Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

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[Dr Johnny Fever]

I'll never forget Burke's famous quote after taking Ryan....I can't believe he was still there! lol (Yes, it was said in jest. )

 

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[Leonardo87]

The fact that if we lose the lottery and can still end up with him, is crazy.

 

[lwvs84]

i'd say best prospect since tverdovsky, who was getting bobby orr comparisons when he was drafted. or even bobby ryan, who was also taken at #2 like tverdovsky was

Was Tverdovsky really thought that high of? I wasn't as in to hockey back then. I thought Ryan wasn't talked of much at 2, I remember everyone thinking Jack Johnson was the consensus #2. Ryan was ranked around 4-5?

 

[robbieboy3686]

My feelings keep shifting on everyone.

Like I'm somewhat open again to do the idea of Michkov given he could easily be the second best player in this draft (first if things go badly with Bedard) but I'm still nervous about the potential risks.

Then I keep flip flopping on Fantilli and Carlsson. If Fantilli's game matures he could be dynamite while Carlsson'a game is already mature he just needs that adaptation to the speed of the NHL and how to maintain his smart decision making and skilled hands in a higher paced-lower space league.

And then the closer we get to the lottery the more I'm getting this feeling that, yeah, even if we're locked in to get a top tier prospect, man would it be a shame to miss out on Bedard.

Just want the whole thing over with.

The only midget we’re taking is bedard. We’re especially not taking the undersized Russian who if we’re lucky will be with us in 3 seasons. You all are wasting thought space on this.

 

[Static]

Was Tverdovsky really thought that high of? I wasn't as in to hockey back then. I thought Ryan wasn't talked of much at 2, I remember everyone thinking Jack Johnson was the consensus #2. Ryan was ranked around 4-5?

He was so highly thought of that he was used as the centerpiece for the Teemu trade way back when. He was a huge prospect.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The fact that if we lose the lottery and can still end up with him, is crazy.

We could fall 2 spots and still end up with him…. Life is good right now

 

[Anaheim4ever]

The only midget we’re taking is bedard. We’re especially not taking the undersized Russian who if we’re lucky will be with us in 3 seasons. You all are wasting thought space on this.

Yeah Bedard is our Grogu. The Moff Gideon of Russia might not ever let its Pocket Ovi ever leave, its still unclear what really happened to Michkov's dad, but i get a bad feeling about it that it will effect the chances of Michkov being able to leave.

 

[Arthuros]

Yeah Bedard is our Grogu. The Moff Gideon of Russia might not ever let its Pocket Ovi ever leave, its still unclear what really happened to Michkov's dad, but i get a bad feeling about it that it will effect the chances of Michkov being able to leave.

Yeah, I think Mironischenko gets thrown around as the counterpoint to Michkov possibly not coming over. But he is a CAPS prospect, of all teams. Helps having a huge Putin supporter as the captain and face of the franchise.

Guess what, outside of Minty who was already in Canada, we've drafted Smirnov, Chistov, Bobkov and Galimov in recent memory. Not exactly a shining example of Russian talent being drafted and developed correctly. If there was any team Russia would be willing to allow prospects to go to, it's the Caps.

 

[tomd]

Yeah, I think Mironischenko gets thrown around as the counterpoint to Michkov possibly not coming over. But he is a CAPS prospect, of all teams. Helps having a huge Putin supporter as the captain and face of the franchise.

Guess what, outside of Minty who was already in Canada, we've drafted Smirnov, Chistov, Bobkov and Galimov in recent memory. Not exactly a shining example of Russian talent being drafted and developed correctly. If there was any team Russia would be willing to allow prospects to go to, it's the Caps.

I know there are notable exceptions but I feel like the bust rate on drafted Russians has been pretty high over the past 7-10 years.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Fantilli just barely over Carlsson for me, but it's mostly a contextual preference. if i were building a forward corps from scratch, i'd probably go Carlsson.

 

[Boo Boo]

He's got two assists today

My out there comparison that I’ve been holding onto for a while is carlsson is like a jumbo terry

 

[HunterDuck]

Can’t wait

 

[gilfaizon]

Something in my gut says we are winning one of the two draws. And I am not normally an optimist.

 

[Trojans86]

Jones has speed, but like Lundy, can't finish.

The fear I have in Fantilli is his play against tougher competition. In the playoffs against tougher competition in the Big-10 and Frozen Four tourney, Fantilli's high end offense was muted. Carlsson, otoh, raised his offense in his playoffs against men. At the WJC, Fantilli looked like a whirling dervish flying all about, but he was doing it on his own playing hero puck. With Carlsson, he looked great at the WJC.

