Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

Blanket warning to everyone - the season is over, the active tanking is over, and everyone needs to remember how to get along.

Polite discussions of different viewpoints is fine. Assertions as to who is a good fan, who is a bad fan, and most particularly trolling behavior is going to result in thread bans and warnings. The vast majority of posters here are great about this. There are a few of you, on both sides of this issue, who are trying to start things, and I would advise you to carefully consider if that snarky comment you just made is worth being your last post in a thread. I would advise the folks who think that making an even snarkier response to make that same assessment. Neither of your posts will be seen by anyone else for long regardless.

It is perfectly fine to not understand how anyone could root for the team to lose. It is perfectly fine to not understand how losing has strong benefits to the franchise king term. There are gaping holes in BOTH positions, that may be discussed and debated…POLITELY.

We are all Ducks fans. Time to remember that and stop being at each other’s throats.

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[Hockey Duckie]

I’m really hoping we pursue a high upside winger in the 2nd round. That is such a massive organizational need

It kinda makes me cringe to know we passed up on Snuggerud and Kulich last year. We could have drafted that shutdown, defensive forward with this year's 2nd round pick instead.

We could take a gamble on 6'3 Halttunen. Great scorer against his peers, but disappeared in the Liiga men's league. There's 6'0 Dower Nilsson, again, banking his U20 production can transfer to the SHL level. Another European scorer could be 6'0 Fiskar Molgaard. He has scored some in the SHL this year, but still a long ways to go.

 

[goonsaredumb]

We could take a gamble on 6'3 Halttunen. Great scorer against his peers, but disappeared in the Liiga men's league.

Speaking of Fins to keep an eye on, Jesse Kiiskinen looks like someone worth keeping an eye on for one of our 2nd or 3rd-round picks, one of the youngest guys in the entire draft, 6' 187lbs RW, with even better production than Halttunen, had a great Hlinka Gretzky showing, great shot, doesn't seem to be a lot of footage out there ATM but he will be on the U18 roster for Finland alongside Halttunen so we should be able to get a better look at both of them soon enough.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

If we pick 3rd and choose Carlsson over Michkov, 5 years from now we’ll be hating ourselves for it.

 

[Gliff]

If we pick 3rd and choose Carlsson over Michkov, 5 years from now we’ll be hating ourselves for it.

Would you trade Getzlaf for a guy who has a 50% chance of becoming Panarin and 50% chance of never playing in the NHL? Make it a 25% chance of never playing in the NHL. Would you?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If we pick 3rd and choose Carlsson over Michkov, 5 years from now we’ll be hating ourselves for it.

I don't see this Ukraine-Russia conflict ending any time soon. On Russia's end, things seem to be escalating for its own citizens - required enlistment or passport will be confiscated is the most recent report.

The longer the conflict, the more I'm dissuaded from drafting any Russian, tbh. And I like Michkov, hope that Simashev falls to the 2nd round or maybe But.

 

[tomd]

Assuming they both hit their peaks, a #1C is generally considered more valuable than a #1W. I have read things about Michkov's overall game that are concerning although there is no doubt he can score a ton.

 

[Kalv]

Looking forward to the next few weeks of going back and forth on whether I like Fantili or Carlsson more.

Same

As a hypocrite - said I was against tanking during season, and the last 10-15 games or so did a complete 180 - all I know is everyone that’s been a Ducks fan the past few years has suffered immensely no matter what your position on the tanking topic is, and a guaranteed top 3 pick is at the worst an amazing silver lining to a record breaking worst season. And to those who never cheered against the boys no matter the position, absolutely good on all ya - you have more integrity than me lol

That being said, after we get our guy this year (assuming it’s not Bedard) we’re still in a stronger position than other lottery teams to take a bigger step forward - no more looking towards tanking, I’m more concerned about development of current young players. And lottery will be hell of a sweat lol. Have a good summer guys

Same, pretty well said and how I feel about it. Really started hoping for a loss with two games left – cheered success on anyone of the young core but kind of hoped for bad bounces against us that'd make us lose. Not downright hoping we suck. Still felt dirty about it, glad it's over.

