Anaheim4ever
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Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)
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- Apr 17, 2017
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Definitely in the spot to be. As others have said, worst case you pick third and get a #1 overall calibre in Fantilli or Carlsson- not to mention a coin flip chance at Bedard who is generational.
I think Edmonton winning all those times is proof there isn’t any shenanigans. Bet you Bettman was punching walls after they got McDavid.
What a way to end the season. The good thing about hitting rock bottom is the only way to go is up. Any of these Top 3 guys will be a great addition, especially with the crop of D-man ready to make the jump in the next couple years.
Gonna be a tense, but exciting, few weeks.
Gonna be a tense, but exciting, few weeks.
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El Zilcho
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I'm gonna get to watch him tonight. Very intrigued by him. I'm not really sure why a draft eligible defender with his stat line isn't getting more hype.
Here is some stuff on Fantilli and Carlsson NHL potential from the hockey writers..
Fantilli:
That element of power and relentlessness is makes it easy to project Fantilli as a difference-maker as a top six forward in the NHL. His combination of hard and soft skills paint the picture of a player that should become a top-tier top line center in the NHL at his peak. Even if he doesn’t hit his highest potential, he still has one of the highest floors in the 2023 draft class; it’s not unreasonable to suggest that, at the very least, he’ll develop into one of the best second line centers in the NHL, and that’s the worst-case scenario.
Carlsson:
There isn’t any doubt that Carlsson is going to be an impactful player in the NHL one day. Whether it’s at centre or on the wing remains to be seen. The combination of his high-end skill, hockey IQ and two-way abilities in all three zones will have teams line up for his services. He can potentially be an all-situations kind of player– effective at five-on-five, a power play specialist– he can do it all and would still be able to put up strong offensive numbers. The fact the he continues to thrive against men as a teenager shows that his ceiling is high.
Fantilli:
That element of power and relentlessness is makes it easy to project Fantilli as a difference-maker as a top six forward in the NHL. His combination of hard and soft skills paint the picture of a player that should become a top-tier top line center in the NHL at his peak. Even if he doesn’t hit his highest potential, he still has one of the highest floors in the 2023 draft class; it’s not unreasonable to suggest that, at the very least, he’ll develop into one of the best second line centers in the NHL, and that’s the worst-case scenario.
Carlsson:
There isn’t any doubt that Carlsson is going to be an impactful player in the NHL one day. Whether it’s at centre or on the wing remains to be seen. The combination of his high-end skill, hockey IQ and two-way abilities in all three zones will have teams line up for his services. He can potentially be an all-situations kind of player– effective at five-on-five, a power play specialist– he can do it all and would still be able to put up strong offensive numbers. The fact the he continues to thrive against men as a teenager shows that his ceiling is high.
Vipers31
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Agreed. At the end of the day, there’s 32 multi- or near-billion dollar businesses in this league, and all of them want any juicy piece of pie they can get, so they’ll demand at least internal transparency to make sure they get what’s theirs. The only way this could be rigged is a big conspiracy in which all these businesses agreed beforehand to go with some kind of script created by the league, and there’s absolutely zero way the league would have scripted McDavid going to Edmonton, among other things. It’s just plain old, boring randomness.
Hockey Duckie
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Isn't sad to acknowledge where ahead of many other rebuild teams, but we've finished last in the league? That means our team was gutted and those talents were never replaced. We relied on our youths and a couple of returning vets to carry the abundance of the load: Z, Terry, McTavish, Fowler, and Rico. The tank job started at last year's TDL. It's a masterful job that Verbeek did as he didn't care about defense nor physicality. Mission accomplished on getting one Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson.
I'm probably in the minuscule minority in stating Verbeek reset the rebuild, it's gonna be years until we become competitive for the playoffs, and that Verbeek didn't care about our defense for this season. That's why I was never upset at this season b/c I already knew it was going to be terri-bad.
Verbeek needs to improve his pro scouting and roster balance b/c there's a lot of red flags right now.
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Just going to say…. My sons bday is on draft lottery day….
It’s got to be fate right, we getting #1
It’s got to be fate right, we getting #1
100% this
75% chance of not getting Bedard makes it the overwhelmingly most likely scenario. It's nice to hope but I think it's better for all involved if people just wrap their heads around not getting the top prize and allowing to be pleasantly surprise if luck does go our way. I think it's fine to be disappointed if it doesn't happen but anyone mad because they think we were entitled to Bedard or destined to get him set themselves up for extra disappointment. We're guaranteed a top notch consolation prize. That should be the focus.
Is there a chance that Michkov defects/can get out of his KHL contract? He seems like the second most skilled player in the draft but obviously there's some risk with picking him top 3.
Sorry if this has been asked - I'm not on here very often.
Sorry if this has been asked - I'm not on here very often.
Dr Johnny Fever
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People need to understand it's a mathematical long shot to get Bedard. No need whining or bitching about it. It's math, plain and simple.
That said, the positive to all this is that either we will get Bedard or we will have a franchise #1C for the next 15 years. How awesome is that?
It's a great day to be a Ducks fan!
That said, the positive to all this is that either we will get Bedard or we will have a franchise #1C for the next 15 years. How awesome is that?
It's a great day to be a Ducks fan!
