Nope you'll have to start it with an Eiserman golden goal
It'll have to be the GTG instead.
Nope you'll have to start it with an Eiserman golden goal
Trending up to me from U18 viewings: Will Smith, Willander, Dvorsky, Hrabal, Hutson, Sandy Pelican, Danny Nelson, Stenberg, Cleveland, Augustine.
Leonard has shown the skill I'd hoped but he just gets buried so often playing his game at his size against peers, what happens at the next level?
Starting to think he won't translate in his current role: Perreault.
For the underagers obviously Celebrini, but Eiserman tries to be a one-man gang so often, like if Lysell could actually finish. But he's got enough size/speed to make it work at this level.
CarolinaDraft order is set other than the lottery and who the final 4 are
32 boston
31 carolina
30 Vegas
29 colorado
28 New Jersey
27 Toronto
26 Edmonton
25 dallas
24 rangers
23 LA
22 Minnesota
21 Seattle
20 tampa
19 winnipeg
18 Islanders
17 Florida
the final four teams pull out of that order and they compress down 29-30 conf final losers, 31 cup loser, 32 cup winner
can move up if they get win the power balls
16 Calgary
15 Nashville
14 Pittsburgh
13 Buffalo
12 Ottawa
bedard possible winners are
11 vancouver
10 st louis
9 washington
8 detroit
7 phildelphia
6 arizona
5 montreal
4 San jose
3 chicago
2 columbus
1 anaheim
they two winners move up appropriately and everyone else will move back that they pass.
Philadelphia pick is at 39. Buffalo at 45.
1 | Connor Bedard | C | CAN | Regina | WHL | - |
2 | Adam Fantilli | C | CAN | U. of Michigan | NCAA | - |
3 | Matvei Michkov | RW/LW | RUS | Sochi | KHL | - |
4 | Leo Carlsson | C/LW | SWE | Örebro | SHL | - |
5 | Will Smith | C | USA | U18 | NTDP | - |
6 | Zach Benson | LW | CAN | Winnipeg | WHL | - |
7 | Oliver Moore | C | USA | U18 | NTDP | Up 2 |
8 | Gabe Perreault | LW | USA | U18 | NTDP | Up 3 |
9 | Dalibor Dvorsky | C/LW | SVK | AIK | HockeyAllsvenskan | Down 1 |
10 | Matthew Wood | RW | CAN | UConn | NCAA | Up 2 |
11 | Ryan Leonard | RW | USA | U18 | NTDP | Up 4 |
12 | Eduard Sale | RW/LW | CZE | Brno | Czechia | Down 2 |
13 | Andrew Cristall | LW | CAN | Kelowna | WHL | Down 6 |
14 | Brayden Yager | C | CAN | Moose Jaw | WHL | Down 1 |
15 | David Reinbacher | RHD | AUT | Kloten | NL | Up 2 |
16 | Axel Sandin Pellikka | RHD | SWE | Skelleftea | SHL | Up 5 |
17 | Colby Barlow | LW/RW | CAN | Owen Sound | OHL | Down 3 |
18 | Quentin Musty | LW | USA | Sudbury | OHL | Up 2 |
19 | Calum Ritchie | C | CAN | Oshawa | OHL | - |
20 | Nate Danielson | C | CAN | Brandon | WHL | Up 2 |
21 | Riley Heidt | C | CAN | Prince George | WHL | Down 3 |
22 | Mikhail Gulyayev | LHD | RUS | Omskie | MHL | Down 6 |
23 | Bradly Nadeau | LW | CAN | Penticton | BCHL | Up 3 |
24 | Gavin Brindley | C/RW | USA | Michigan | NCAA | Up 1 |
25 | Samuel Honzek | LW | SVK | Vancouver | WHL | Up 2 |
26 | Daniil But | LW/RW | RUS | Yaroslavl | MHL | Up 5 |
27 | Jayden Perron | RW | CAN | Chicago | USHL | Up 1 |
28 | Ethan Gauthier | RW | CAN | Sherbrooke | QMJHL | Down 4 |
29 | Otto Stenberg | C/LW | SWE | Frolunda | J20 | Up 2 |
30 | Koehn Ziemmer | RW | CAN | Prince George | WHL | Down 7 |
31 | Etienne Morin | LHD | CAN | Moncton | QMJHL | Up 3 |
32 | Alex Ciernik | LW/RW | SVK | Södertälje | HockeyAllsvenskan | Down 2 |
Always a chance some team reaches on a pick. Seems to happen almost every year.Figures Sabres are drafting 13 when there's a tier of about 12 guys I'd be happy for them to draft in that slot (the top-7, Dvorsky, Wood, Leonard, Reinbacher, Pelican)
His positions on D are interesting.Wheeeler's new ranking, if anyone's interested
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Connor Bedard[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Regina[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Adam Fantilli[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]U. of Michigan[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Matvei Michkov[/TD]
[TD]RW/LW[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Sochi[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Leo Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Örebro[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Will Smith[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Zach Benson[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Winnipeg[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Oliver Moore[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Gabe Perreault[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Dalibor Dvorsky[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]AIK[/TD]
[TD]HockeyAllsvenskan[/TD]
