2023 NHL Draft June 28 and 29, Nashville, TN (Selections - 13, 39, 45, 86, 109, 141, 173, 205)

[Old Navy Goat]

Musty is very much like Geekie last year in that self-motivation seems to be highly inconsistent. I want to really like him as the tools are tantalising but I feel that most games he'll just leave you wanting more which is a character flaw KA steers away from in his picks

 

[Chainshot]

My biggest gripe with Musty is that he doesn't seem motivated most games, but when he's dialed in and engaged, his game is power forward-esque. The traits are there and I'd hedge a bet that's what he'll become with maturity and proper development.

Musty is very much like Geekie last year in that self-motivation seems to be highly inconsistent. I want to really like him as the tools are tantalising but I feel that most games he'll just leave you wanting more which is a character flaw KA steers away from in his picks

Geekie is the very guy who has skills to take over a game but still needs something external to find the ignition to get going. Musty's got such terrible body language and that sort of thing gives me pause. I get the local connection and there are some skills there... but without knowing more about him and why the visuals of his struggles match up with some of the commentary about coachability and effort and his effect on his teammates, I'm more likely to pass on him on draft day if I don't know what else is going on.

 

[truthbluth]

Undersized with nonelite skating generally isn't a good combination. I can't see him lasting past ~25ish and wouldn't be surprised if a team grabbed him late teens as his skating should improve with strength and technique but you can't teach offensive Instincts

Debrincat 2.

 

[Gabrielor]

Geekie is the very guy who has skills to take over a game but still needs something external to find the ignition to get going. Musty's got such terrible body language and that sort of thing gives me pause. I get the local connection and there are some skills there... but without knowing more about him and why the visuals of his struggles match up with some of the commentary about coachability and effort and his effect on his teammates, I'm more likely to pass on him on draft day if I don't know what else is going on.

I have trouble trusting Musty. No consistency.

If he's our pick though, I'll end up justifying it as 'Adams should know this player well I guess'

As purely a set of attributes, he's what Buffalo will be looking for.


I really want this pick to be D focused though. Either draft one, or better, trade it for a now guy

 

[Chainshot]

I have trouble trusting Musty. No consistency.

If he's our pick though, I'll end up justifying it as 'Adams should know this player well I guess'

As purely a set of attributes, he's what Buffalo will be looking for.


I really want this pick to be D focused though. Either draft one, or better, trade it for a now guy

If Musty wasn't from WNY, I don't know if he even comes up in Buffalo conversation honestly.

If they make it in and stay to 17 or 18 in the selection order, I almost wonder if the strategy for draft day is to look for a faller and if not there, perhaps look to slide back to stock a couple more picks, giving them some flexibility in making a picks-for-defenseman move and still stay in the late 2nd and/or get back into the 3rd round.

 

[Chainshot]

Bedard article -

 

[Gabrielor]

If Musty wasn't from WNY, I don't know if he even comes up in Buffalo conversation honestly.

If they make it in and stay to 17 or 18 in the selection order, I almost wonder if the strategy for draft day is to look for a faller and if not there, perhaps look to slide back to stock a couple more picks, giving them some flexibility in making a picks-for-defenseman move and still stay in the late 2nd and/or get back into the 3rd round.

Good point. Good year to trade back.

 

[Chainshot]

Good point. Good year to trade back.

It doesn't even have to be far. Right now they sit with 40 (Risto pick) and 49 in the 2nd round, then nothing until 88 (Portillo pick).

 

[Chainshot]

Some ink about Bertucci who I like toward the end of round 2 right now:

Bertucci Developing into Big Piece for Firebirds

There was a period last spring where Tristan Bertucci, the seventh overall pick of the 2021 OHL Priority Selection, was a healthy scratch during the OHL Playoffs.

www.oursportscentral.com

 

[EichHart]

What dman should I start looking at with our 1st pick?

 

[The Blunder Years]

What dman should I start looking at with our 1st pick?

Haven’t really done much research yet as I usually wait until spring/early summer to start watching prospect highlights so take this all with a grain of salt. Other posters would definitely have more insightful takes.

From what I can see Reinbacher is the number 1 D that will probably be gone well before us. He’s awesome.

Pellikka is a smaller mobile RHD that likely goes in the middle of the 1st, so probably gone before us.