Terry Yake
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the team he plays for is owned by the biggest natural gas company in the world and rumor is they're going to be willing to empty out their pockets to do whatever they can to keep him there. that, and the current political climate between russia and the US makes for a very uncertain situation
i would have been willing to take him at #4 or 5 if he was still on the board, but if they draft at #2 or #3 there's no way you pass up on someone who would be able to play immediately. can't see verbeek taking michkov at 2 or 3 unless there's already 100% confirmation that he'll come over
Yesterday it didn’t feel like it. Today? F yeah! lol
hotcabbagesoup
"I'm going to get what I deserve" -RutgerMcgroarty
what us this image from? it seems faniliar to me but i can put my fibger on it
Yeah, I think I agree that we are still several years away, and that's not good. We just finished a fifth straight season of bad and barely any of the interesting players on our roster had years I could describe as "a step forward." Mostly just McTavish.
At least any of the top 3(4*) in this draft step in immediately as the best talent in the organization.
Dr Johnny Fever
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Fantilli, Hobey Baker winner, undecided on future ahead of 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com
Center not sure if he'll return to Michigan for sophomore season
www.nhl.com
Interesting comment from Fantilli. Sounds like he's going to see who drafts him before he decides if he turns pro or goes back to school. I wonder how he feels about us? Obviously it will make no difference to any team drafting him.
Ducks DVM
sowcufucakky
Ducks DVM
sowcufucakky
Is that “will my team suck” or “Will my team suck forever”? Easy road to NHL time with all 3.Fantilli, Hobey Baker winner, undecided on future ahead of 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com
Center not sure if he'll return to Michigan for sophomore season
Interesting comment from Fantilli. Sounds like he's going to see who drafts him before he decides if he turns pro or goes back to school. I wonder how he feels about us? Obviously it will make no difference to any team drafting him.
WhatTheDuck
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If he gets drafted by Arizona, he'd rather stay at the university he chose to attend.
It's one of those things that he's better advised to leave open ended for now if asked, but I'm still fully expecting to see him in the NHL next year.
Dr Johnny Fever
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But if he has enough money, he could probably get his kid drafted into the OHL.The Ducks are NOT drafting your son. Maybe if the draft still went 9+rounds…
Investigation Uncovers Parents Paying OHL To Draft Their Sons - The Hockey Focus
OHL Commissioner David Branch confirms league hired an investigator to probe allegations that several hockey parents paid for their sons to be selected in
www.tjhpodcast.com
Dr Johnny Fever
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For sure on your first point. I would probably agree on the second as well.
I would think that if he landed here he would have to be pretty excited to be joining a core of young and very talented players along with a total reset geared toward a brighter future. Hard not to want to get going now...and oh by the way...make a million $$$ or more next year. Ahhh, life is good!
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Guys, how did they pull it off?! I thought they'd be drafting 6th for sure.
Beyond excited for a top 3 pick, but gotta say, I'm a lot less enthused about Carlsson than Fantilli, so hoping Carlsson fans can get me more hyped, considering it seems most likely we end up with him.
Bedard is Bedard. That skating and elite shot is a dream. And love that he's got some personality and edge to him. And wouldn't matter if he ends up a winger for us.
Fantilli looks to be exactly what the Ducks are lacking. Physicality, great shot, work ethic, and he's got that sandpaper grit that I really think we need. Love a guy with that kind of pride. He would really round out that forward core.
Michkov also has that elite shot and chip on his shoulder. And we're one of the few teams where it isn't a con that he's a winger.
Carlsson has great size and IQ, but we already have Zegras and Terry with an emphasis on that great passing ability. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing, but he just doesn't seem nearly as good of a fit for us. Maybe I'm a little biased towards NA players. One for one, I would 100% take Michkov over him. But obviously the Russian factor changes things. Kind of a bummer.
Beyond excited for a top 3 pick, but gotta say, I'm a lot less enthused about Carlsson than Fantilli, so hoping Carlsson fans can get me more hyped, considering it seems most likely we end up with him.
Bedard is Bedard. That skating and elite shot is a dream. And love that he's got some personality and edge to him. And wouldn't matter if he ends up a winger for us.
Fantilli looks to be exactly what the Ducks are lacking. Physicality, great shot, work ethic, and he's got that sandpaper grit that I really think we need. Love a guy with that kind of pride. He would really round out that forward core.
Michkov also has that elite shot and chip on his shoulder. And we're one of the few teams where it isn't a con that he's a winger.
Carlsson has great size and IQ, but we already have Zegras and Terry with an emphasis on that great passing ability. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing, but he just doesn't seem nearly as good of a fit for us. Maybe I'm a little biased towards NA players. One for one, I would 100% take Michkov over him. But obviously the Russian factor changes things. Kind of a bummer.
hotcabbagesoup
"I'm going to get what I deserve" -RutgerMcgroarty
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Fantilli, Hobey Baker winner, undecided on future ahead of 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com
Center not sure if he'll return to Michigan for sophomore season
Interesting comment from Fantilli. Sounds like he's going to see who drafts him before he decides if he turns pro or goes back to school. I wonder how he feels about us? Obviously it will make no difference to any team drafting him.
If you read Wheeler's article on Fantilli and then read this, then I think he's got a lot for him on going back to Michigan for one more season. It's one more year to play with his brother as well as continue to overripen like other Wolverines before him like Power, Beniers, Johnson, and the Hughes.
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