HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[tooji]

Another good recent video of Michkov KHL highlights:

 

[Andrei79]

Another good recent video of Michkov KHL highlights:

It's going to hurt so bad when he gets picked in one of the next three picks. He's so damn good.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Going to put this down again cause I think it’s important. When Gorton drafted Kravtsov in NY with Bobrov’s advice, most scouts were saying that he could be a steal. Maybe the next Kuznetsov and that his contract was a risk worth taking. That didn’t turn out too well for him.

We’ll have to keep that in mind as I’m sure Gorton will have that as a key reference with Michkov.

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2018/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Vitali-Kravtsov#:~:text=Vitali%20Kravtsov's%20Player%20Profile&text=He%20is%20a%20power%20forward,Kuznetsov%20of%20the%20Washington%20Capitals.%22

Not the same calibre of prospect.

Michkov is right under the generational tier (Kucherov, Pastrnak, Matthews) while Kravtsov was seen more as a future first liner at best.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Not the same calibre of prospect.

Michkov is right under the generational tier (Kucherov, Pastrnak, Matthews) while Kravtsov was seen more as a future first liner at best.

So the magnitude is bigger but the storyline might look the same to Gorton.

 

[Skip Bayless]

So the magnitude is bigger but the storyline might look the same to Gorton.

I mean, the storyline might be similar, but the pedigree of both players is not even comparable at the same age.

 

[Jack Skellington]

Another good recent video of Michkov KHL highlights:

f*** if we don't get this guy we should just put Hutson and forward and give him shooting lessons with Caufield

 

[Zilo44]

In the event we skip on Michkov, Benson or Dvorsky?

 

[Doublechin]

In the event we skip on Michkov, Benson or Dvorsky?

If the feel is that we don't have a 2nd line center suddenly, I'd guess Dvorsky. If I'm told Suzuki and Dach are one two, at their age, I'm going Benson for what I see as more of a potential ppg winger that will fit well with a Dach

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

In the event we skip on Michkov, Benson or Dvorsky?

Trade the pick for a young elite RD

 

[blueberry]

Or just draft Michkov........

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Trade the pick for a young elite RD

Best bet there is to take Reinbacher.

I'll say it again. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOURE NOT TAKING MICHKOV TRADE BACK.

 

[River Meadow]

Another good recent video of Michkov KHL highlights:

Very high hockey IQ and vision, it would seem on par with Bedard.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Best bet there is to take Reinbacher.

I'll say it again. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOURE NOT TAKING MICHKOV TRADE BACK.

I agree but id rather have Jiricek, Nemec, or Dobson, etc than reinbacher

 

[Vachon23]

Give it to me straight, in your opinion:

1. Would he have gone 1OA last year? If not, where would you rank in in the 2022 draft?
2. What’s his reasonable upside?
3. What’s his best NHL comparable?
4. What’s his trajectory timeline?
5. If all goes well, would he be a long-awaited protagonist (ie reliable point producer) for the Habs?

1. Strong possibility but I prefer Logan Cooley
2. 1st line RW offensive dynamo but he won't change your franchise like the 4 others can
3. Trevor Zegras or a bigger but slower Clayton Keller
4. He's playing in the NCAA next year and if thing goes well for him I could see play in the NHL in 2024-25
5. He's probably gonna be a PPG player but I don't think he's gonna be a game breaker that carry your team

 

[badfish]

Sleeping like we did with Geekie?
*Eye roll emoji

I watched a lot of Musty this year. Went to a lot of Wolves games in the first quarter of season, last quarter of season and playoffs.

I really liked him. He's obviously got skills/talent and he plays pretty nasty/borderline dirty. Like I can remember a play clear in my mind where he cross checked a player right in the head behind the play after receiving a questionable hit. Very lucky it wasn't picked up by refs/on camera.

I think his consistency issues improved post- coaching change. He doesn't strike me as having a good hockey IQ which makes me think he's probably not on Habs horizon.

But it takes all kinds of kinds to make a team. I think if he hits he's like Tyler Bertuzzi. Gritty, underappreciated skill, and plays on that edge where sometimes it helps your team and other times he hurts the team. Bertuzzi is obviously valuable because the Bruins paid a 1st for him. Might provide something in the Habs pipeline that they don't really have now.

 

[Jaynki]

Great consolation prize, absolutely. Step above everyone else after.

But i'm preparing myself incase Michkov is who's left of the top 5 and Habs are too beta to take him

It would be incomprehensible.

 

[Jaynki]

Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.

 

[la25ecoupe]

Damn, Habs only 4 loses away from Bedard

 

[Hins77]

Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.

And that the kind of selection that could separate the Montreal Canadiens vs the rest of the pack.

 

[McGees]

Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.

I think a 5th overall is worth more than a dollar and Michkov is not 3x as good as the next best player is he? Hopefully after combine and Bobrov's connections they find out the real deal...if he is 100% coming in 3 years I'm down.

 

[Goldenhands]

Sleeping like we did with Geekie?
*Eye roll emoji

Holy shit this guy is funny. Geekie 1st OV then Musty at 6, thx for sharing, had a good laugh...

 

[Jack Skellington]

It's pretty cool how Grant has Dvorsky ahead of Carlsson when he has much worse production in a lower league. Just a very good scout.

 

[montreal]

1st goal - 7:20
2nd goal - 12:19

 

[Habitant#1]

Damn, Habs only 4 loses away from Bedard

How much culture did the Habs build with those 4.5 wins that’s worth losing out on Bedard?

I doubt it was worth it…

 

[NotProkofievian]

I'd probably rather take Halttunen than Musty.