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Honestly, Reinbacher at 5 and Cristall at 29. I’d be so down for that!Andrew Cristall.
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HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2
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Yeah I mean if the team evaluates our forwards and believes that say Dach and Slaf will become first line players and one of Farrell/Roy/Mesar/Beck hits and becomes a 1st-line player as well then maybe going Reinbacher isn't that bad.
This is also a fair point, but I also feel that it's easier to find a top line D (ex: Hutson last year) than a top line F later in the draft.
At the same time, I doubt you find Reinbacher late in the draft where as maybe one of like Wood/Sale/Cristall/Yager fall and actually become top-line forwards.
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I do think Engstrom will play LD though in the NHL.
Yes we only need 3 RD and I agree that the 2RD his ok with Barron but we don't have that 1RD or 1st Dmen even if I love Guhle and that's as much important then a #1 C.
Or it could smell Seider at the place of Zegras what was a good thing for Detroit
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And the 2017 Preds have won more series then the 2017-2023 Maple Leafs... Defence is the most important thing in the playoff
WeThreeKings
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Here it is... I'm done
Name | Position | League |
Connor Bedard | C | WHL |
Leo Carlsson | C | SHL |
Matvei Michkov | RW | KHL |
Adam Fantilli | C | NCAA |
Will Smith | C | USHL |
David Reinbacher | RHD | NL |
Zach Benson | LW | WHL |
Matthew Wood | C | NCAA |
Ryan Leonard | C | USHL |
Dalibor Dvorsky | C | Allsvenskan |
Brayden Yager | C | WHL |
Mikhail Gulyayev | LHD | KHL |
Oliver Moore | C | USHL |
Michael Hrabal | G | USHL |
Eduard Sale | LW | Cze |
Quentin Musty | LW | OHL |
Nate Danielson | C | WHL |
Tom Willander | RHD | SHL |
Axel Sandin-Pellikka | RHD | SHL |
Daniil But | LW | KHL |
Samuel Honzek | C | WHL |
Riley Heidt | LW | WHL |
Jacob Fowler | G | USHL |
Otto Stenberg | C | SHL |
Gabe Perreault | LW | USHL |
Carson Bjarnason | G | WHL |
Colby Barlow | LW | OHL |
Lukas Dragicevic | RHD | WHL |
Gracyn Sawchyn | C | WHL |
Andrew Cristall | LW | WHL |
Calum Ritchie | C | OHL |
Nick Lardis | RW | OHL |
Theo Lindstein | LHD | SHL |
David Edstrom | C | SHL |
Koehn Ziemmer | RW | WHL |
Oskar Fisker Molgaard | LW | SHL |
Dmitri Simashev | LD | KHL |
Matthew Mania | RHD | OHL |
Aram Minnetian | RHD | USHL |
Aydar Suniev | C | BCHL |
Beau Akey | RHD | OHL |
Carson Rehkopf | LW | OHL |
Alexander Rykov | LW | VHL |
Bradley Nadeau | C | BCHL |
Anton Wahlberg | C | SHL |
Etienne Morin | LHD | QMJHL |
Adam Gajan | G | USHL |
Felix Nilsson | C | SHL |
Kasper Halttunen | LW | Liiga |
Oliver Bonk | RHD | OHL |
Carey Terrance | C | OHL |
Ethan Gauthier | RW | QMJHL |
Alex Ciernik | LW | Allsvenskan |
Noah Dower-Nilsson | C | J20 |
Gavin Brindley | RW | NCAA |
Kalan Lind | LW | WHL |
Charlie Stramel | RW | NCAA |
William Whitelaw | C | USHL |
Lenni Haamenaho | RW | Liiga |
Luca Cagnoni | LHD | WHL |
Caden Price | LHD | WHL |
