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turcotte8 said:
Probably give him a raise.
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Wouldn't be surprised.

The Yankees have gotten to the point where they're smelling their own farts so much, it's baseball that's wrong if the team doesn't succeed.

Hell, the Mets are a mess, but at least they tried to do something interesting, and they're trying to do something different after it failed. The Yankees are sitting here with a .500 roster absolutely flabbergasted that they're .500.

David Cone pointed it out on the broadcast the other night. They got off to an obscene start last year on the back of unsustainably hot starting pitching. Since then, they're about 100-100 over 200 games. That's what they are.
 
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I actually think that Cashman is toast after this year regardless of whats being said by Hal and Co.

The noise is going to be too loud and I expect that they'll let Cash "Resign." Boone is 100% a dead duck but it's going to be more than just him.
 
I don't know if it's the scouting, development, or both, but all the prospects we heard about (that they wouldn't trade) and all the prospects we still hear about, and here's a group photo of all the ones that reached the hype:

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(Volpe, obviously, still TBD)
 
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Prospects are more random in baseball than any other sport.

There's 900 prospects on every team, taken in the 300 rounds of the draft, playing for 22 farm teams. Pitching is even more voodoo than goaltending and Tommy John is all but a pre-req at this point. Nobody knows what position anybody actually plays until they get to a decently high level.

Hanging onto every one for dear life is just foolish team building.
 
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Machinehead said:
Prospects are more random in baseball than any other sport.

There's 900 prospects on every team, taken in the 300 rounds of the draft, playing for 22 farm teams. Pitching is even more voodoo than goaltending and Tommy John is all but a pre-req at this point. Nobody knows what position anybody actually plays until they get to a decently high level.

Hanging onto every one for dear life is just foolish team building.
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The funny thing is, when you look at his trades, you can absolutely take issue with the guys he’s acquiring, but the prospects he has given up have largely become nothing.

The Montas trade looks like JP Sears settling in as a mid rotation starter for Oakland and a bunch of junk.

The Gallo trade looks like Duran as a solid starter, and a bunch of junk.

The Benintendi trade for a bunch of junk.

The Effross trade for maybe a 5th starter.

The worst trade by far didn’t even include prospects was the money he took on for Donaldson.

There was no reason to buy this deadline, the team stinks, but there is no reason to prospect hug this winter.
 
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We have an every day lineup that has Billy McKinney and Jake Bauer in it...think about that for a second....and people wonder why we are a .500 team?We have no starter pitching after Cole either now.its comical Cashman survives this roster construction
 
There’s really no reason Wells, Peraza and Pereira shouldn’t be here playing everyday.

You are carrying two awful catchers, Greg Allen, Billy McKinney and Oswaldo Cabrera on the roster. I’m not even asking them to get rid of “good” players.
 
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mrmovies779 said:
I've been a fan of the Yanks for nearly 40 years,and this team is giving me flashbacks to those terrible 80's teams of Dale Berra,Pagliarulo and friends
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Pags played full seasons for the Yanks from 84-88. Even on those flawed teams (and they were definitely flawed), the worst they did in that five year span was finish nine games over .500. Heck, in the current playoff format, they would have made the playoffs in 4 of the 5 years. It wasn't until 89-92 that they got really bad.

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The funny thing is, when you look at his trades, you can absolutely take issue with the guys he’s acquiring, but the prospects he has given up have largely become nothing.

The Montas trade looks like JP Sears settling in as a mid rotation starter for Oakland and a bunch of junk.

The Gallo trade looks like Duran as a solid starter, and a bunch of junk.

The Benintendi trade for a bunch of junk.

The Effross trade for maybe a 5th starter.

The worst trade by far didn’t even include prospects was the money he took on for Donaldson.

There was no reason to buy this deadline, the team stinks, but there is no reason to prospect hug this winter.
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You can go further back where they actually did make trades for "legit" players and gave up something of "value" in their farm system:

James Paxton: Traded Justis Sheffield
Lance Lynn: Traded Tyler Austin
Sonny Gray: Traded James Kaprielian
Frazier/Kahnle: Traded Blake Rutherford

All those guys were either Yankee first round draft picks or top 5 rated guys in their farm system. None of them amounted to anything after the trade. The Yankees are so bad at drafting, developing or signing international talent that honestly, if I were another GM, why would I even trade with the Yankees?

Here's an interesting article:
www.cbssports.com

How missteps by Yankees ownership, Brian Cashman have led to New York's shocking decline since 2017

The Yankees, currently in last place, have failed to build a winner around Aaron Judge in the last six years
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Mike's not wrong. It's just a bungled mess from the top down. If you had told me, even just a few years ago, that I wouldn't be watching one full Yankee game live in 2023 (and probably into the future), I would have said "Send flowers to my widow then, because I must have died." Yet, I'm alive and here we are. Just a joyless franchise right now.
 
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looking back in the 80'a it's quite shocking that the yanks didn't enjoy more success. henderson, mattingly, winfield, griffey sr, and hell even pags for a couple of seasons 84-85. take those bats and have them on the squad for the last couple of years we would have won the division at least once and sure as hell wouldn't even sniff last place.
 
Im not a Yankee fan, but apparently they went overboard with analytics and forgot about actual baseball. Once again games arent won on a spreadsheet.

nypost.com

Ex-Yankees prospect Ben Ruta rips organization: ‘No baseball being taught’

The Yankees’ reliance on analytics has been a point of contention for the team’s fans, and apparently at least one player formerly in the organization.
nypost.com nypost.com
 
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I don't think Aaron Boone is cut out to be the Yankees' manager anymore. With very insurmountable odds to make the playoffs, it's best that they cut their losses and let go of him now and play the rest of the season with an interim manager.
 
I couldn’t imagine paying to go see the Yankees at this point. The games aren’t competitive at all, and in a lot they’re getting lit up in the 1st inning.

You spend all that time getting to the stadium, get your beer and hot dog, and by the time your butt hits the seat the game is over, not to mention hitting you over the head for the price of the ticket, transportation, parking, concessions, and maybe some merch. God help you if you bring a family.
 
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Machinehead said:
Prospects are more random in baseball than any other sport.

There's 900 prospects on every team, taken in the 300 rounds of the draft, playing for 22 farm teams. Pitching is even more voodoo than goaltending and Tommy John is all but a pre-req at this point. Nobody knows what position anybody actually plays until they get to a decently high level.

Hanging onto every one for dear life is just foolish team building.
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Until you trade Tatis for Shields, Swanson for Miller, Glashow for Archer etc.
 
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