HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[ReHabs]

You mean something like Vegas GK with only one PPG player in Eichel and no other elite talent? I would love to have that.

Let’s get the PPG player first, and then the blue collar grinders. Vegas is a good team, with aggressive a management, and are highly ambitious for success — the Habs are a bad team, with historically passive conservative management, and highly ineffective at team building.

Vegas traded for a post-surgery Eichel, the Habs are hemming and hawing over whether to draft Michkov if available. Not comparable!

 

[SOLR]

Let’s get the PPG player first, and then the blue collar grinders. Vegas is a good team, with aggressive a management, and are highly ambitious for success — the Habs are a bad team, with historically passive conservative management, and highly ineffective at team building.

Vegas traded for a post-surgery Eichel, the Habs are hemming and hawing over whether to draft Michkov if available. Not comparable!

I agree with you, that being said, all the Michkov arguments are pure speculation.

 

[Jaynki]

I agree with you, that being said, all the Michkov arguments are pure speculation.

There are none against really. Let's ignore the fact that Michkov dream is to play in the NHL and that he will be present at the draft. His contract is not even a risk, its inconfortable at worst.

The simple opportunity to draft such a talent, given how rare it is and how lucky you have to be when such a talent present itself, justify in itself every risk possible attached to him.

 

[skidcells]

I know Hrabal is the talk of the town but I think I would prefer they waited a bit until the 2nd/3rd round pick and took Jacob Fowler. I don't see meaningful difference between the two aside from size and Fowler at 6'2 is still decently sized.

 

[SOLR]

There are none against really. Let's ignore the fact that Michkov dream is to play in the NHL and that he will be present at the draft. His contract is not even a risk, its inconfortable at worst.

The simple opportunity to draft such a talent, given how rare it is and how lucky you have to be when such a talent present itself, justify in itself every risk possible attached to him.

This is why I believe we won't have the choice to draft him OR there is a Leafs trade where Colombus or the Sharks are involved. Hell, I would not even be so surprised if the Hawks pick Michkov first (10-20% probability), I think the GMs are blowing a lot of smoke about him in the hope he slides to them.

 

[le_sean]

Aren't you tired of drafting boring 200ft lunch-pail high intangibles players who cannot score regularly and cannot lead a team?

Leonard is more than that. You’re making him sound like RHP.

 

[Jaynki]

Leonard is more than that. You’re making him sound like RHP.

He is more than that absolutely. But i think the point he is trying to make is that we should aim for higher offensive talent when there will obviously be one or two available at 5.

 

[waitin425]

Goaltending and defense are so underrated in this league.

Grab the bpa at 5, hopefully michkov....but if we keep the Florida pick, grab the best tendy. Not even kidding. Just look at Edmonton and Toronto

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So, Dragicevic with Florida's pick ?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I know Hrabal is the talk of the town but I think I would prefer they waited a bit until the 2nd/3rd round pick and took Jacob Fowler. I don't see meaningful difference between the two aside from size and Fowler at 6'2 is still decently sized.

Isn't Fowler the best goalie in the draft? That's what I've seen mentioned.

Personally I don't see goalie as a huge need in the prospect pool. The Habs have been addressing that position appropriately the last few drafts and there are some interesting prospects there. I would be fine with using another mid-to-late pick on a goalie.

I hope the Habs take a high end forward at 5 and draft some dmen later. I think some of the USNTDP dmen will be good value at where they are projected.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Goaltending and defense are so underrated in this league.

Grab the bpa at 5, hopefully michkov....but if we keep the Florida pick, grab the best tendy. Not even kidding. Just look at Edmonton and Toronto

Defense, yes.

Goaltending yes and no. You don't need a Price, or high end goalie, but you need a goalie who can make saves.

If you have the forwards who can score and the d/system that keeps the majority shots as ones that are seen, or cleared after the save, then you just need a decent goalie.

Bobrovski - underdrafted
Grubauer - 4th round pick
Oettinger - 1st.
Andersen - drafted twice, 7th round (Carolina) and 4th round I believe by Anaheim
Hill - 3rd round pick.