[TD]Down 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Wood[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]UConn[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Leonard[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Eduard Sale[/TD]
[TD]RW/LW[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[TD]Brno[/TD]
[TD]Czechia[/TD]
[TD]Down 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Andrew Cristall[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Kelowna[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Brayden Yager[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Moose Jaw[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]David Reinbacher[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]AUT[/TD]
[TD]Kloten[/TD]
[TD]NL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Axel Sandin Pellikka[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Skelleftea[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Colby Barlow[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Owen Sound[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Quentin Musty[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]Sudbury[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Calum Ritchie[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Oshawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Nate Danielson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Brandon[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Riley Heidt[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Prince George[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Mikhail Gulyayev[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Omskie[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Bradly Nadeau[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Penticton[/TD]
[TD]BCHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Gavin Brindley[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]Michigan[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]Up 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]Samuel Honzek[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]Vancouver[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Daniil But[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslavl[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]Jayden Perron[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Chicago[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]Ethan Gauthier[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Sherbrooke[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]Otto Stenberg[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Frolunda[/TD]
[TD]J20[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]Koehn Ziemmer[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Prince George[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]Etienne Morin[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Moncton[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]Alex Ciernik[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]Södertälje[/TD]
[TD]HockeyAllsvenskan[/TD]
[TD]Down 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
BarlowFigures Sabres are drafting 13 when there's a tier of about 12 guys I'd be happy for them to draft in that slot (the top-7, Dvorsky, Wood, Leonard, Reinbacher, Pelican)
His Cristall ranking and assessment is interesting too. I'd kill to know what each team thinks of him -- I'm guessing there's a humungous range.His positions on D are interesting.
I'd be happy if I were you because at least one of those 12 will definitely fall -- probably more than one. Anyway, there could be 4 available and Adams still might not pick them, so it's probably not worth worrying about to begin with.Figures Sabres are drafting 13 when there's a tier of about 12 guys I'd be happy for them to draft in that slot (the top-7, Dvorsky, Wood, Leonard, Reinbacher, Pelican)
Yeah, 12 seems pretty arbitrary as far as tiers go.Barlow
I might even take Barlow over ASP and Wood and I love the name Matt Wood.Yeah, 12 seems pretty arbitrary as far as tiers go.
I agree and it would be a much easier choice for me too. No hesitation to take Barlow over either of them at allI might even take Barlow over ASP and Wood and I love the name Matt Wood.
Well I'd agree and also with Cristall. That's a 25ish pick to me.I agree and it would be a much easier choice for me too. No hesitation to take Barlow over either of them at all
(though defer to almost anyone since I can barely even sit through a full non-tournament game of any of these prospects these days).
