware of that has NHL scouts and that is McKenzie's that had Smith at #6 and that was the midterm ranking well before he surpassed Mathews record and was voted MVP at the U18's.

Am I missing something, was there an illuminati poll?

Seriously though buddy, am I unaware of another such poll.

 

[SlafySZN]

There is only one poll that I am aware of that has NHL scouts and that is McKenzie's that had Smith at #6 and that was the midterm ranking well before he surpassed Mathews record and was voted MVP at the U18's.

Am I missing something, was there an illuminati poll?

Seriously though buddy, am I unaware of another such poll.

Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking - TSN.ca

There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.

www.tsn.ca

Reinbacher is 10th.

He was 20th in the midterm ranking at the end of january. He is not seen like a top 5 pick or the BPA after the ‘’top 4’’

 

[Cubebrick]

A poll from NHL scouts, not public rankings has him at 10. He was never seen like a top 5 in this draft.

You're arguing semantics. Polls leads to rankings that are published on a public site.

Also:

- 2011: Larsson (2nd) over Huberdeau & Landeskog.

- 2012: Yakupov (1st) & Griffin Reinhart (4th) over literally everyone else.

- 2013: Drouin (3rd) over Barkov.

- 2014: Reinhart (2nd) & Bennett (3rd) over Draisaitl.

- 2015: Strome (5th), Zacha (6th) & Crouse (7th) over Barzal & Rantanen.

- 2016: Puljujarvi (3rd) over Tkachuk & Dubois, and Alex Nylander (7th) over Keller & Sergachev.

- 2017*: Patrick (2nd) over Heiskanen & Makar, Mittelstadt (6th), Glass (8th), Rasmussen (9th) & Tippett (10th) over Necas and Suzuki.

- 2018: Zadina (4th) & KK (5th) over Quinn Hughes & Dobson.

- 2019: A bit early to tell, but Kakko (2nd) & Turcotte (4th) over a bunch of others doesn't look thus far. Also Caufield...

- 2020**: Way too early to tell, but Byfield (3rd) & Perfetti (5th) over Raymond & Sanderson doesn't look too good thus far.

- 2021 and 2022 also is way too early to tell. You can see how things are slowly shaping up although a lot can still change.

* Patrick's career have been plagued with injuries but it was already a huge red flag back then.

** Not mentioning Lafreniere since almost everyone and their mother had him 1st.

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All polls from NHL scouts. I just listed at least one big ass top 5 blunder on McKenzie's list for every single one of the last 10 draft years, barring the last 2 drafts since it's still way too early to come to a conclusion for these years yet.

Let's completely disregard a prospect who is not considered a top 5 pick on The Bobfather's list because NHL scouts are by all evidence never wrong and should always be trusted no matter what.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking - TSN.ca

There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.

www.tsn.ca

Reinbacher is 10th.

He was 20th in the midterm ranking at the end of january. He is not seen like a top 5 pick or the BPA after the ‘’top 4’’

My bad I didn't open the entire link.....thought you were talking about Smith.

Yeah, I agree that Reinbacher is not a top ten talent but being a RHD, all bets are off. I really do not want the Habs to take him at 5 OA.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

You're arguing semantics. Polls leads to rankings that are published on a public site.

Also:

- 2011: Larsson (2nd) over Huberdeau & Landeskog.

- 2012: Yakupov (1st) & Griffin Reinhart (4th) over literally everyone else.

- 2013: Drouin (3rd) over Barkov.

- 2014: Reinhart (2nd) & Bennett (3rd) over Draisaitl.

- 2015: Strome (5th), Zacha (6th) & Crouse (7th) over Barzal & Rantanen.

- 2016: Puljujarvi (3rd) over Tkachuk & Dubois, and Alex Nylander (7th) over Keller & Sergachev.

- 2017*: Patrick (2nd) over Heiskanen & Makar, Mittelstadt (6th), Glass (8th), Rasmussen (9th) & Tippett (10th) over Necas and Suzuki.

- 2018: Zadina (4th) & KK (5th) over Quinn Hughes & Dobson.

- 2019: A bit early to tell, but Kakko (2nd) & Turcotte (4th) over a bunch of others doesn't look thus far. Also Caufield...

- 2020**: Way too early to tell, but Byfield (3rd) & Perfetti (5th) over Raymond & Sanderson doesn't look too good thus far.

