Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Part 2 (Who Do You Want To Draft At #2)

[Kalv]

I'm going to enjoy watching the meltdown when we select Carlsson. Its going to be like McTavish all over again.

I think PV values size and hockey IQ which would put Carlsson ahead of Fantilli.

Carlsson has a bit wider shoulders but his head plus hair is bigger which gives the feeling when they're standing next to each other It does seem that Carlsson has a bit more unfilled frame tho which is always good in the future perspective. I am a big fan of the hockey IQ as well, but will Leo be that much more suited for the NA ice? And will he have the bite necessary to succeed in the playoffs? I sure hope he does.

How can I watch the draft if I don’t have cable tv?

There are this one hockey streaming site that I am not sure I can post here that always have all the live streams of these events.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

If indeed we take Carlsson, PV apparently does not have any interest in winning a cup. He is the opposite of a player made for the playoffs. But that's just my stance...

You can win with players like Fantilli and Carlsson

I'm going to enjoy watching the meltdown when we select Carlsson. Its going to be like McTavish all over again.

I think PV values size and hockey IQ which would put Carlsson ahead of Fantilli.

It’s being over analyzed to death - that’s the problem. I have no bias on both, but a ton of people (especially on social media) are putting all their eggs in the Fantilli basket, when there is a great chance Carlsson goes second

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[Steve7812]

NHL Mock Draft 2.0: Scott Wheeler predicts the first two rounds

Scott Wheeler offers his educated best guess at how the first two rounds of the 2023 NHL Draft will play out.

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If anyone is interested in Wheelers final mock draft for 1st & 2nd Rd that came out this morning, His picks for ducks as followed:

No. 2: Adam Fantilli, C
No. 33: Gavin Brindley, C
No. 59: Jacob Fowler, G
No. 60: Maxim Strbak, RHD

 

[Kalv]

Would love to add him but he's probably gone by the 2nd round

 

[nbducksfan19]

If indeed we take Carlsson, PV apparently does not have any interest in winning a cup. He is the opposite of a player made for the playoffs. But that's just my stance...

You, like everyone, are welcome to your opinion, but I don’t know how you come to that conclusion a mere months after Carlsson a historic playoff run, scoring the 3rd most Playoff points all time by a draft eligible…

 

[Kalv]

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Would love to add him but he's probably gone by the 2nd round

Oh definitely. He's part of that group of bigger talented forwards I'd love to move up for, picturing them all being gone by around 25th overall.

Musty has the type of profile where it shouldn't be too much shock if he comes off the board in the top half of the first round or even top ten. Could say that about so many big forwards in this draft though.

Wood, Ritchie, Barlow, Musty, Honzek, But, Edstrom...these are guys who teams tend to fall in love with. Adding one of them to our #2 pick would be massive for our future.

 

[tomd]

The Mayor doubling down on a Q&A on Twitter last night. Followed right along by someone asking what are the chances PV trades down to which he responds “No Clue. He plays it close to the vest. If hes not drafting Fantilli he should trade back.” So if PV plays it close to his vest which we know he does…who exactly is he hearing the Carlsson smoke from lol

For this to be true, two things must also be true:
1. PV doesn't have a strong preference between the two players
2. The "trade down" scenario is moving from 2 to 3. No other scenario is likely to leave Fantilli on the board.

 

[GermanRocket7]

You, like everyone, are welcome to your opinion, but I don’t know how you come to that conclusion a mere months after Carlsson a historic playoff run, scoring the 3rd most Playoff points all time by a draft eligible…

Swedish playoffs are not comparable to NHL playoffs whatsoever. The Swedish league pretty much relies on speed and technique only and is much, much less physical than the NHL. Carlsson being who he is would most likely get clocked once or twice in the first few games and then just stare and wonder what happened.

You absolutely can not teach grit, of which he literally has none whatsoever. As much as I hate to say this, but I fully agree with Dirk here: he's a soft and gentle giant.

Again, as I felt I was forced to state this time and again on this board due to the minority being in favor of Carlsson being extremely loud. the kid undoubtedly has a very great skill set with lots of hockey IQ and great passing. But he completely lacks in speed, grit, and finishing.

I flat out would be extremely disappointed if we didn't pick Fantilli and could all but guarantee that he will have the much better and more successful career in the end compared to everyone else we might pick instead.

Carlsson in my opinion has written regular season hero all over him, but would anyone really want to have a Sedin instead of a Shanahan? I take the player with the proven PO performance boost ten out of ten times, thank you very much.

 

[Rasp]

Swedish playoffs are not comparable to NHL playoffs whatsoever. The Swedish league pretty much relies on speed and technique only and is much, much less physical than the NHL. Carlsson being who he is would most likely get clocked once or twice in the first few games and then just stare and wonder what happened.

You absolutely can not teach grit, of which he literally has none whatsoever. As much as I hate to say this, but I fully agree with Dirk here: he's a soft and gentle giant.

Again, as I felt I was forced to state this time and again on this board due to the minority being in favor of Carlsson being extremely loud , the kid undoubtedly has a very great skill set with lots of hockey IQ and great passing. But he completely lacks in speed, grit, and finishing.

I flat out would be extremely disappointed if we didn't pick Fantilli and could all but guarantee that he will have the much better and more successful career in the end compared to everyone else we might pick instead.

Carlsson in my opinion has written regular season hero all over him, but would anyone really want to have a Sedin instead of a Shanahan? I take the player with the proven PO performance boost ten out of ten times, thank you very much.

Carlsson had 9 points in 13 SHL playoff games, improving during the playoffs compared to regular season

 

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[Leonardo87]

NHL schedule will be out later today.

