Post-Game Talk: Golden Slumbers

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I’m so bored with this team

 

[hardnosed]

It's like a mix of 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 to me. But it seems like the players aren't as confused where to go than before, finally.

I contend that our improvement over the last couple weeks has zero to do with strategy or game planning. It's all about playing with intensity and a better attitude.

 

[bhamill]

Is it possible to compare the analytics of the entire team with and without Rempe? Maybe this is the bridge we're looking for.

I understand correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation but the sample size is growing and hard to ignore.

I'm not an expert but isn't the point of analytics trying to identify metrics that are more or less indicative of styles of hockey that can win games?

With Rempe, it's as if he's cutting the Gordian knot and bypassing traditional analytics metrics and going straight to the Win column.

I say this as someone who finds analytics interesting and useful but far from perfect.

I don’t know. Is there a metric for compete level? For playing a bit bigger? Hits are quantified but not qualified. It’s a tough one.

 

[haveandare]

Theres no doubt that opponents rush and make bad decisions when Rempe is bearing down on the forecheck in a way that they don’t with other players coming at them. That’s valuable and worthwhile if he can cut down the penalties.

Not sure if it was a conscious thing, and if it was why it took this long, but not ceding territory when the other team is attacking is making a huge, huge difference. Right now, they’re playing defense in their opponents zone and in the neutral zone in a way they haven’t in maybe years.

I’d bet they make the playoffs and make another good run. Theres too much talent and when they play like this they’re a lot to handle.

Also, love Kaliyev but worried he’s the type of Kakko ish player the coaches don’t see the value in

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Of course you are right, Rempe isn’t winning all of those games. BUT I think the inference can be made that his presence in the lineup is an overall positive, not the ridiculous detriment that his haters insist he is, that he certainly doesn’t cause the team to LOSE. Because they factually do less of that with him in the lineup.

I think saying he's a net positive is fine but you have Ed pretending like he's responsible for 25 games in the standings.

 

[LokiDog]

The Rangers threw their tantrum because they had to do their homework and realized they still have to do their homework and ended up doing their homework. Too bad they'll still probably get a C in the class because they slacked.

Pretty good analogy.

They had a teacher that really liked them last year too, so they were able to get by being good test takers. This year they actually had to do their HW but since they were able to get by last year neglecting it, they thought they were special and shouldn’t be forced to. Like you said, they finally realized they’re going to have to do it whether they throw a tantrum or not, but now they’re so far behind, they’ll be lucky to pass.

 

[LokiDog]

Theres no doubt that opponents rush and make bad decisions when Rempe is bearing down on the forecheck in a way that they don’t with other players coming at them. That’s valuable and worthwhile if he can cut down the penalties.

Not sure if it was a conscious thing, and if it was why it took this long, but not ceding territory when the other team is attacking is making a huge, huge difference. Right now, they’re playing defense in their opponents zone and in the neutral zone in a way they haven’t in maybe years.

I’d bet they make the playoffs and make another good run. Theres too much talent and when they play like this they’re a lot to handle.

Also, love Kaliyev but worried he’s the type of Kakko ish player the coaches don’t see the value in

I agree with the Rempe part, but I also have to ask, is it because Rempe is so feared (sure, huge guy, hits hard) or is it because he’s the only one truly bearing down on people aggressively in the first place. I’m pretty sure opponents rushed to get rid of the puck when Ovie was coming after them on the forecheck (and while he was a great hitter, it was his intensity - not being 6’9 - that made that happen). Ditto Tkachuk. Maybe instead of Rempe learning to fight he should just be teaching our guys how to forecheck with purpose. I think any NHL player (at least over 6’ 200ish) is a lot when you’re flat footed retrieving a dump in and they’re barreling after you like Loki on a tennis ball.

 

[noncents]

Pretty good analogy.

They had a teacher that really liked them last year too, so they were able to get by being good test takers. This year they actually had to do their HW but since they were able to get by last year neglecting it, they thought they were special and shouldn’t be forced to. Like you said, they finally realized they’re going to have to do it whether they throw a tantrum or not, but now they’re so far behind, they’ll be lucky to pass.

who is the teacher in this scenario?

 

[LokiDog]

who is the teacher in this scenario?

Fate. Luck. The universe.