- 2021 and 2022 also is way too early to tell. You can see how things are slowly shaping up although a lot can still change.

* Patrick's career have been plagued with injuries but it was already a huge red flag back then.

** Not mentioning Lafreniere since almost everyone and their mother had him 1st.

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All polls from NHL scouts. I just listed at least one big ass top 5 blunder on McKenzie's list for every single one of the last 10 draft years, barring the last 2 drafts since it's still way too early to come to a conclusion for these years yet.

Let's completely disregard a prospect who is not considered a top 5 pick on The Bobfather's list because NHL scouts are by all evidence never wrong and should always be trusted no matter what.

All lists are going to have a lot of misses but Bob's has been the best of the bunch for a while now. That being said it is not very accurate and there is zero percent chance that scouts are being entirely honest.

This is a very weak draft for dmen and Reinbacher imo would be a mid 1st round pick if there were a couple of stud dmen available. He is benefitting from the hype surrounding him being the best dman available.

 

[KevSkillz4]

I just dreaming when I sleep yesterday night... Columbus take Will Smith, San Jose take Matvei Michkov.... Leo Carlsson on the board... Montreal take Nate Danielson.

 

[xposbrad]

Any chance we could package Anderson+ to get another mid round pick? There are going to be a bunch of guys in the 10-20 range that still look like they could have 1st if not 2nd line potential.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking - TSN.ca

There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.

www.tsn.ca

Reinbacher is 10th.

He was 20th in the midterm ranking at the end of january. He is not seen like a top 5 pick or the BPA after the ‘’top 4’’

Pretty sure Bob has 1 more ranking to come out.

Any chance we could package Anderson+ to get another mid round pick? There are going to be a bunch of guys in the 10-20 range that still look like they could have 1st if not 2nd line potential.

It's possible and likely the only way the Habs get that 3rd 1st rounder.

Unless they take back a real bad contract.

 

[Frank JT]

What do you think of Simashev? 6'4'', LHD, 200pds. Mobile. Good defensively.

 

[Gustave]

Still more than a month to go before this madness?

 

[Egresch]

What do you think of Simashev? 6'4'', LHD, 200pds. Mobile. Good defensively.

With Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Engstrom, Hutson and Struble there is absolutely no need to look for LHD.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Still more than a month to go before this madness?

This is the Habs board, the madness never ends here

 

[Lockin17]

PNHLe Rankings
PNHLe measures NHL point potential in a prospect's prime.
It is based on historical values & adjusts for age, production, league and position to normalize a player's future value. * Michkov's value doesn't include his games w/ SKA, which would decrease his value

 

[Frank JT]

With Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, Engstrom, Hutson and Struble there is absolutely no need to look for LHD.

Yeak I know. But, can we talk of every prospects on this boards?

 

[Gustave]

This is the Habs board, the madness never ends here

Here I was thinking that after the lottery things would go smoothly... Nope, worst spot possible for the drama came to us like a gift

 

[Kennerback]

Litterally can’t wriggle out of it. 1 to 3, I believe there’s no f*** up possible by the Habs although I bet fans would be tearing each other apart over Fantilli and Carlsson. And 6 and 7 we would be fighting over the second level guys. We can sleep knowing the Habs will pick the best of the rest.

Unfortunately, 5OA is a runaway train heading to a massive collision with Michkov. For better or for worse.

 

[Mrb1p]

Who on the Habs can do what Benson does?

Ill wait.

 

[NotProkofievian]

There's something funny about a dude, who's had Seider 18th and Heiskanen 13th (I'll throw in Ty Smith 8th over Quinn Hughes) in their respective year, being so hellbent on rejecting the possibility that Reinbacher could be the BPA after the top 4 and bitching about any kind of hype around him.

Ilya Kvochko 21 --> Undrafted

 

[NotProkofievian]

 

[Jack Skellington]

Me watching Smith highlights:
We should absolutely draft this guy

Me watching Smith full games:
We should absolutely not draft this guy

 

[SlafySZN]

Me watching Smith highlights:
We should absolutely draft this guy

Me watching Smith full games:
We should absolutely not draft this guy

Man, you guys are hard on a barely 18 years old kid lol

They all have things to get better at

 

[Jack Skellington]

Man, you guys are hard on a barely 18 years old kid lol

They all have things to get better at

Lol thats not that harsh I just don't like the way he plays. He could still be good. Also one thing no one mentions, he already does play wing 75% of the time in his own end.