2023 NHL Draft June 28 and 29, Nashville, TN (Selections - 13, 39, 45, 86, 109, 141, 173, 205)

[Zach716]

Is there anything out there except for speculation that Washington specifically would never let Michkov get past them?

FWIW I don’t think Washington will even have the option, but there’s a chance Michkov and Ovechkin won’t even get to play at the same time given Ovi’s age and Michkov’s contract.

 

[Ace]

Final NHL.com mock draft is out

One has Benson falling to us. The other has us taking Wood.

I would like one of those a lot more than the other.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Low balling his value on purpose, I don’t have faith he’ll fetch much

I like the way you think on this, I was just shocked. I'd maybe try to angle for a 2nd in 2024 instead of 2023 to see if that changes anything, but fine if he can't make it happen.

 

[Fjordy]

Is there anything out there except for speculation that Washington specifically would never let Michkov get past them?

FWIW I don’t think Washington will even have the option, but there’s a chance Michkov and Ovechkin won’t even get to play at the same time given Ovi’s age and Michkov’s contract.

Well, he could be the new Ovi for them. Washington always chooses a lot of Russians. But suppose Washington takes someone else, how will this help them in the next 1-2 years? No way, so they can easily take Michkov. In general, I would take Nikolishin's words very seriously, he has a very good reputation and, by the way, he is a Washington scout. He's not the first to talk about Michkov's troubles, and if that's true, Adams won't take on a player with that kind of character and attitude.

Either Nikolishin specifically said this so that Michkov would fall to 8.

 

[Irie]

Either Nikolishin specifically said this so that Michkov would fall to 8.

I guess if he drops to 8 and Washington takes him, we will have our answer.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

KA is not going to take an attitude problem (not even as a flyer) so let the dream end there, sorry @Gabrielor ...of course someone could be planting the stories to make him fall...but it sounds like it's the predominant feeling.

 

[Gabrielor]

KA is not going to take an attitude problem (not even as a flyer) so let the dream end there, sorry @Gabrielor ...of course someone could be planting the stories to make him fall...but it sounds like it's the predominant feeling.

Adams is in a win-win for me. This won't be a Rossi situation.

If Michkov falls near/to us, and we take him, I go berserk with happiness.

If Michkov is taken before us, makes sense.

If Michkov falls to us, and we pass, I'll fully believe Adams did his due diligence and Michkov either is an issue, or isn't coming to America.

Adams has earned that drafting rope.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

KA is not going to take an attitude problem (not even as a flyer) so let the dream end there, sorry @Gabrielor ...of course someone could be planting the stories to make him fall...but it sounds like it's the predominant feeling.

Who says he has an attitude problem?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

It’s kinda funny, this is the second year in a row where everyone is waiting to see what MTL does, as they’re once again in another pickle of a situation with too many options. They have such a small team already that Mitchkov has got to be a particular difficult choice for them - and he’s a difficult choice to begin with.

I think they should’ve went w Cooley last year, and this they should go with Barlow or Leonard or someone like that this year.

 

[Faceboner]

It’s kinda funny, this is the second year in a row where everyone is waiting to see what MTL does, as they’re once again in another pickle of a situation with too many options. They have such a small team already that Mitchkov has got to be a particular difficult choice for them - and he’s a difficult choice to begin with.

I think they should’ve went w Cooley last year, and this they should go with Barlow or Leonard or someone like that this year.

They actually might go leonard or benson if the sharks take smith

 

[MarkusKetterer]

It’s kinda funny, this is the second year in a row where everyone is waiting to see what MTL does, as they’re once again in another pickle of a situation with too many options. They have such a small team already that Mitchkov has got to be a particular difficult choice for them - and he’s a difficult choice to begin with.

I think they should’ve went w Cooley last year, and this they should go with Barlow or Leonard or someone like that this year.

Leonard is not getting past the Flyers. Just like last year where Gauthier wasn’t getting past them.

And as for now, I’m still on the Gauthier > Savoie train.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Who says he has an attitude problem?

Many scouts per a page or so back

 

[Zman5778]

Scouts per a page or so back

Don't mistake rumors for fact. This is lying season.

 

[Gabrielor]

Don't mistake rumors for fact. This is lying season.

2022 Sabres pick Danila Yurov likes your comment.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Many scouts per a page or so back

I probably blocked the people posting this -- is anyone able to summarize or re-post?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I probably blocked the people posting this -- is anyone able to summarize or re-post?

