Post-Game Talk: Bagel City Jets 3 - Avs 0

[Moloch]

Couldnt watch the game, what about sambergs performance stood out to you guys?

 

[voyageur]

I thought the line changes were timely and effective.

Ehlers with Lowry hasn't been golden in the past, but that line with Iafallo, who has really stepped up with injury opportunity, and Samberg-Pionk on defense as a hard matchup against MacKinnon, Rantanen, and Makar was effective. Getting a goal on their first shift must have been validating for Arniel. Ehlers responded well to getting that hard ice time. The 2nd line's effectiveness allowed Scheifele's line to generate scoring chances against secondary matchups.

It's too bad Fetts didn't get the goal on his first chance off Nino's rush from his pass, but I think that line was ok. Maybe broke down a little in the defensive zone but not in a costly way. Kupari showed some nice wheels.

PK was very good.

Goaltending was solid.

That's a much needed victory to pull to .500 on the homestand, which hopefully ends on a positive note in the final week.

I'll be surprised if there are too many complaints after this game, a big rebound win that created a little separation on the Wild Card in the division.

Still can't sleep on the Avs who were missing some key players, but that was a good formula to home ice success in a game where the Jets had no PPs.

 

[voyageur]

Couldnt watch the game, what about sambergs performance stood out to you guys?

For me it's the good positions he puts himself in with his skating. He got the early assist, but that was as much Iafallo's work to win the puck as his. He keeps the play in front of him. Moves the puck quickly. Used body position well in one on one battles.

 

[WolfHouse]

Looks like the january slump is a myth

 

[Channelcat]

I thought the line changes were timely and effective.

Ehlers with Lowry hasn't been golden in the past, but that line with Iafallo, who has really stepped up with injury opportunity, and Samberg-Pionk on defense as a hard matchup against MacKinnon, Rantanen, and Makar was effective. Getting a goal on their first shift must have been validating for Arniel. Ehlers responded well to getting that hard ice time. The 2nd line's effectiveness allowed Scheifele's line to generate scoring chances against secondary matchups.

It's too bad Fetts didn't get the goal on his first chance off Nino's rush from his pass, but I think that line was ok. Maybe broke down a little in the defensive zone but not in a costly way. Kupari showed some nice wheels.

PK was very good.

Goaltending was solid.

That's a much needed victory to pull to .500 on the homestand, which hopefully ends on a positive note in the final week.

I'll be surprised if there are too many complaints after this game, a big rebound win that created a little separation on the Wild Card in the division.

Still can't sleep on the Avs who were missing some key players, but that was a good formula to home ice success in a game where the Jets had no PPs.

I was one of the Arniel critics, but I've certainly changed my tune. Yes, he'll have a shelf life like all coaches, but he's done an excellent job managing this bench

 

[Jets 31]

Nice game from everyone, Helly is the MVP in the league right now. I know it was injuries that had to shuffle the lines but i think we should do this once in a while. Harder for the opposition to scout us and our lines getting a little stale. Shutout a very good team and we were on a back to back, nice. Now we Dance....

 

[AlphaLackey]

“See Helle get a shutout against the Avs, and I…”

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... and it felt so good?

 

[Jets 31]

I was one of the Arniel critics, but I've certainly changed my tune. Yes, he'll have a shelf life like all coaches, but he's done an excellent job managing this bench

I liked Arniel as our choice for head coach and still do. Jets keep this up and he has to be coach of the year.

 

[Whis]

Hopefully this is a wake up call to the portion of the media and fan base that says you can't break up the "best 3rd line in hockey". Balanced 4 lines makes us way more dangerous then a shut down line. Don't think anyone had a bad game in that one, 4th line didn't get much time but Toni showed way more speed then I remember.

 

[Jets 31]

Just got back from the game.
Filipino heritage night.
My wife is Flip and we go when Jets celebrate Filipino night
Anyway back to the game
Random thoughts
Sammy is solid He is never really out of position Good to see the 54-4 pairing again
Strong game from 44-2
Stanley and Coghlan made a few mistakes but didn’t cost us any goals.
Barely serviceable 3rd pairing
Like to see Miller and Fleury back
Hellybuyck was impressive.
MacKinnon generates opportunities with his quickness but Helle anticipates well.

