Dvorsky is 100% who Timmins would’ve drafted if he was still with us and we had the 3rdI’ve been saying it with the Timmins and Grant Mccagg connection
HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2
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Estimated_Prophet
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Slaf is absolutely not in the same tier as any of the top 5, I could see him falling to 7th or possibly even lower if he was in this draft. He would get zero consideration over Carlsson, Fantilli and Michkov and I think Smith and Dvorsky are definitely better as well.
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And Michkov 2nd. That would ignite the draft wouldnt it
Kennerback
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I don’t see how Dvorsky is better than Slaf other than being better defensively when playing the Center position.
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Estimated_Prophet
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I don't see how he isn't better, he is quite literally better at everything other than being big imo. This doesn't mean that Slaf can't be better but I think Dvorsky has the inside lane. Hockey IQ is the most important trait and Dvorsky easily has Slaf beat in this category or he is at the very least well ahead of Slaf at the same age.
Juraj is a very good prospect but he has some glaring holes that Dvorsky does not have.
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Slafkovsky is also known to elevate his play when it matters. At least, that's how the Slovaks see him. He's their hero, the big brother.
Can't wait to see what he's gonna do in his prime and when we have a playoff team.
Can't wait to see what he's gonna do in his prime and when we have a playoff team.
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Juraj is 100% the type of player who will score big goals.
Very excited to watch his progression in the next few years.
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Can we stop talking about Slafkovsky in every f***ing thread?
Cristall is a lot better at skating than Brink was and also hands are not even close
If Andrew isnt fast enough, Smith isnt either.
Brink is gonna be a top 6er, injuries slowed him down.
Cristall is a lot better at skating than Brink was and also hands are not even close
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Turnovers are usually the result of having the puck a lot, and Smith doesn't have a better shot than Cristall. Cristall is a lot more than just a kid with a bag of tricks. You have those every year, and they don't come close to doing what Cristall did on a hot garbage Kelowna team.
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True. If michkov and his camp persuade the GMs that it's his plan to come to the NHL right after his khl contract expires, it wouldn't surprise me if he went 2 or 3. Everyone and their mother knows he'd be going 2 if his last name was Michaels and he was born in Massachusetts. If the investment pays off, you're probably getting the next russian superstar if you draft michkov
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A Plekanec that steps up in the playoffs. I'll take that any day.
We need another guy tho. We don't necessarily need a superstar either. Depends on how Hugo wants to construct this team.
I wonder if PLD is enough. It would be an interesting top 6. I think the long term plan for that would be to give Suzuki and PLD really solid wingers. Caufield, Dach, Slaf, 2023 draft, etc ... Could be juicy
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I think my criticism of Cristall is quite universal as he makes so many terrible turnovers from trying low percentage dekes and passes. He is obviously talented but he doesn't play anything remotely resembling a pro game. Of course all players commit turnovers but he is on another level in this regard.
I honestly think Smith is better in absolutely every facet of the game.
Like the rest of us on this board I don't have the time to make the most informed opinion as I have never watched him live, I have never met him and I have not spoken to coaches and players who know him so take my opinion for what it is worth. From the games that I have watched him I have not been impressed but would consider drafting him with FLA's pick. It would be unthinkable to take him at 5 OA though.
Like I've said a few times, he's not a perfect prospect by any means. But after we're done ranking all the guys who ''can't miss, when I know I know, and I know'' he's the next guy on upside alone.
Some of those aformentioned ''can't miss, when I know I know, and I know'' guys will bust, too.
SOLR
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Smith wants to play at a high pace. Cristall doesn't, 1 speed - very Mike Ribeiro like.
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Will not talk about Slaf just Dvorsky…
I‘m not convinced about Dvorsky‘s offensive game. His style is essentially a careful two-way Center. He doesn’t have the offensive zip and zap. His numbers in the WJC and in the Swedish « second division » are plain. Is there any tangible info that his offensive game is more than a huge work in progress like Kotkaniem?
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Like that is a small thing in the NHL?
As a 17 years old
One could hide a young body in the Swedish leagues, they are not very offensively gifted and very tight. I won't re-do the Raymond arguments, but Dvorsky had a similar draft year as Raymond.
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Kennerback
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Fair enough. Sure some have been successful with a similar stat line. So it’s not a hinderance.
What I want to know is if there is anything in viewings about his game, or his curent or past stats that demonstrate that he can be a superior offensive performer in the NHL? Other than wishful thinking and the general idea that some other Top-10 players had mediocre or average stats compared to their peers? Why do you know he’ll be superior offensively than KK?
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Because he's vastly superior defensively and that will create a lot more opportunities.
Kennerback
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How good are we talking about? Doug Risebrough offensively good? Bob Gainey HHOF offensively good?
SOLR
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Anton Stastny, but probably a longer career - Anton 1980s style surgeries "we remove everything injured" were bad for him.
Do factor in that we don't have Peter Stastny...so minus 20% in numbers but the same effect on the game.
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Davidson's teammate Jeremy Hanzel looks like a good bet to be drafted mid/late as an overager this year
20 year old, 6"1 LHD with 22 points in 19 playoff games
Kind of get Beaulieu vibes from him, not as good of a skater but smarter offensively and should become a good enough fighter to take on most middle weights in the NHL.
Bottom pairing LHD isn't a need for us really, but if you can get him late I think it's worth the gamble
20 year old, 6"1 LHD with 22 points in 19 playoff games
Kind of get Beaulieu vibes from him, not as good of a skater but smarter offensively and should become a good enough fighter to take on most middle weights in the NHL.
Bottom pairing LHD isn't a need for us really, but if you can get him late I think it's worth the gamble
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Kennerback
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I don’t think most people want a defensive shut down forward at 5OA. They expect a serious offensive producer.
I kind of understand that Grant and others that like Slafkofsky might also be impressed by Dvorsky’s performance and numbers because they are even more impressed by Slafkofsky‘s performance. They followed the same path playing for Team Slovakia and in Scandinavia. Except Slafkofsky looked better and produced better offensively. But Dvorsky while inferior followed close behind.
i don’t understand posters that think Slafkofsky might be offensively challenged and Dvorsky might not.
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