Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

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[Hockey Duckie]

If we walk away from the draft with one of bedard, michov or fantilli I will be pumped. I need someone to talk me into Carlsson as my guy tells me that’s who we end up with.

There's plenty to like about Carlsson. He knows how to play a 200 ft game against men as well as knows so many subtleties of the game that we like about McTavish. Here's a Mar 5, 2023 scouting report by the Hockey Writers: link.

Here's a snapshot of under-19 years old in the SHL that I took today, Mar 10, 2023.

Those players without a team implies they haven't been drafted. Kasper was drafted 8th overall in last year's draft, an April birth month. Bystedt went 27th overall in last year's draft and turned 19 years old in Feb. Carlsson turned 18 in Dec.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with drafting Carlsson in the top-3/4. He's also the biggest out of Bedard, Michkov, and Fantilli at 6'3 and 194 lbs. Carlsson may only need a year extra in the SHL before coming over, honing skills with a top team in the SHL.

 

[HunterDuck]

Gibson doesn’t want us to draft anyone good and he won’t even help us win a Cup either. This sucks. Fck.

 

[ff8]

Any 6’4 role player type guys available at pick 10?

 

[cheesymc]

Gibson doesn’t want us to draft anyone good and he won’t even help us win a Cup either. This sucks. Fck.

Sounds about right, Gibby is spiteful. Haha that would be his motivation… to play on fire until Verbeek pulls the plug.

 

[HunterDuck]

Sounds about right, Gibby is spiteful. Haha that would be his motivation… to play on fire until Verbeek pulls the plug.

I’m just butthurt, I love Gibby but now he has to spend the rest of his career with us if he spoils the tank

 

[LePerilsofPerreault]

About time to get to watching Zach Benson shift-by-shifts on yt, not sure if he’s a Verbeek player tho.

Edit: apparently he hurt his arm tonight. Goodnight ya’ll.

 

[cheesymc]

I’m just butthurt, I love Gibby but now he has to spend the rest of his career with us if he spoils the tank

Nah, he’s only going to play well now and crap the bed early next season when he sees Verbeeks defensive lineup of a bunch of Priskies and Sustrs for entire 23/24 season. Especially after hearing Verbeeks interview of “never trading his #1 goalie since there so difficult to find.”

He will play so bad that no team would want him and force Verbeek to buy out his contract like we did Perry.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Gibson doesn’t want us to draft anyone good and he won’t even help us win a Cup either. This sucks. Fck.

Gibson did help land Zegras, Drysdale, top-3 rounds of the 2021 draft class (we get the top pick in each round - McTavish, Zellweger, and Pastujov), and Mintyukov.

We're currently the 4th worst team in the league. There's a case for a good top-6:

Bedard
--- tier 2 ---
Michkov, Fantilli, Carlsson
--- tier 3 ---
Benson, Will Smith (not the slapper)

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If we walk away from the draft with one of bedard, michov or fantilli I will be pumped. I need someone to talk me into Carlsson as my guy tells me that’s who we end up with.

Another piece of evidence...

 

[Son of Gib]

Ain't gettin Carlsson.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Draft Lardis, he will save the ducks

 

[JabbaJabba]

If the Ducks drop out of top 5, then they could consider taking Reinbacher. Big and mobile RD could be what that defense needs in the future.

 

[AngelDuck]

Will Smith is my guy outside of the top 4. He has everything you want in a forward

 

[AngelDuck]

I understand drafting for need is stupid and I’m not advocating for it, but man, we are so organizationally weak at the wing position right now. Outside of Terry there is just nothing to get excited about there.

This draft is a golden opportunity to change that potentially

It feels like our defense is going to work itself out in the next 2 years and we’re okay down the middle(although I definitely want another skilled center prospect)

 

[Leonardo87]

Will Smith is my guy outside of the top 4. He has everything you want in a forward

Will have a lot of fun with those memes lol

In all seriousness, this draft is stacked. Top 3 of course is ideal but picking 4th or 5th will still get a player who is projected to be better than all of our current kids. So yeah. Good stuff .

 

[Anarchynate]

Draft Lardis, he will save the ducks

Big on this kid. I’d use our first second on him

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[AngelDuck]

The obvious choice at 2nd overall IMO. Great player

 

[Leonardo87]

The obvious choice at 2nd overall IMO. Great player

I’m cool landing Carlsson if we can even get to 3rd at this point. I think his transition to the NHL will be the smoothest since he’s already playing against men in his league.