 

[HanSolo]

Stealing this from the Hawks forum.

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The Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) intends to develop rules that will regulate the departure of Russian players to the North American leagues, said Igor Esmantovich, president of the Moscow hockey club CSKA. The Board of Directors of the KHL is going to add the corresponding item to the league's development strategy.

“We would like to add programs for the non-departure of our players to America to the KHL strategy,” said Mr. Esmantovich ( TASS quote ). In addition, according to him, the KHL development strategy will include items regulating the service of hockey players in the Russian army.



In short: He basically says that there is so much friction between the West and the Russians that there might not be any players coming overseas to play hockey in NA anytime soon. The U.S. has done everything in its power to hurt the Russian economy for starting war with Ukraine, barring them from international events, and Michkov's dad dying in a suspicious way is cause for concern.
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While I don't think picking Michkov is the stupidest idea anyone's ever had there's definitely more than sufficient cause for concern. I still think a guy with Michkov's pedigree will see the NHL as the best opportunity for his financial future and legacy (e.g. Ovi, Geno, Kuch). But if Russia makes that impossible, it might not matter.

 

[dracom]

In short: He basically says that there is so much friction between the West and the Russians that there might not be any players coming overseas to play hockey in NA anytime soon. The U.S. has done everything in its power to hurt the Russian economy for starting war with Ukraine, barring them from international events, and Michkov's dad dying in a suspicious way is cause for concern.
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Yup, any team drafting Michkov is wasting their pick. Stay absolutely far away from him. The Russia propaganda that guy is spewing is crazy.

 

[ScarTroy]

Stealing this from the Hawks forum.

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The Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) intends to develop rules that will regulate the departure of Russian players to the North American leagues, said Igor Esmantovich, president of the Moscow hockey club CSKA. The Board of Directors of the KHL is going to add the corresponding item to the league's development strategy.

“We would like to add programs for the non-departure of our players to America to the KHL strategy,” said Mr. Esmantovich ( TASS quote ). In addition, according to him, the KHL development strategy will include items regulating the service of hockey players in the Russian army.



In short: He basically says that there is so much friction between the West and the Russians that there might not be any players coming overseas to play hockey in NA anytime soon. The U.S. has done everything in its power to hurt the Russian economy for starting war with Ukraine, barring them from international events, and Michkov's dad dying in a suspicious way is cause for concern.
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While I don't think picking Michkov is the stupidest idea anyone's ever had there's definitely more than sufficient cause for concern. I still think a guy with Michkov's pedigree will see the NHL as the best opportunity for his financial future and legacy (e.g. Ovi, Geno, Kuch). But if Russia makes that impossible, it might not matter.

Yeah and we’re certainly not the franchise that can take that gamble

 

[Gliff]

Stealing this from the Hawks forum.

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The Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) intends to develop rules that will regulate the departure of Russian players to the North American leagues, said Igor Esmantovich, president of the Moscow hockey club CSKA. The Board of Directors of the KHL is going to add the corresponding item to the league's development strategy.

“We would like to add programs for the non-departure of our players to America to the KHL strategy,” said Mr. Esmantovich ( TASS quote ). In addition, according to him, the KHL development strategy will include items regulating the service of hockey players in the Russian army.



In short: He basically says that there is so much friction between the West and the Russians that there might not be any players coming overseas to play hockey in NA anytime soon. The U.S. has done everything in its power to hurt the Russian economy for starting war with Ukraine, barring them from international events, and Michkov's dad dying in a suspicious way is cause for concern.
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While I don't think picking Michkov is the stupidest idea anyone's ever had there's definitely more than sufficient cause for concern. I still think a guy with Michkov's pedigree will see the NHL as the best opportunity for his financial future and legacy (e.g. Ovi, Geno, Kuch). But if Russia makes that impossible, it might not matter.

Ya no chance I take him over any of the other top 3. He is 100% do not draft with our first for me even if we fall to 3.