When I look at that Wheeler list my feeling is between 7 and 17 anything could happen.Figures Sabres are drafting 13 when there's a tier of about 12 guys I'd be happy for them to draft in that slot (the top-7, Dvorsky, Wood, Leonard, Reinbacher, Pelican)
When I look at that Wheeler list my feeling is between 7 and 17 anything could happen.
Graphs for everything!! But it does let you see who’s stock has fallen and who’s has risen.
Haven't seen a ton of Barlow, but what I have seen my concerns are, another shooting winger, and the skating concerns. Leonard in the similar vein I've seen the skating and hands already. If you feel Barlow is clear BPA after it shakes out, sure, no issue, plus there's some sand there. If there's something close in evaluation to balance the pipeline I'd lean that way, I like Barlow but don't think his ceiling is as special as other guys in the top tiers, or rather I just haven't seen it yet.
Looks like a great year to trade the pick for defenseWheeeler's new ranking, if anyone's interested
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Connor Bedard[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Regina[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Adam Fantilli[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]U. of Michigan[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Matvei Michkov[/TD]
[TD]RW/LW[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Sochi[/TD]
[TD]KHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Leo Carlsson[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Örebro[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Will Smith[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Zach Benson[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Winnipeg[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Oliver Moore[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Gabe Perreault[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Dalibor Dvorsky[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]AIK[/TD]
[TD]HockeyAllsvenskan[/TD]
[TD]Down 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Wood[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]UConn[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Ryan Leonard[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]U18[/TD]
[TD]NTDP[/TD]
[TD]Up 4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Eduard Sale[/TD]
[TD]RW/LW[/TD]
[TD]CZE[/TD]
[TD]Brno[/TD]
[TD]Czechia[/TD]
[TD]Down 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Andrew Cristall[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Kelowna[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]Brayden Yager[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Moose Jaw[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]David Reinbacher[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]AUT[/TD]
[TD]Kloten[/TD]
[TD]NL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Axel Sandin Pellikka[/TD]
[TD]RHD[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Skelleftea[/TD]
[TD]SHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Colby Barlow[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Owen Sound[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Quentin Musty[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]Sudbury[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Calum Ritchie[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Oshawa[/TD]
[TD]OHL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]Nate Danielson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Brandon[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Riley Heidt[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Prince George[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Mikhail Gulyayev[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Omskie[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Bradly Nadeau[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Penticton[/TD]
[TD]BCHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Gavin Brindley[/TD]
[TD]C/RW[/TD]
[TD]USA[/TD]
[TD]Michigan[/TD]
[TD]NCAA[/TD]
[TD]Up 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]Samuel Honzek[/TD]
[TD]LW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]Vancouver[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Daniil But[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]RUS[/TD]
[TD]Yaroslavl[/TD]
[TD]MHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]Jayden Perron[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Chicago[/TD]
[TD]USHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]Ethan Gauthier[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Sherbrooke[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]Otto Stenberg[/TD]
[TD]C/LW[/TD]
[TD]SWE[/TD]
[TD]Frolunda[/TD]
[TD]J20[/TD]
[TD]Up 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]Koehn Ziemmer[/TD]
[TD]RW[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Prince George[/TD]
[TD]WHL[/TD]
[TD]Down 7[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]Etienne Morin[/TD]
[TD]LHD[/TD]
[TD]CAN[/TD]
[TD]Moncton[/TD]
[TD]QMJHL[/TD]
[TD]Up 3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]Alex Ciernik[/TD]
[TD]LW/RW[/TD]
[TD]SVK[/TD]
[TD]Södertälje[/TD]
[TD]HockeyAllsvenskan[/TD]
[TD]Down 2[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Looks like a great year to trade the pick for defense
Leonard is the better physical player at this point.
Damn you for selling a player so well that we definitely aren’t getting!