There's a possibility that Oettinger is eliminated.

Goalies are just so unpredictable and there's almost, not fully, but almost no point to draft a goalie in the 1st round anymore.

 

[morhilane]

Goaltending and defense are so underrated in this league.

Underrated by fans and star offensive players, most of the coaches in the league are still trying to have their players play a version of the trap and would prefer to have a healthy Price-caliber goalie in their net than whatever they are stuck with.

 

[McGees]

Ya plus development time is forever…almost better to spend a late 1st or 2nd to scoop an up and comer from another team like Leafs did with Andersen or Raanta got from NYR.

 

[le_sean]

He is more than that absolutely. But i think the point he is trying to make is that we should aim for higher offensive talent when there will obviously be one or two available at 5.

Well I’m going with the assumption that Michkov isn’t an option for the Habs and the other Top 4 are taken. At that point you can make a legitimate claim for Leonard. Habs do need more speed and another shooter. Add his physicality and it seems like a perfect fit.

 

[BergevinBurner]

Goaltending and defense are so underrated in this league.

Grab the bpa at 5, hopefully michkov....but if we keep the Florida pick, grab the best tendy. Not even kidding. Just look at Edmonton and Toronto

We're probably going to have to address our future goaltending through free agency or the draft.

Even if we grab a goalie with Florida's pick, they probably won't be NHL ready for another 4/5 seasons. At that point Suzuki will be 28/29. We're going to need to find an answer externally if Montembeaut or one of the guys in the system aren't starter material.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I know Hrabal is the talk of the town but I think I would prefer they waited a bit until the 2nd/3rd round pick and took Jacob Fowler. I don't see meaningful difference between the two aside from size and Fowler at 6'2 is still decently sized.

I don't dislike this strategy at all.. but if Hrabal is hanging around near the Florida pick, you make a move up and get him.

So, Dragicevic with Florida's pick ?

Nah... we don't need to add that type of defenseman. Reinbacher, Wallinder, someone with two way ability on the right side.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

So, Dragicevic with Florida's pick ?

No.

 

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

So glad we ONLY have to wait until June 28th to know all the answers to these great questions...

They’re going to go with Dvorsky or Leonard

 

[Redux91]

They’re going to go with Dvorsky or Leonard

Feels like this, I agree

Leonard is pretty intriguing tho gotta say, should we miss out on all the great loot that is..

 

[WeThreeKings]

Man.. Craig Button's list is a straight up abomination.

 

[Wats]

Let’s get the PPG player first, and then the blue collar grinders. Vegas is a good team, with aggressive a management, and are highly ambitious for success — the Habs are a bad team, with historically passive conservative management, and highly ineffective at team building.

Vegas traded for a post-surgery Eichel, the Habs are hemming and hawing over whether to draft Michkov if available. Not comparable!

They had Stone on LTIR all year too, he's also legitimately a ppg player when healthy.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Craig Button's top 100

Some notables:

#5: ASP
#8: Willander
#12: Leonard
#14: Benson
#24: Reinbacher
#35: Cristall
#51: Heidt
#65: Lardis
#70: Stramel
#94: Akey

Craig's List: After impressive U18 showing, Axel Sandin Pellikka moves into Top 5 | TSN

Rising from No. 10 to No. 5 on Craig Button’s latest Craig's List, Axel Sandin Pellikka is fresh off winning best defenceman honours at the U18s in Switzerland after putting up 11 points in seven games to help Sweden earn silver.

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There's actually quite a few players I like in 3rd round, including Terrance, Akey, Myatovic, Gajan, Minnetian, Lind, Rehkopf & Lardis.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Craig "boxscore" Button

 

[NotProkofievian]

Button will not yield on Eduard Sale.

 

[junyab]

Grab the bpa at 5, hopefully michkov....but if we keep the Florida pick, grab the best tendy. Not even kidding. Just look at Edmonton and Toronto

I agree 100%.