 

[HanSolo]

Yeah I was warming up to the idea of the Ducks taking him until I saw this post and started reading up on the potential ramifications of the current geopolitical climate on hockey. I think all told he has a very good argument to be considered the runaway second overall best prospect in the pool. But this isn't like not drafting Russians under Burke and Murray. This is legitimately playing Russian roulette (no pun intended) with the second or third overall pick and if the bullet is in the chamber you kill, arguably, the most premium selection slot in franchise history.

Fantilli and Carlsson's upside are plenty high enough for me to take a pass on Michkov and not regret it.

 

[Fighter]

I think the same, there far too many problems around Minchkov that using a top 3 pick in THIS kind of talent pool is not a good idea at all.

Kid would turn out great... If he manages to come over in NA but that's the main problem. Iron Curtain all over again...

 

[Leonardo87]

I’ve been watching Carlsson highlights. Going to most likely end up with him, which is not a bad thing, him and Fantilli are very close. Prize is Bedard of course, but if the history of the lottery has shown anything with Anaheim, trying to be realistic, and not get my hopes up.

 

[DavidBL]

I think the same, there far too many problems around Minchkov that using a top 3 pick in THIS kind of talent pool is not a good idea at all.

Kid would turn out great... If he manages to come over in NA but that's the main problem. Iron Curtain all over again...

I'd take him with a 2nd rounder if he manages to fall that far given the current issues.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Someone will draft Michkov and they will reap the rewards. All they have to do is be patient

 

[Bender66]

i think chi might go for it

 

[HanSolo]

Someone will draft Michkov and they will reap the rewards. All they have to do is be patient

I think we'll be okay.

i think chi might go for it

Personally if they're drafting no.2 I can't stop thinking that they'd take Fantilli. I can see them going for Michkov over Carlsson though.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Anyone planning on going to the draft?

I’ll be there but it’s only a 30 min drive for me.

We'll need a Captain Baldy report. Keep an eye on if he is paling around with Trotz or if he goes anywhere near the Ducks table.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I see a little bit of Backstrom in Carlsson's game, if he gets anywhere close to that, would be insane. Not going to wow you superficially all the time maybe, but someone you just makes all the right plays to create offense in a somewhat subtle way. He's even bigger than Backstrom as well (have always been a huge fan of Backstrom and his cerebral style)

 

[JonathnTaylorTavares]

It’s going to be a tough decision for whoever picks 4th. Not our problem

 

[tomd]

Really no need to take Michkov with the talent of the top 3. The team that drafts 4th has a huge decision to make. Glad it isn't going to be the Ducks.

 

[wesott11]

Anyone planning on going to the draft?

I’ll be there but it’s only a 30 min drive for me.

I’m pretty sure I’m going. I don’t want to miss this draft. Last draft I went to was in LA when we drafted Fowler and Etem. I don’t want to miss that excitement again.

 

[Gliff]

We'll need a Captain Baldy report. Keep an eye on if he is paling around with Trotz or if he goes anywhere near the Ducks table.

If I see that gleaming head I'll keep an eye on him.

I’m pretty sure I’m going. I don’t want to miss this draft. Last draft I went to was in LA when we drafted Fowler and Etem. I don’t want to miss that excitement again.

I was going to go anyways, but a top 3 pick..... I told me wife I dont care how much the tickets are.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I don't see this Ukraine-Russia conflict ending any time soon. On Russia's end, things seem to be escalating for its own citizens - required enlistment or passport will be confiscated is the most recent report.

The longer the conflict, the more I'm dissuaded from drafting any Russian, tbh. And I like Michkov, hope that Simashev falls to the 2nd round or maybe But.

I’ve seen the fruits of dealing with the complex situation that drafting a superstar Russian player return first hand, and it’s more than worth it. It’s an emotionally taxing process, but Michkov is that dude. Kaprizov didn’t come over until he was 23. Michkov will most likely be here when he’s 21. Not to mention, Michkov blows kk97 out of the water at the same age. Michkov, imo, is the best Russian prospect since Ovechkin. I wouldn’t mess around, and if he had a Canadian passport I’d consider taking him at #2.