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HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

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SwiftyHab said:
Going to put this down again cause I think it’s important. When Gorton drafted Kravtsov in NY with Bobrov’s advice, most scouts were saying that he could be a steal. Maybe the next Kuznetsov and that his contract was a risk worth taking. That didn’t turn out too well for him.

We’ll have to keep that in mind as I’m sure Gorton will have that as a key reference with Michkov.

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2018/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Vitali-Kravtsov#:~:text=Vitali%20Kravtsov's%20Player%20Profile&text=He%20is%20a%20power%20forward,Kuznetsov%20of%20the%20Washington%20Capitals.%22
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Not the same calibre of prospect.

Michkov is right under the generational tier (Kucherov, Pastrnak, Matthews) while Kravtsov was seen more as a future first liner at best.
 
Skip Bayless said:
Not the same calibre of prospect.

Michkov is right under the generational tier (Kucherov, Pastrnak, Matthews) while Kravtsov was seen more as a future first liner at best.
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So the magnitude is bigger but the storyline might look the same to Gorton.
 
Zilo44 said:
In the event we skip on Michkov, Benson or Dvorsky?
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If the feel is that we don't have a 2nd line center suddenly, I'd guess Dvorsky. If I'm told Suzuki and Dach are one two, at their age, I'm going Benson for what I see as more of a potential ppg winger that will fit well with a Dach
 
ReHabs said:
Give it to me straight, in your opinion:

1. Would he have gone 1OA last year? If not, where would you rank in in the 2022 draft?
2. What’s his reasonable upside?
3. What’s his best NHL comparable?
4. What’s his trajectory timeline?
5. If all goes well, would he be a long-awaited protagonist (ie reliable point producer) for the Habs?
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1. Strong possibility but I prefer Logan Cooley
2. 1st line RW offensive dynamo but he won't change your franchise like the 4 others can
3. Trevor Zegras or a bigger but slower Clayton Keller
4. He's playing in the NCAA next year and if thing goes well for him I could see play in the NHL in 2024-25
5. He's probably gonna be a PPG player but I don't think he's gonna be a game breaker that carry your team
 
McGees said:
Sleeping like we did with Geekie?
*Eye roll emoji

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I watched a lot of Musty this year. Went to a lot of Wolves games in the first quarter of season, last quarter of season and playoffs.

I really liked him. He's obviously got skills/talent and he plays pretty nasty/borderline dirty. Like I can remember a play clear in my mind where he cross checked a player right in the head behind the play after receiving a questionable hit. Very lucky it wasn't picked up by refs/on camera.

I think his consistency issues improved post- coaching change. He doesn't strike me as having a good hockey IQ which makes me think he's probably not on Habs horizon.

But it takes all kinds of kinds to make a team. I think if he hits he's like Tyler Bertuzzi. Gritty, underappreciated skill, and plays on that edge where sometimes it helps your team and other times he hurts the team. Bertuzzi is obviously valuable because the Bruins paid a 1st for him. Might provide something in the Habs pipeline that they don't really have now.
 
G0bias said:
Great consolation prize, absolutely. Step above everyone else after.

But i'm preparing myself incase Michkov is who's left of the top 5 and Habs are too beta to take him
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It would be incomprehensible.
 
Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.
 
Jaynki said:
Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.
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And that the kind of selection that could separate the Montreal Canadiens vs the rest of the pack.
 
Jaynki said:
Let' say we play heads or tails.

Heads you lose 1$

Tails you win 3$.

Even tho you gonna lose 50% of the time, it is still worth it to play as much as you can because the reward is way bigger than the risk. In fact, with such a risk/reward ratio, you could win just 1 times out of 3 and still end up being f***ing rich.

That is what we call an asymmetrical bet.

In the context of the draft, getting a player of Michkov caliber is so f***ing rare. On the other hands, the Bensons and Dvorskys of this world, although legit A-prospects, are available each and every year.

At 5, considering his immense talent, and what is left on the table, even with ignoring his desire to play in the NHL, Michkov is the definition in terms of an asymmetrical bet in hockey drafting.
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I think a 5th overall is worth more than a dollar and Michkov is not 3x as good as the next best player is he? Hopefully after combine and Bobrov's connections they find out the real deal...if he is 100% coming in 3 years I'm down.
 
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