Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Part 2 (Who Do You Want To Draft At #2)

[Mr Rogers]

The part that made me think they were thinking Carlsson was actually this:

When we have gathered all the information, Pat has made his rounds around the league and has all the info there, that's when we'll make the final decision.

Again, I could be reading too much into it, but sure feels like they mean potentially getting of 2nd OA. I don't think you even consider that if Fantilli is your guy. That and the brief descriptions, which you both alluded to.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Also that statement to me is typical management parlance when talking about important and sensitive stuff like the draft, trades, signing etc. I think that's an incredibly general statement and it speaks more to their process of how they make their final decision rather than implying a bias for a certain player.

 

[tomd]

The part that made me think they were thinking Carlsson was actually this:

When we have gathered all the information, Pat has made his rounds around the league and has all the info there, that's when we'll make the final decision.

Again, I could be reading too much into it, but sure feels like they mean potentially getting of 2nd OA. I don't think you even consider that if Fantilli is your guy. That and the brief descriptions, which you both alluded to.

Well, that kind of matches with the 4D chess I mentioned in the post above. There is possibly a deal to be made with Columbus where the Ducks could pick up another asset. The most logical situation would be if Columbus really wants Carlsson and they also think the Ducks want him as well. Could they be enticed to give up 34OA to move up one spot and be guaranteed Carlsson? The Ducks would still take Fantilli but would have weaponized that draft slot perfectly. And that is perhaps why we are hearing that the Ducks are leaning towards Carlsson. Just spitballing here but the logic does flow.

 

[squashmaple]

Well, that kind of matches with the 4D chess I mentioned in the post above. There is possibly a deal to be made with Columbus where the Ducks could pick up another asset. The most logical situation would be if Columbus really wants Carlsson and they also think the Ducks want him as well. Could they be enticed to give up 34OA to move up one spot and be guaranteed Carlsson? The Ducks would still take Fantilli but would have weaponized that draft slot perfectly. And that is perhaps why we are hearing that the Ducks are leaning towards Carlsson. Just spitballing here but the logic does flow.

And I think Columbus calls the bluff on that. They'll take whichever of the two Anaheim doesn't and lose exactly no sleep over the results.

 

[DavidBL]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that feels like Anaheim is leaning towards Carlsson, which I'd be really disappointed with. Ever since the Lindholm pick, I've tried to not get too frustrated at who we pick, but I *really* want Fantilli.

I think you're reading too much into it. I didn't get a sense if preference either way.

 

[tomd]

And I think Columbus calls the bluff on that. They'll take whichever of the two Anaheim doesn't and lose exactly no sleep over the results.

As I said, it would all be predicated on Columbus strongly preferring Carlsson and fearing that the Ducks are going to take him at #2. Not sure how likely that is or not but if Columbus can't get Carlsson they may go for Smith over Fantilli. There seems to be a lot of love there for Smith.

 

[robbieboy3686]

As I said, it would all be predicated on Columbus strongly preferring Carlsson and fearing that the Ducks are going to take him at #2. Not sure how likely that is or not but if Columbus can't get Carlsson they may go for Smith over Fantilli. There seems to be a lot of love there for Smith.

Lmfao “ fearing us taking carlsson” I actually spit out my iced tea.

 

[tomd]

Lmfao “ fearing us taking carlsson” I actually spit out my iced tea.

Anything is possible at this point. In fact, things are so crazy I wouldn't be surprised if the order at the top went Bedard-Carlsson-Smith-Fantilli. But then again, I don't have your sources!!

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Yes, there is a consensus most everywhere saying Fantilli goes #2. But there is probably an even bigger consensus saying the two are extremely close in their evaluations. As such, it wouldn't shock me for them to go in either order.

 

[Leonardo87]

Lmfao “ fearing us taking carlsson” I actually spit out my iced tea.