 

[Kalv]

I’m cool landing Carlsson if we can even get to 3rd at this point. I think his transition to the NHL will be the smoothest since he’s already playing against men in his league.

As we're falling off the top (or, you know, climbing up from the last place ), picking 3rd seems very unlikely as of now because SJ, CHI and CBJ are at their own level of suck this year, and given they keep doing that, we will probably not be in that trio. Which means much more likely we'll be 4,5, or 6... which means we can either pick 1st, 2nd, 4th (only if we finish 4th worst), 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, but not 3rd.

Edit: ofc Carlsson might fall to 4th as well, depending on how teams view Mitchkov. Damn, I hope Arizona and Montreal start winning more

 

[Leonardo87]

As we're falling off the top (or, you know, climbing up from the last place ), picking 3rd seems very unlikely because SJ, CHI and CBJ are at their own level of suck this year, and given they keep doing that, we will probably not be in that trio. Which means much more likely we'll be 4,5, or 6... which means we can either pick 1st, 2nd, 4th (only if we finish 4th worst), 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th.

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I think the only way to get Carlsson is if someone takes Michkov at 3rd, and Carlsson falls to 4th, and we don’t move down.

We could also end up 3rd last in the league and don’t fall or fall one spot and same scenario as before. Michkov apparently is right behind Bedard in regards to skill and potential, from what I’ve read.

 

[Kalv]

I think the only way to get Carlsson is if someone takes Michkov at 3rd, and Carlsson falls to 4th, and we don’t move down.

We could also end up 3rd last in the league and don’t fall or fall one spot and same scenario as before. Michkov apparently is right behind Bedard in regards to skill and potential, from what I’ve read.

Yep, agreed.

Personally I'm not holding my breath for that top3 pick, unless we win 1st or 2nd in the lottery

 

[Leonardo87]

Yep, agreed.

Personally I'm not holding my breath for that top3 pick, unless we win 1st or 2nd in the lottery

Yeah, like I’ve said in the tank thread won’t root for us to lose, will just hope other teams win and jump us, but at the same time, I like how this team team is battling, good for our current kids. But I look at the bigger picture and we really need at worst a Top 5 pick in this draft, Top 3 would be ideal of course but that means dead last to guarantee that, and that’s not happening.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Yeah, like I’ve said in the tank thread won’t root for us to lose, will just hope other teams win and jump us, but at the same time, I like how this team team is battling, good for our current kids. But I look at the bigger picture and we really need at worst a Top 5 pick in this draft, Top 3 would be ideal of course but that means dead last to guarantee that, and that’s not happening.

We are practically set with our top-2 centers with Zegras and McTavish. McTavish solidified his top-6C position this year as he's passed up Getz' production last year. Getz had 37 points and -14 in 56 games; McTavish has 38 points in 65 games and still healthy enough to play an additional 16 games (despite hitting the rookie wall around game 50). We're still trying to find consistency with our 3C with Lundy, but there's Gaucher in the pipeline. We are ahead of most rebuild teams as we're already built down the middle. We also have a 1RW in Terry. Anaheim's top-6 is that far ahead of several rebuild teams.

Any top-6 pick forward in this year's draft is going to be our best forward prospect instantly. Hell, any top-10 pick forward will probably be the best forward prospect instantly.

Big picture is the differences between last year's team to start the year and this year's team is the defense with physicality, physicality, and a true PP coach. What both teams lack is talent depth.

A top-6 pick won't change our void on defense. A top-6 pick doesn't possess the talent to be defensively conscious until around 5 years after his draft year. Lundy was heralded as the most defensive minded forward in the draft that was NHL-ready and we're still waiting for him to be consistent five years later. Zegras is still learning how to play defense in his third pro season. McTavish is still learning the ropes in his first year as a pro, but further ahead of Zegras.

Anaheim has been playing with one top-4D all season in Fowler. That's it. We're just going to have to be patient on our blueline prospects to matriculate to the NHL level and mature, including Drysdale, who we lost for the season. While we don't have a #1D in our pipeline, we do have a potential surplus of 2nd pairing D to fill all six spots at the NHL level and a few more (especially if we're able to sign RD Moore) in the AHL level developing.

 

[Leonardo87]

Yeah I’m not as concerned with the Forward group we already have Zegras, McTavish, Terry, and Lundy here, then add hopefully a Top 5 pick to this draft, maybe bring in some prospects from SD that can make the NHL. Have some vet support and can have a solid Top 6.

Our defense is the biggest issue now, and like you said, gotta be patient, but the future looks very good.