HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[JeffreyLFC]

If the habs trade down im closing my television and i stop watching the draft

Too bad for you

 

[WinterLion]

I don't think Detroit, Arizona or Washington would pass on him

On what basis?

 

[Kennerback]

On what basis?

Detroit won Cups because they picked Russians during the Cold War. Washington had a russian Captain raising the Cup and winning the playoff MVP a couple of years ago. I could add that i believe the Pens would too. But some other teams would be like Montreal and would stay away.

 

[Frank JT]

I don't think Detroit, Arizona or Washington would pass on him

Speculation and logic.

Arizona is looking for a star.
They have 6th and 12.
They could take a chance with Michkov at 6 and still have another high pick on a good year.

Detroit is looking for a offensive star.
They have 9th and 18th
They could take a chance with Michkov.

Washington would like to have a Ovy replacement.

Maybe other teams would also be glad to trade up to Michkov

If Montreal don't want a take the Russian, there is a oportunity...

 

[montreal]

Thanks for the video. What's your thoughts on Michkov?

He looked bigger, faster, then when I last saw him in the MHL when he was teammates with Hab prospect Alexander Gordin. He reminds me of Caufield. I think the Habs will look closely at trying to get bigger as Caufield, Farrell, Roy, Kidney, so many of their forward prospects either lack height, weight, speed, skating or various combos of all. Slaf and Dach of course help, I wouldn't count on Tuch being more then a 4th liner at least so far. Biondi is big but the skating is rough.

 

[WinterLion]

Detroit won Cups because they picked Russians during the Cold War. Washington had a russian Captain raising the Cup and winning the playoff MVP a couple of years ago. I could add that i believe the Pens would too. But some other teams would be like Montreal and would stay away.

Perhaps. I think it will come down mostly to risk aversion. I could see the Habs actually being one of the teams best suited to swing for the fences because they have so much depth already in the pool... I guess we'll find out in not too long!

 

[Kennerback]

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lol. That shit matters when you’re going to dedicate the new wing of a foundation. Or mingling with guys called Bryce and Wyatt at a charity auction. No one else cares, but they do. They need to keep abreast with the latest right think. (I’m joking but I know there’s something to it)

 

[David Suzuki]

Detroit won Cups because they picked Russians during the Cold War. Washington had a russian Captain raising the Cup and winning the playoff MVP a couple of years ago. I could add that i believe the Pens would too. But some other teams would be like Montreal and would stay away.

Marty Lapointe was on those Wings teams using this logic the Habs should also take him.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Marty Lapointe was on those Wings teams using this logic the Habs should also take him.

Not gonna lie I'd like a Lapointe on this team.

 

[yianik]

I loved this when I first saw it. Gorton gets it. Too often Habs have thought by going " solid" they would get a player and they were wrong. Look at Carbonneau, tremendous defensive player, was a scoring machine in junior. Always go for the talent.

 

[The Great Weal]

So we're scared of Michkov not coming over when he's attending the draft and other KHL guys signed with their respective teams, but we're not afraid of him coming over and making us look bad for passing up on him? Nice! We better f***ing trade up if that's the case.

 

[River Meadow]

So we're scared of Michkov not coming over when he's attending the draft and other KHL guys signed with their respective teams, but we're not afraid of him coming over and making us look bad for passing up on him? Nice! We better f***ing trade up if that's the case.

We're gonna draft good guy Vanilla Reinbacher and you're gonna love his character.

 

[WeThreeKings]

He looked bigger, faster, then when I last saw him in the MHL when he was teammates with Hab prospect Alexander Gordin. He reminds me of Caufield. I think the Habs will look closely at trying to get bigger as Caufield, Farrell, Roy, Kidney, so many of their forward prospects either lack height, weight, speed, skating or various combos of all. Slaf and Dach of course help, I wouldn't count on Tuch being more then a 4th liner at least so far. Biondi is big but the skating is rough.

Only Caufield really has PPG+ potential. Passing on Michkov for size because of Roy, Farrell and Kidney would be flawed imo.

I think that argument more fittingly applies to Benson.

 

[le_sean]

Smith had his IIHF tourney and launched up the rankings. It’s very possible that Reinbacher does the same starting tomorrow at the worlds, and then we may be looking at a different top 5 then the one most people are accepting as gospel now.