Arttu Karki | LHD | U20 |
Tanner Molendyk | LHD | WHL |
Ryan Conmy | RW | USHL |
Felix Unger Sorum | RW | J20 |
Danny Nelson | LW | USHL |
Tanner Ludtke | LW | USHL |
Coulson Pitre | C | OHL |
Mathieu Cataford | RW | QMJHL |
Damian Clara | G | Allsvenskan |
Maxim Strbak | RHD | USHL |
Hunter Brzustewicz | RHD | OHL |
Roman Kantserov | LW | MHL |
Jayden Perron | RW | USHL |
Connor Levis | C | WHL |
Trey Augustine | G | USHL |
Jordan Tourigny | RHD | QMJHL |
Petter Vesterheim | C | Allsvenskan |
Jesse Kiiskinen | RW | U20 |
Emil Jarventie | LW | Mestis |
Noel Nordh | LW | SHL |
Juraj Pekarcik | LW | Svk |
Cameron Allen | RHD | OHL |
Timur Mukhanov | C | VHL |
Jesse Nurmi | LW | Liiga |
Aiden Fink | RW | AJHL |
Andrei Loshko | RW | QMJHL |
Jaden Lipinski | RW | WHL |
Luca Pinelli | C | OHL |
Jakub Stancl | LW | SHL |
Joey Willis | C | OHL |
Zeb Forsfjall | C | SHL |
Tuomas Uronen | RW | Liiga |
Cam Squires | RW | QMJHL |
Tyler Peddle | C | QMJHL |
Andrew Strathmann | LHD | USHL |
Denver Barkey | C | OHL |
Tommasso De Luca | C | WHL |
Samuel Urban | G | SVK-2 |
Andrew Gibson | RHD | OHL |
Gavin Mccarthy | RHD | USHL |
Jake Fisher | LW | USHS |
Martin Misiak | C | USHL |
Nico Myatovic | LW | WHL |
Rainers Rullers | C | Latvia |
Adam Dybal | G | CzeU20 |
Jakub Dvorak | LHD | Cze |
Leo Eperjese | LD | USHL |
Easton Cowan | C | OHL |
Rasmus Kumpulainen | LW | Mestis |
Vadim Schreiner | C | AlpsHL |
Yegor Klimovich | LW | MHL |
Beckett Hendrickson | LW | USHL |
Ethan Miedema | LW | OHL |
Scott Ratzlaff | G | WHL |
Griffin Erdman | C | USHL |
Teodor Forssander | LW | J20 |
Tomas Milic | G | WHL |
Jan Sprynar | RW | QMJHL |
Nikita Susuyev | LW | MHL |
Gavyn Thoreson | LW | USHL |
Ignat Lutfullin | RW | MHL |
Luke Coughlin | LHD | QMJHL |
Valentin Zhugin | LW | OHL |
Carter Sotheran | RHD | WHL |
Ondrej Molnar | LW | OHL |
Daniel Alexander Jencko | C | J20 |
Sean McGurn | C | OHL |
Hoyt Stanley | RHD | BCHL |
Jayson Shaugabay | C | USHL |
Lukas Matecha | G | Cze-2 |
Brad Gardiner | C | OHL |
Ian Scherzer | C | J20 |
Calle Karlsson | C | J20 |
Adam Zidlicky | RW | OHL |
Dominik Petr | C | U20 |
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They might be interested by Reinbacher but all year the habs were around 6-7-8 in the draft, i think it’s pretty normal they looked at him and were interested.
they might still be but now they have the 5th pick so their targets maybe changed accordingly.
they might still be but now they have the 5th pick so their targets maybe changed accordingly.
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Suzuki, Caufield and Dubois will be PPG playing on the same line and PP unit.
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And how about Colorado? or Tampa? Why are you hand-picking the only team that hasn't had a successful playoffs where as most teams that win cups have really good offense.
And even if you nitpick the Leafs. If you watched them play... except for Holl, it wasn't the defense that made them lose. They just weren't able to score enough goals. And it's been their problem for the longest time.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
What should they do, add a 5th PPG forward?