Last year the “test taking” was the PP and goaltending. The universe was kind and that was enough and sustained long enough. This year, the PP wasn’t getting it done.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

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Holy shit is Trochek's game the highest "event" game of the year?

 

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[will1066]

I’m so bored with this team

The collective borgening agreement doesn't say it has to entertain you like Tob.

 

[will1066]

 

[nyrage]

The collective borgening agreement doesn't say it has to entertain you like Tob.

Come on man. Make it realistic. Tob is too high of a standard for any team/person to match.

 

[will1066]

Come on man. Make it realistic. Tob is too high of a standard for any team/person to match.

I'm afraid you're right. He is on a different plane of consciousness.

 

[DialUp]

I didn't get to see any of it last night. Was it one of, if not the, best game they played this year?

 

[hackeyman]

THE REMPE EFFECT - I've posted several times the Rangers have lots of talent but have a tempermental chemistry/culture problem. That problem originally centered around the lack of grit and toughness on the team and shows itself with a lack of confidence and emotion. When Gallant was hired 4 years ago he struck an agreement with Drury to sign Reavo. The results in improved team chemistry/culture showed itself immediately. Bringing in Reavo wasn't a perfect solution without it's own problems (nor was it the only reason for improved fortunes) BUT overall it was important in changing the chemistry,culture, and confidence of the team. From my perspective The Reavo Effect, The Helmet Throwing Effect, and The Rempe Effect are all the same .They are catalysts to improving the chemistry, confidence and passion/effort of this team. Yes it may be a little more intangiable than something concrete you can put your hands on but those of you still denying it have your heads in the sand. I will add that I do not see Rempe as neccessarily a permanent or only solution. The team needs more players like Trocheck and Cuylle taking over the leadership. Even when Kreider comes back I would like to see Cuylle have more time with Zibby and Smith. I like Brett Berard for the future of this team . He may be small but plays with a toughness/grit for his size and also with plenty of effort and emotion. A small guy that plays big is often great for team chemistry. Analytics aren't everything. Chemistry matters.

 

[kovazub94]

Did like the Rangers have amnesia for two months and learned how to play defense again?

Effort wasn’t there and once you stop - it’s not easy to regain

 

[cheech70]

Eichel still looks elite...tough to pass on him in 2026

 

[kovazub94]

This team is gonna go on a tear, self rent all their guys they should be trading and become buyers at the deadline only to get dummied by the Florida Tax-Frees in round 1. Love the NHL

I’d be perfectly fine if they in-season resigned both Vaaka and Borg

Borgen in particular is a vast improvement over Trouba, and he hasn't even gotten his zone exits perfected yet.

especially for the fraction of a cost

 

[kovazub94]

It's like a mix of 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 to me. But it seems like the players aren't as confused where to go than before, finally.

Both newcomers bring physicality and enough speed which is exactly what modern hockey D is required (unless we’re talking skills of Fox nature

 

[leetch99]

It's like a mix of 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 to me. But it seems like the players aren't as confused where to go than before, finally.

Likely a Housley brainstorming i'der.......LOL....

 

[leetch99]

I’m so bored with this team

I know...it seems all we do of late is win . Organized play is hard on the eyes....I fell asleep at the end of period one . Now the Pens and Ottawa game was really organized CHAOS !!! I thought it was going to get real ugly fast but cooler heads prevailed with both playing today and points becoming valuable Pens gave up the 2 points .

 

[Harbour Dog]

It's not about guys figuring it out, or remembering how to be effective, or anything along those lines. It's effort, effort, effort.

If the effort isn't there, there isn't enough talent on the planet to make a team succeed. This isn't basketball or baseball; there is an element of will in hockey that needs to be present just to be in the top half of the league.

As Rangers fans, we should know this better than any other fanbase. In the last 30 years, We've gotten a very close look at both extremes of being with or without will.

 

[noncents]

It's not about guys figuring it out, or remembering how to be effective, or anything along those lines. It's effort, effort, effort.

If the effort isn't there, there isn't enough talent on the planet to make a team succeed. This isn't basketball or baseball; there is an element of will in hockey that needs to be present just to be in the top half of the league.

As Rangers fans, we should know this better than any other fanbase. In the last 30 years, We've gotten a very close look at both extremes of being with or without will.

i agree with your premise but i think you have the math backwards.. talent gets you in the top half of the league. Will is what separates winners from losers come spring.