Guyayev is a small offensive LHD slated mid 1st at the moment.

Dragicevic is a RHD that some teams will love and some will hate. He’s all offense and from what I’ve seen is pretty rough in his own end. Could go back half of the 1st.

Simashev is a big LHD that is more of a defensive d. Haven’t watched him much yet but seems like he’s slotted in the second half of the first at the moment.

This draft class is pretty solid for forward prospects but seems like nothing crazy at defense.

 

[Chainshot]

What dman should I start looking at with our 1st pick?

Also pages of content already covering that very topic in this thread.

 

[Chainshot]

Way out of my price range.

 

[Chainshot]

Pronman revisions:



-Has gotten on the Reinbacher train and has him at 7.
-Has my tall lad DBut at 8.
-Has Benson all the way down at 13, which given Pronman's history of liking small/skatie/skill guys is rather a surprise.
-Has Simashev at 17.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Pronman revisions:



-Has gotten on the Reinbacher train and has him at 7.
-Has my tall lad DBut at 8.
-Has Benson all the way down at 13, which given Pronman's history of liking small/skatie/skill guys is rather a surprise.
-Has Simashev at 17.

DB50 not only in the top 10, but has an Alex Tuch comparison attached

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Who'd a thunk that Pronman would look at his rankings compared to previous drafts and realise his small, spinny spinny skate fast to nowhere but look good doing it players aren't a high priority. I could understand dropping Kristall but Benson is an entirely different beast.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

My image is also a good illustration of why I think the depth of this draft is overrated. Good prospect in the late teens and 20s for sure, but no one that I’m as excited about as even last year (lambert falling, bischel, snuggerud)

Last year had incredible depth.

 

[elchud]

If we are at #10 (that's as high as we can theoretically pick, unless lottery miracle) and Benson is still on the board how can you not pick him.

 

[elchud]

-I've got a strong top-10 in this draft, with Reinbacher now at 8. I've got Yager and Danielson at 9 or 10, but they could/should be available in the 11-15 range (where I think we will pick), so would be really happy with either of them.

Here's my top-15.

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Michkov
Smith
Benson
Sale
Reinbacher
Yager
Danielson
(gap here, I think top-10 are all can't miss 1st line/1st pair guys)
Dvorsky
Wood
Dragicevic
Moore
Leonard

If we miss the playoffs, we're going to get one of the above.

Simashev is somewhere in my next tier, I don't really have them ranked but it's something like

Barlow
Heidt
Simashev
Cristall
Musty
Ritchie

After Ritchie, it's a jumble. Top 1-10, slam dunks. 11-21, high ceilings with some red flags and uncertainty, basically.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

If we are at #10 (that's as high as we can theoretically pick, unless lottery miracle) and Benson is still on the board how can you not pick him.

At this point I'm eyeing up the #10 spot more than playoffs, but I doubt Benson drops that far. I'm going to hold out hope for Reinbacher though. If he's available at whatever spot Buffalo drafts, I'm assuming he's both BPA and top position of need...win-win.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

I don’t get the Dragicevic hate. If Reinbacher is gone in the top 10 Drago will be gone within the next 5-8 picks. He’s a record setting RHD with size and snarl and they myths of him playing bad in his own end are drastically overblown. He’s got top pairing potential and a #4 floor. He’s exactly what we need.

 

[Chainshot]

I don’t get the Dragicevic hate. If Reinbacher is gone in the top 10 Drago will be gone within the next 5-8 picks. He’s a record setting RHD with size and snarl and they myths of him playing bad in his own end are drastically overblown. He’s got top pairing potential and a #4 floor. He’s exactly what we need.

Hate where? Here in this thread? Or in general?

 

[Gabrielor]

Hate where? Here in this thread? Or in general?

He's had a healthy amount of disdain from the nhl prospects forum.

1st/2nd Round Do Not Draft List

Teams always create a DND list for the upcoming draft. Whether its skills and abilities issues, or off- ice concerns. Strictly for the 1st and 2nd round, curious to see if you have anyone on your Do not Draft list and why For me: Mathew Wood- skating issues are a huge red flag for me. I...

forums.hfboards.com

Here, for instance.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Hate where? Here in this thread? Or in general?

Mostly in general. Strong word usage there that probably wasn’t necessary.

 

[EichHart]

A couple more losses and I'm hopping back in here.