Tampa and Colorado are examples of teams that had a really good defense to supplement their offense.
Tampa had Hedman, Cernak, McDonagh and Sergachev.
Colorado had Makar, Manson, Toews, and Byram.
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Meh, if it comes to that, I'd rather take Benson.Andrew Cristall.
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IMO they're missing complementary forwards like what Lehkonen did for Colorado last season. Funnily enough, if they would have protected Jared McCann instead of Holl, they're probably in much better shape.
Leafs just have no depth outside of the top 4 (maybe Knies helps).
Btw, I'm not saying we should emulate the Leafs. Reinbacher is an amazing piece to have and he'd be the perfect fit for Hutson. I'm just saying I'm worried that our offense will dry if we can't find a stud offensive player somewhere else and I think that's a valid thought.
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Have you seen Tampa this year with Hedman injured ? Not the same team and Cernak injury didn't help either.
They had a REALLY good top 4 with Hedman, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev
Colorado wasn't winning anything before Makar arrived.
And they had a REALLY good top 4 them too
Some teams have made it to the Final and even win the cup without a star forward but I don't remember a team winning it without a solid top 4 (Maybe CAR in 2006)
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There's no top pairing material on that list, except for Guhle.
The rest are aspiring second pairing or third pairing guys.
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We need offence ffs.
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Don’t think it will happen. I mean, can’t be sure but…
It says they watched and liked him this year but the habs were around 6-7-8 for the draft before they started losing more near the end of the season. Now that they have the 5th pick their targets might have changed for the pick.
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Your Brindley ranking really stands out as surprising to me, I've got him top 15. Certainly better than Mesar last year.
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Let's say we get Dubois... Cole, Suzi, Dubois, Dach, Slaf should all be bonafide top 6 players who can be a part of a successful top line. One of Roy, Farrell, Heineman, Mesar, Kidney will become a top 6 player at least.
Our offensive forward depth is not as thin as we think. It's just like our defensive depth... lots of solid talent, but no superstar or #1 D.
If Reinbacher is a future #1 defensemen, we need him just as much as we need a Will Smith.
Our offensive forward depth is not as thin as we think. It's just like our defensive depth... lots of solid talent, but no superstar or #1 D.
If Reinbacher is a future #1 defensemen, we need him just as much as we need a Will Smith.
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Honestly we lack high end in almost every department.
I don't blame you for claiming a forward, but we aren't exactly overflowing with talent at D.
Lane Hutson fans would say he's Adam Fox 2.0, but I don't see him becoming a big minutes D if he even makes the NHL as a regular.
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1- We have 8-9 credible D prospects for 6 spots and 6 forward prospects for 9 spots. One prospect per slot should be the aim of a rebuild; we're there with Ds. Of course, you want to upgrade quality - we're just clearly behind with forwards both in quantity and quality.
2- It's not low, Smith, Dvorsky are right where we draft and they are high-quality prospects.
Michkov is the exception who is for sure not a center in the top 6. Next year looks like this for Ds.
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1- But most of them are LD and we have as much need for a Top 1 Forward then a top 1 Dmen
2- I don't think Smith is gonna be a center in the NHL and I prefer a futur 1st pair Dmen then a Top 6 C
Lane Hutson will be better than Adam Fox
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I think both are true. Most teams have multiple star forwards and have a really good D core (the exception for both are St-Louis - no star forwards and Pitts in 2007 - no good defensemen).
Ideally we want both and the argument I'm trying to make is that I prefer having more offense and lacking defense vs having really good defense at the expense of offense.
Also FWIW, I don't think Reinbacher is a #1. I think he becomes a really good defensively sound #2 like Guhle does. Great skaters, has size, contributes offensively, but is not the dynamic star defenseman that you would ideally want.
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You need to have both for sure with a good goalie and heavy forechecker
Pittsburgh had Gonchar and young Letang with solid big defensive Dmen in Scuderi/Gill/Orpik
I personally prefer having that solid top 4.
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