As for the forwards
Other than the CVS line there were So many player combos from what I used to seeing I got confused which was 2nd/3rd/4th line
I generally like what I was seeing from the Jets forwards
They were outplaying the Alvs along the boards for puck battles and everyone played a tight forward checking.
I think that’s the style we have to play against this team
Alvs are fast in transition and we can’t be trying to outgun them like we did try to do in the playoffs last season

I have really liked Coghlan's play, right after Ehlers first goal Colorado had a break and Coghlan was able to break up the play right as they were going to have a great scoring chance because of his speed.

 

[King Woodballs]

Connor Hartebuyck?
Connor Vezinabuyck?

Winnipeg Connor’s > Everyone else’s Connor’s

 

[Jets 31]

That was our 2nd game in recent games where the other team didn't get a single penalty against them. Arniel needs to figure out how those teams are so nice and why we are such big meanies .

 

[Adam da bomb]

That was our 2nd game in recent games where the other team didn't get a single penalty against them. Arniel needs to figure out how those teams are so nice and why we are such big meanies .

Connor has especially become a bully!

 

[Jet]

I’d really like the idea of seeing what works now so we optimize for the playoffs.

YES! That's what the regular season is for!

I liked everything that Arniel did, but even though Toninato played his typical smart game i really wanted to see Chibrikov come up.

After a lull, the bottom group of Barron, Gusbus, and Kupakup are starting to tilt the ice positively when they are on the ice.

 

[Jet]

The last time he had a great year was in the bubble against a historically weak Canadian division, which was a contract year. No bubble this time, but a contract year nonetheless. I don't trust him to continue this. Contracts should be based on what your projected results will be, not what you've done in the past. Reasonable price? Sure. Not a 6m player though.

Pionk isn't a 6m player? That's the hottest of hot takes.

Also since when are contracts based on that? Just because they should be doesn't mean they are.

Top 4 RHD with offensive chops are pretty rare and the market reflects that.

I think pionk at 6x6 is a value deal.

 

[bustamente]

This team can wear down teams even on a b2b when they can roll four lines and they are effective.

 

[Jets 31]

Connor has especially become a bully!

Kyle Tkachuk Connor

 

[Gil Fisher]

First game for my 8 year old daughter. She had a BLAST, getting right into the chanting and singing.

She also has a MAKAR jersey, but there’s no way she was wearing that jersey tonight. She’s a die hard Jets fan first like her daddy!!! Wouldn’t allow daddy to wear his Avalanche Forsberg either (which I wouldn’t have anyway) hahaha!!!

That's some solid parenting there.

 

[snowkiddin]

Helle4Hart

 

[kanadalainen]

 

[kanadalainen]

Couldn't watch the game last night, my spouse booked us solid for some socializing - arrived home very early this morning and watched the highlights 4x... beautiful game. My hosts had the game on for the first 10 minutes - and I was on that like a coelacanth to a mackerel but that crashed when the chow was plated.

Ehlers first goal is part of why I'm a Jets fan. One of the highlights thus far into the season. I find enormous fun in watching that guy utilize everything in the tool box.

The nice line switch up by Arniel is a good coach using his mind, and not some river-bound coelacanth simply relying on guesses.

Helly's game completes the picture.

I love this team, warts and all.

 

[ps241]

Couldnt watch the game, what about sambergs performance stood out to you guys?

TLDR alert.

Where to start. So I think in last night Dylan picked up where he left off early this season. Our D core feels much better with him on it, everyone gets slotted into a their spot.

What makes Samberg a great modern day shut down defender. In no particular order:

First off let’s start out with match ups. I am now comfortable with him being utilized against the best of the best. That is a big step forward.

Size with skating. Sammy is 6’4” and about 215-220 and built really solid. He has functional strength too, by that I mean he is really effective at puck battles. He may lack a mean streak (dammit) but he is far from passive and loves to physically engage to battle for possession.

He effortlessly kills rushes and covers ground because of his smooth powerful 4 ways skating and long reach. He has elite defensive instincts and a disruptive stick. He also takes very aggressive routes and often meets and engages attackers at the earliest opportunity to break up plays. He “gaps up” as well as any defender. Last night Nate gained our blue line coming down the right boards and Dylan was soft gapping but the minute Nate gained the blue line Dylan slowed to allow the gap to close and he extended his stick out quickly to make contact and disrupt that play. Nate maintained possession but a battle ensured. Samberg gave the space over the blue line to MacKinnon but then took it away.