I’m asking you to tone it down with this. It’s not 100 percent that it will be Fantilli. If you want to debate why you disagree it will never be Carlsson, that’s fine, but laughing at other members because they might think it will be Carlsson, is over the top.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Anything is possible at this point. In fact, things are so crazy I wouldn't be surprised if the order at the top went Bedard-Carlsson-Smith-Fantilli. But then again, I don't have your sources!!

That would literally be the definition of living in alternate universes tbh. Lol. Draft can’t get here soon enough.

 

[Anarchynate]

This all could be a runaround for Michkov. I’m beginning to get a hunch it will be him. It’s the players Pat V doesn’t talk about are chosen. Last year in Minty and the year before with Mason. Heck if we can get Arizona to trade 6 & 12 and snag Michkov & a possible falling Benson/ Dvorsky I call that a win

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that feels like Anaheim is leaning towards Carlsson, which I'd be really disappointed with. Ever since the Lindholm pick, I've tried to not get too frustrated at who we pick, but I *really* want Fantilli.

My toughts also...he described Fantili like he is middle first round pick...
Also strange he used imposing and competitive when speaking about Carlsson...considering those are qualities which i think Pat likes a lot.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that feels like Anaheim is leaning towards Carlsson, which I'd be really disappointed with. Ever since the Lindholm pick, I've tried to not get too frustrated at who we pick, but I *really* want Fantilli.

I got “we aren’t saying anything” out of that

 

[lwvs84]

If PV and the Ducks are playing 4D chess then maybe they are trying to put doubt in the minds of Columbus perhaps guessing (or knowing) that the BJ's want Carlsson. In that case, PV may be able to extract something from Columbus to switch 2/3 with the Ducks. Maybe 34OA from Columbus for the Ducks to move to 3rd? Just thinking out loud here...no suggesting it is what is actually happening.

Or if they have Carlsson ranked well ahead of Smith, they're trying to make sure he doesn't last too San Jose... but I really doubt teams read as much as fans do into interviews.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

I'm still in the Fantilli camp, but if I had to guess, the thing that might give the FO pause (though it wouldn't affect my decision) is that him going back to college for another year actually seems to be a very real thing, whereas they can sign Carlsson and get him into San Diego under the organization's umbrella and develop him on their terms immediately.

 

[Duck Off]

I got “we aren’t saying anything” out of that

You’re probably right. I’m over analyzing as always I’m sure

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I got “we aren’t saying anything” out of that

I didn't have to read the article to get that out of a Ducks management interview.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Not going to lie. I finally have worry and doubt. My hf boards days might be coming to an end soon.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I've never heard Smith described as 'Fast' until Madden said it that is what I find very interesting. Is there something we didn't see with Smith's skating ?
Madden saying very little about Fantilli but more detailed about Smith and Carlsson could be his way of trying to avoid saying too much about Fantilli to not give it away or giving extra praise to the ones he's not picking.

 

[DavidBL]

Supposedly there is a rumor we might take Michkov. The more of these that come out the more I think it's miss information.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Supposedly there is a rumor we might take Michkov. The more of these that come out the more I think it's miss information.

I think it's less rumor and more clickbait BS. Especially Canadian media like Button who doesn't have a f***ing clue about non Canadian teams, especially ones not on the east coast or O6.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Not going to lie. I finally have worry and doubt. My hf boards days might be coming to an end soon.

Its starting to look like SJ will get Fantilli. The Madden high praise for Smith makes it feel he goes #3 to Columbus, then Fantilli #4 to SJ.

Eklund/Fantilli will be quite a duo and will be hard to contain.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Supposedly there is a rumor we might take Michkov. The more of these that come out the more I think it's miss information.

With todays news I hope that is reconsidered if true.

 

[Rasp]

Judging by the responses Madden gave we will be drafting Carlsson.

How would you describe the play styles of Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson and Will Smith?
MM: Fantilli is a fast-paced, straight line, skilled forward. Carlsson is an intelligent, creative big man who is imposing and competitive. Smith is a creative, fast, elusive and dynamic forward.

 

[robbieboy3686]

If we don’t pick fantilli, it should be because we accept a trade with Montreal and fleece them. Only way it works in a non fantilli world imho