The hope is that Fantilli can evolve to fit into a team game. When you're fast, sometimes you attack 1v3 or 1v5 and not wait for your teammates. Often times, your offense gets muted as we've seen a lot with Troy Terry this past season. Still, that elite skating is elite skating and it's very alluring.

I think Fantilli learning how to play within the team can help him evolve and become an even better player at Michigan, not Anaheim or San Diego.

Yeah, I always call that the curse of speed. A lot of fast players never develop that understanding of where everyone on the ice is because they’re used to just blowing by guys. Not saying that is Fantili btw

 

[GermanRocket7]

Yeah, I think Mironischenko gets thrown around as the counterpoint to Michkov possibly not coming over. But he is a CAPS prospect, of all teams. Helps having a huge Putin supporter as the captain and face of the franchise.

Guess what, outside of Minty who was already in Canada, we've drafted Smirnov, Chistov, Bobkov and Galimov in recent memory. Not exactly a shining example of Russian talent being drafted and developed correctly. If there was any team Russia would be willing to allow prospects to go to, it's the Caps.

Maxim Balmokhnyk says hi.

 

[HanSolo]

Well then...sure hope none of Anaheim's scouts are part of Bobby Margarita's aggregation.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I never watched Marcel Dionne live but based on highlights I’ve seen it looks like Bedard might play a similar style. Similar
Frame and RH shot as well

 

[Arthuros]

Maxim Balmokhnyk says hi.

Unfortunately I was 3 at the time so I can't say I remembered him.

 

[ScarTroy]

Carlsson getting slept on so hard by the media guys that he’s basically already a Duck.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I never watched Marcel Dionne live but based on highlights I’ve seen it looks like Bedard might play a similar style. Similar
Frame and RH shot as well

My buddy was asking about a comparable recently. The best I could come up with was somewhere between an Yzerman and a Sakic, I see now that Button cames him to Stevie Y as well.

Really is on that level where there isn't a perfect comparable because he's good enough to sort of make his own identity.

 

[Mr Rogers]

My buddy was asking about a comparable recently. The best I could come up with was somewhere between an Yzerman and a Sakic, I see now that Button cames him to Stevie Y as well.

Really is on that level where there isn't a perfect comparable because he's good enough to sort of make his own identity.

Yeah those make sense as well. Honestly some of his individual plays have struck as being like a mini Mario Lemieux. I think he will be able to perform in any offensive role that’s asked of him, whether that’s scoring or playmaking or both. He will be able to wear a lot of hats.

 

[Static]

Smith over Carlson, wow. I really don't think there is any way we do that.

 

[HanSolo]

Carlsson getting slept on so hard by the media guys that he’s basically already a Duck.

Well Mckenzie's list takes an aggregate of rankings from pro scouts. But Smith over Carlsson and Michkov seems like some pretty heavy recency bias. I know Michkov is "do not draft" status here but objectively, Michkov already outscored Bedard at the U18s and led the tournament in scoring two years ago. He probably would have smoked Smith this year if he was allowed to participate. Pure non hockey reasons behind that ranking IMO. As for Carlsson, he didn't participate in the U18s because he's poised to center Sweden's first or second line in the World Championships...against grown professional men. Centering established NHL players. Granted we haven't seen how he'll do once the tournament gets started but his passing up the U18s to play international hockey for a top hockey nation in a men's tournament should have been taken into account.

For me Smith's performance gave him a great case to deserve going 5th overall.

 

[All Mighty]

Well Mckenzie's list takes an aggregate of rankings from pro scouts. But Smith over Carlsson and Michkov seems like some pretty heavy recency bias. I know Michkov is "do not draft" status here but objectively, Michkov already outscored Bedard at the U18s and led the tournament in scoring two years ago. He probably would have smoked Smith this year if he was allowed to participate. Pure non hockey reasons behind that ranking IMO. As for Carlsson, he didn't participate in the U18s because he's poised to center Sweden's first or second line in the World Championships...against grown professional men. Centering established NHL players. Granted we haven't seen how he'll do once the tournament gets started but his passing up the U18s to play international hockey for a top hockey nation in a men's tournament should have been taken into account.

For me Smith's performance gave him a great case to deserve going 5th overall.

Michkov and Carlsson (and Fantilli) are all 04s, so they were all too old to play in the U-18s anyway. But I agree with the sentiment.