Next skill set is once he wins battles he shows so much more poise this season. He is able to win pucks in pressure situations and quickly move/transition them into space to teammates. Once he gets pucks he doesn’t panic and together with Neil they very effectively transition to attack and support the attack. Dylan has become really good at puck moving.

I remember once last night it was either Makar or MacKinnon that had the puck deep in our end and was being shadowed (1 on 1) by Samberg and after a longer route the puck carrier actually broke contain a bit and increased gap and I thought, I can’t remember the last time someone did that to Samberg but shortly after Dylan adjusted his angle and was able to get his stick on the puck on the shot attempt.

Ok I realize this was a bit flowery and yes like all defenders he make mistakes and can be beat but this season he has taken a very big step.

I will cut myself off here. Two of my favorite modern shut down guys are Brodin and Slavin and Dylan is (moving towards becoming) a slightly bigger/thicker version of those two. Neither puts up big points but they are impact players. I can see Samberg settling in to similar role that those two play. A top pairing defender who is as impactful as you can get while not running a PP. The second part is key because it keeps them more cost effective.

 

[kanadalainen]

Just woke up 20 minutes ago, still reveling in last night's win.

Traditionally I like to post a song... so (you guessed it), time to depress the Clutch.

Who is Clutch? My kids call it Stoner rock. I don't know what it is, but I love the early stuff. I saw them once in the 'Peg at the Burt warming up for Motorhead. I bought a vintage Orange tube head and sat it on my home made cabinet loaded with Greenbacks with the sole purpose of achieving their sound.

Are they Canadian? No

Are they well known? Not really

Are they mainstream at least? No

Do they rock the befeckit out of sundry gaberlunzies? Yes

 

[Jets 31]

TLDR alert.

Where to start. So I think in last night Dylan picked up where he left off early this season. Our D core feels much better with him on it, everyone gets slotted into a their spot.

What makes Samberg a great modern day shut down defender. In no particular order:

First off let’s start out with match ups. I am now comfortable with him being utilized against the best of the best. That is a big step forward.

Size with skating. Sammy is 6’4” and about 215-220 and build really solid. He has functional strength too, by that I mean he is really effective at puck battles. He may lack a mean streak (dammit) but he is far from passive and loves to physically engage to battle for possession.

He effortlessly kills rushes and covers ground because of his smooth powerful 4 ways skating and long reach. He has elite defensive instincts and a disruptive stick. He also takes very aggressive routes and often meets and engages attackers at the earliest opportunity to break up plays. He “gaps up” as well as any defender. Last night Nate gained our blue line coming down the right boards and Dylan was soft gapping but the minute Nate gained the blue line Dylan slowed to allow the gap to close and he extended his stick out quickly to make contact and disrupt that play. Nate maintained possession but a battle ensured. Samberg gave the space over the blue line to MacKinnon but then took it away.

Next skill set is once he wins battles he shows so much more poise this season. He is able to win pucks in pressure situations and quickly move/transition them into space to teammates. Once he gets pucks he doesn’t panic and together with Neil they very effectively transition to attack and support the attack. Dylan has become really good at puck moving.

I remember once last night it was either Makar or MacKinnon and that had the puck deep in our end and was being shadowed (1 on 1) by Samberg and after a longer route the puck carrier actually broke contain a bit and increased gap and I thought, I can’t remember the last time someone did that to Samberg but shortly after Dylan adjusted his angle and was able to get his stick on the puck on the shot attempt.

Ok I realize this was a bit flowery and yes like all defenders he make mistakes and can be beat but this season he has taken a very big step.

I will cut myself off here. Two of my favorite modern shut down guys are Brodin and Slavin and Dylan is (moving towards becoming) a slightly bigger/thicker version of those two. Neither puts up big points but they are impact players. I can see Samberg settling in to similar role that those two play. A top pairing defender who is as impactful as you can get while not running a PP. The second part is key because it keeps them more cost effective.

Morning Dylan, we are all glad you are back playing.

 

[SUX2BU]

Good games from helle, eels and snerg

Someone posted earlier not to forget how you play these guys in this matter

Suck it sportsnet and gallery

On to the next one