Former NHLer Andrei Nikolishin said that he has attitude problems and is basically uncoachable.

EDIT:

Andrey Nikolishin told how Matvei Michkov is evaluated in the NHL.

According to experts, the Russian striker is seen as a contender for the choice in the top 5 in the NHL draft.

“For me, he is first or second in terms of skill in the draft.

But in terms of character, in relation to teammates, coaching staff, management, fans - the person has now fallen very low in the eyes of all scouts, all managers. It has nothing to do with tragedy.

The information is collected about the player - about how he talks with partners, how he communicates with coaches, how he behaves off the ice. And here is Matvei...

You can reveal many nuances. I can show the correspondence when I wanted to meet him and, being a scout, ask a few questions, do an interview, how he answers.

I have never seen such disrespect for other people in my life, ”said Andrey Nikolishin, a former striker of the Russian national team.

That’s what @Fjordy said, but take it with a grain of salt. Nikolishin is a scout for the Capitals.

 

[Zman5778]

I probably blocked the people posting this -- is anyone able to summarize or re-post?

Andrei Nikolishin said that Michkov is very selfish and not a good teammate.

 

[Ace]

Nikolishin is a scout for the Capitals.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

At first I thought his pocket square was a Kachina coyote head

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Former NHLer Andrei Nikolishin said that he has attitude problems and is basically uncoachable.

EDIT:

Andrey Nikolishin told how Matvei Michkov is evaluated in the NHL.

According to experts, the Russian striker is seen as a contender for the choice in the top 5 in the NHL draft.

“For me, he is first or second in terms of skill in the draft.

But in terms of character, in relation to teammates, coaching staff, management, fans - the person has now fallen very low in the eyes of all scouts, all managers. It has nothing to do with tragedy.

The information is collected about the player - about how he talks with partners, how he communicates with coaches, how he behaves off the ice. And here is Matvei...

You can reveal many nuances. I can show the correspondence when I wanted to meet him and, being a scout, ask a few questions, do an interview, how he answers.

I have never seen such disrespect for other people in my life, ”said Andrey Nikolishin, a former striker of the Russian national team.

That’s what @Fjordy said, but take it with a grain of salt. Nikolishin is a scout for the Capitals.

Thanks so much!

This is why you can’t scout from a couch.

When you’re projecting these kids, you might start with skill and physical stature, but 3rd, 4th, and 5th in importance are all things you can’t see watching them play. That’s why we’re sometimes surprised on draft day.

Anyway, there’s nothing worse than someone who is a dick to fans.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Andrei Nikolishin said that Michkov is very selfish and not a good teammate.

And he’s the capitals scout?? Wow, this is getting interesting.

Considering all this, I feel like this would be fun to bet on. Which spot would have the best odds? I’m guessing he falls to Arizona’s second pick, which I kind of love.

 

[Zman5778]

And he’s the capitals scout?? Wow, this is getting interesting.

Considering all this, I feel like this would be fun to bet on. Which spot would have the best odds? I’m guessing he falls to Arizona’s second pick, which I kind of love.

I'm still placing money on the Capitals.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Leonard is

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I'm still placing money on the Capitals.

Even after their scout made that quote? And considering Ovie’s soon-impending career?

I’d take a center, but you’re right - maybe the connection between Washington and Russia is too strong.

 

[toddkaz]

Bad signal

Andrey Nikolishin told how Matvei Michkov is evaluated in the NHL.

According to experts, the Russian striker is seen as a contender for the choice in the top 5 in the NHL draft.

“For me, he is first or second in terms of skill in the draft.

But in terms of character, in relation to teammates, coaching staff, management, fans - the person has now fallen very low in the eyes of all scouts, all managers. It has nothing to do with tragedy.

The information is collected about the player - about how he talks with partners, how he communicates with coaches, how he behaves off the ice. And here is Matvei...

You can reveal many nuances. I can show the correspondence when I wanted to meet him and, being a scout, ask a few questions, do an interview, how he answers.

I have never seen such disrespect for other people in my life, ”said Andrey Nikolishin, a former striker of the Russian national team.

I think Michkov falling has more to do with having to wait 3 years and there is always the risk of him not coming over. If I am a GM with the 3rd overall do you take Carlsson or wait 3 years for Michkov...