 

[tomd]

Carlsson had 9 points in 13 SHL playoff games, improving during the playoffs compared to regular season

Yes he did but only 1 goal. He is an impressive talent but is he a game changer? Can he alter the flow of the game with one big hit or one shot? Fantilli can do those things and that's the kind of player I would want in the playoffs.

 

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Stephens: The Ducks should draft Adam Fantilli with No. 2 pick

Fantilli has the skills and traits the Ducks need — and he's a great fit with their general manager.

theathletic.com

The tone is kind of interesting.

 

[70sSanO]

The main problem I have with drafting Carlsson is how poorly we handled the last Swede we drafted named Karlsson.

John

 

[Arthuros]

Stephens: The Ducks should draft Adam Fantilli with No. 2 pick

Fantilli has the skills and traits the Ducks need — and he's a great fit with their general manager.

theathletic.com

The tone is kind of interesting.

It almost reads like Stephens is trying to pitch Fantilli to PV directly, rather than just an opinion piece.

 

[tomd]

The main problem I have with drafting Carlsson is how poorly we handled the last Swede we drafted named Karlsson.

John

The Ducks are on a bit of a losing streak with Swedes...Pettersson (meh), Larsson (bust), Lundestrom (meh-ish). Not a good direction...

 

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2023 NHL Mock Draft - Smaht Scouting

The Smaht Scouting team completed a three round mock draft prior to the 2023 NHL Entry Draft. Check out who they selected.

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This would be an insane haul for us, but isn't realistic.

As an aside, I will be shocked if fantilli isn't the guy we pick. The mayor is the only person out of everyone I've been reading saying the opposite.

 

[goonsaredumb]

2023 NHL Mock Draft - Smaht Scouting

The Smaht Scouting team completed a three round mock draft prior to the 2023 NHL Entry Draft. Check out who they selected.

smahtscouting.com

This would be an insane haul for us, but isn't realistic.

As an aside, I will be shocked if fantilli isn't the guy we pick. The mayor is the only person out of everyone I've been reading saying the opposite.

Matt Wood at 33? what the hell, I mean I would LOVE that to happen but there's no way in hell he doesn't go in that 10-20 range if not earlier, Morin and Mania would make our already insane defensive prospect pool out of this world but I suspect we end up going heavy on the forward picks this year

 

[70sSanO]

The Ducks are on a bit of a losing streak with Swedes...Pettersson (meh), Larsson (bust), Lundestrom (meh-ish). Not a good direction...

I agree. I has to be a Swede thing.

At first I thought it was just having a double consonant, but Perry and Terry have disproved that.

John

 

[Static]

Wheeler's final mock. Says everything he is hearing is still us going with fantilli, ultimately.

33. Gavin brindley (no thanks)
59. Jacob Fowler, G.
60. Max Strbak, D.

Pronman vs. Wheeler: How close are Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson? What should Habs, Caps do?

In part three of their debate series, Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler debate how closely grouped the top prospects are, and much more.

theathletic.com

Wheeler has fantilli comfortably higher than Carlsson, albeit in the same value tier.

Pronman, however, values fantilli appreciably more. Says it's akin to "Jack eichel vs. Dylan strome", which feels borderline hyperbolic.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Wheeler's final mock. Says everything he is hearing is still us going with fantilli, ultimately.

33. Gavin brindley (no thanks)
59. Jacob Fowler, G.
60. Max Strbak, D.

Pronman vs. Wheeler: How close are Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson? What should Habs, Caps do?

In part three of their debate series, Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler debate how closely grouped the top prospects are, and much more.

theathletic.com

Wheeler has fantilli comfortably higher than Carlsson, albeit in the same value tier.

Pronman, however, values fantilli appreciably more. Says it's akin to "Jack eichel vs. Dylan strome", which feels borderline hyperbolic.

Finally someone with the balls to call it what it really is. Not even close “ fantilli is closer to bedard than anyone else is to fantilli “ fanta man after watching the nhl playoffs this year “ Matthew Tkachuk is a player I want to emulate and play like” my favorite quotes of the year ,welcome to Anaheim son!

 

[McDonald19]

I'm going to enjoy watching the meltdown when we select Carlsson. Its going to be like McTavish all over again.

I think PV values size and hockey IQ which would put Carlsson ahead of Fantilli.

I liked the McTavish pick at the time. I will be very disappointed if we go Carlsson though.

 

[Gliff]

I really don't see the Ducks taking a goalie in the first 3 rounds. Especially with Maddens comments about how good the players are that will be available with their first 5 picks.

In Maddens time this is the goalies and the round we have drafted them in:
Cousineau - 3
Bobkov - 3
Gibson- 2
Andersen - 3
Metcalf - 6
Eriksson Ek - 6
Durny - 5
Dostal - 3
Alexander - 5
Buteyets - 6

The Ducks have only drafted 1 guy in the 2nd and it was Gibson who was WAY more hyped then any goalie in this draft. All the others have generally been late 3rds or later, and anecdotally speaking the late 3rd is where the level of players available starts to drop.

I don't see any reason for the Ducks to draft a goalie in the first 3 rounds. Goalie is not a need organizationally, and they can take shots on goalies later in the draft. If they take a goalie with one of those first 5 picks I will be really annoyed.

I'm going to enjoy watching the meltdown when we select Carlsson. Its going to be like McTavish all over again.

I think PV values size and hockey IQ which would put Carlsson ahead of Fantilli.

Who had a meltdown? I think I was one of the more vocal opponents to drafting McTavish over Hughes or Eklund, but I don't think people were calling for Maddens job or anything.