#patience
#itsgoingtobeallgood
#KotanemiwasBergevinsfaultnotHugO

I’m excited to see if he tilts the ice at all because he’s not on a good team. He was doing everything for the WJC version.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Wouldn't you think Columbus would rather take the Northeastern American kid? I also have a feeling that the Sharks will take Michkov but I think the likelihood of that goes down if Carlsson is available so I hope your expectations become a reality cause Hughes basically said if they don't think Michkovs talent level is noticeably above that of the draftees around him, they ain't taking him

Big centers with two way games are premium players. They're not available all that much and Carlsson is a good one. I just don't see them passing him up.

But don’t Sharks need a top C?

They need everything. They have one of the weakest prospect systems in NHL. Zero depth at any position.

They'll be back in the lottery in 2024 & 2025.

I don't see them prioritizing center position, especially with Couture & Hertl taking up 2 top 6 spots for the next 4 years.

The chance to get a scorer like Michkov, who can bring dynamic qualities will be too good for them to pass up. He matches their rebuild timeline too. They're easily 3 years out from actually graduating a roster of prospects.

 

[River Meadow]

Speculation and logic.

Arizona is looking for a star.
They have 6th and 12.
They could take a chance with Michkov at 6 and still have another high pick on a good year.

Detroit is looking for a offensive star.
They have 9th and 18th
They could take a chance with Michkov.

Washington would like to have a Ovy replacement.

Maybe other teams would also be glad to trade up to Michkov

If Montreal don't want a take the Russian, there is a oportunity...

If we had #17 we could also take a chance on Michkov at 5

 

[McGees]

I wonder if there’s any teams with a Luke Hughes type prospect we could trade the 5th for - someone close to stepping in.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Wasn’t that the idea of drafting Geekie?

Yeah, Arizona probably drafts one of Reinbacher or ASP. I could also see them being interested in a player like Leonard, Benson or Perreault.

They have Hayton, Cooley, Geekie & Aku Raty (who had an excellent season in Liiga) already.

I expect them to go RD, winger.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Pittsburgh doesn't really have anything at this point to facilitate that type of deal..



That's best case Ontario for Habs management. They get the guy they probably want, don't have to pay assets to move up and don't get crucified for passing in Michkov.

We also don't want to trade out of top 10.

 

[TomKosto]

Only Caufield really has PPG+ potential. Passing on Michkov for size because of Roy, Farrell and Kidney would be flawed imo.

I think that argument more fittingly applies to Benson.

We can't pass on small talented player in the top5 this year, only because we got some long shot small prospects, don't understand that non sense.

 

[Jaynki]

So we're scared of Michkov not coming over when he's attending the draft and other KHL guys signed with their respective teams, but we're not afraid of him coming over and making us look bad for passing up on him? Nice! We better f***ing trade up if that's the case.

I think that is the media/fan spin.

Hughes always talk in term of risk to reward ratio.

Hughes and Gorton will recognise the opportunity to draft an exceptional, rare talent at a very good pick.

Its an even bigger risk to not select him, especially once the Fantilli and Carlsson are gone.

 

[TomKosto]

I think that is the media/fan spin.

Hughes always talk in term of risk to reward ratio.

Hughes and Gorton will recognise the opportunity to draft an exceptional, rare talent at a very good pick.

Its an even bigger risk to not select him, especially once the Fantilli and Carlsson are gone.

I can trust Hughes and Gorton to select Michkov, but not Molson. He really didn't appreciate the Mailloux circus and I think he will use the long contract in Russia as an excuse.

 

[WinterLion]

I can trust Hughes and Gorton to select Michkov, but not Molson. He really didn't appreciate the Mailloux circus and I think he will use the long contract in Russia as an excuse.

Obviously he didn't like what happened with Mailloux, but this situation is very very different. Do you really think there will be a moral backlash to drafting a Russian player in Montreal? I highly doubt it.

 

[River Meadow]

I can trust Hughes and Gorton to select Michkov, but not Molson. He really didn't appreciate the Mailloux circus and I think he will use the long contract in Russia as an excuse.

Maybe they can prepare a press conference in advance to apologize for drafting a Russian player the day after the draft,

 

[TomKosto]

Obviously he didn't like what happened with Mailloux, but this situation is very very different. Do you really think there will be a moral backlash to drafting a Russian player in Montreal? I highly doubt it.

With the war, contract, etc, I can easy see a media backslash (we have the worst), and Molson don't like bad press. I really really hope I'm wrong, but I just don't feel it.