OT: 2023 MLB Thread

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I mean if the Giants offer Judge 450 million+,I just don't see the Yankees going that high and matching.It would sting,but I honestly would let him walk for that amount.That contract is going to be brutal in the later years of it.
 
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Oh listen to this soft shit

SNY's Andy Martino reports that "more than one Yankee player has told his agent this week that playing at the Stadium last weekend was an unusually brutal experience."
 
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Oh listen to this soft shit

SNY's Andy Martino reports that "more than one Yankee player has told his agent this week that playing at the Stadium last weekend was an unusually brutal experience."
Boohoo, point to where the fans hurt you.

Ppl saying the Rangers need to tear it up and start over, it's the Yankees who need to do that. Most of the team is soft AF, Houston pitchers were laughing at how easy it was to manipulate the team into strikeouts. They were scared to mess up and make an out on the first pitch so strike 1 was poured over time after time. Then they were scared to take a second BP fastball and would swing out of the zone the rest of the at bat. Complete joke until game 4 when it didn't matter any more. They can go play in Cleveland or LA or St. Louis and be hugged and loved to death and be fake-tough like Lebron and savor coming to NY as the villain, ride the subway to the Stadium, and then get to play with no pressure to perform and no home town booing hurting their multi-millionaire feelings.
 
I'm not surprised. This team has consistently come up small in big spots for over a decade. It really highlights how special that 90s team was.
2017 was special and the team really had a shot to win it all because it was unexpected and no big city pressure. Once the baby bombers were expected to at least make the ALCS again they collapsed like a Walmart tent in a stiff breeze.
 
Leigh Steinberg — a well-known and powerful agent who has worked with marquee athletes like Patrick Mahomes and Hall of Famers Troy Aikman and Steve Young — told Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports that he can thinks Judge could get $500 million over 10 years on the open market:

“He immediately and dramatically enhances a team’s offensive output. He’s a good team player. And for any team that’s not sold out, he’s an immediate box office draw. So he might be one of the few players who pays for part of his contract in ticket sales.”
 
Leigh Steinberg — a well-known and powerful agent who has worked with marquee athletes like Patrick Mahomes and Hall of Famers Troy Aikman and Steve Young — told Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports that he can thinks Judge could get $500 million over 10 years on the open market:

“He immediately and dramatically enhances a team’s offensive output. He’s a good team player. And for any team that’s not sold out, he’s an immediate box office draw. So he might be one of the few players who pays for part of his contract in ticket sales.”
He's over 30 and has been injury prone in the past. That contract would be a disaster.
 
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Judge & Rizzo to SFG

Miller joined Papa & Lund on Wednesday to discuss his report, and said in very strong terms that he believes the Giants will indeed sign Judge and possibly another Yankees slugger Judge happens to be close with.

Miller says that a combination of money, Judge’s desire to go back home and a fractured relationship with the Yankees have all signs pointing toward the Bay Area.

“[The Giants] are definitely going after him,” Miller began on KNBR. “They are going to get a second and maybe a third guy to entice him.

“I think there’s some rifts in the [Yankees] organization. I think the Giants will overbid for him, I don’t think the Yankees will. Aaron Judge was booed in two of the home playoff games this year. That didn’t sit well with his family. Judge was not happy that Joey Gallo, Aaron Hicks were crushed by fans this year.

“He’s very, very loyal, it’s going to be tough to leave his friends in the organization. That said, he’s very loyal to his mother, his wife, they still live in Linden [,CA]. He grew up a Giants fan, he was a huge Rich Aurilia fan. He lived through the Bonds days. I think he’s ready to come home, I think he will come home. I think the Giants will give him the best offer. I think the Giants will sign another guy — maybe Trea Turner — and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Giants also bring Anthony Rizzo with him.”
 
The Yankee organization appears to be blaming fans for their failures….

It Seems The Yankees Organization Is Attempting To Pin Their Failures On The Fans Instead Of The Team's Poor Decisions And Play On The Field
 
The Yankee organization appears to be blaming fans for their failures….

It Seems The Yankees Organization Is Attempting To Pin Their Failures On The Fans Instead Of The Team's Poor Decisions And Play On The Field
LMAO org is just as soft as their players.

f***in group think- @Machinehead needs to revamp their entire analytics department, blaming the fans instead of looking inward lacks so much awareness. Can't be our roster choices, can't be our manager choice, can't be our approach, can't be our analytics....must be the fans!!!! My 8 year has more introspection than these buffoons.
 
LMAO org is just as soft as their players.

f***in group think- @Machinehead needs to revamp their entire analytics department, blaming the fans instead of looking inward lacks so much awareness. Can't be our roster choices, can't be our manager choice, can't be our approach, can't be our analytics....must be the fans!!!! My 8 year has more introspection than these buffoons.
I'm game!

I don't know how you can be "into analytics" as everyone accuses them of being and have a line drive rate as abysmal as theirs. Like, I get the new-age approach. A guy like Higashioka should be uppercutting. If he hits .200 and gives you 10 homers, that's amazing out of your backup catcher. Big, strong guys with bat speed like Torres, Judge, and Stanton will hit for more power hitting line drives because their line drives get out.

Judge was doing it. He wasn't over-swinging until he got close to Maris and then he hit less homers when he was over-swinging.

I have two theorys

1) Everyone is base-level into analytics. It's 2022. YES is a propaganda machine. The Yankees being "into analytics" doesn't mean 28 other teams aren't doing it better.

2) The Yankees are "into analytics" insofar as they saw Moneyball once and now they think OBP and homeruns are cool, and hitting grounders for base hits actually mostly doesn't work. That's was 2002. Moneyball analytics, again, is the minimum now.

Also, I'm not the only one who noticed the Astros trying to get up 0-1 on a meatball right across the plate. They love doing it to take-heavy teams that draw walks. Don't get me wrong, the Astros have an incredible pitching staff, but the tiny chink in the armor where you have to get in (because there's no other way in), is that MLB hitting absolutely clobbers Houston on first-pitch strikes. Everyone has that book but the Yankees and that's why they always particularly shut down the Yankees, beyond their already great pitching. This is a team "into analytics." They should know this.
 
2) The Yankees are "into analytics" insofar as they saw Moneyball once and now they think OBP and homeruns are cool, and hitting grounders for base hits actually mostly doesn't work. That's was 2002. Moneyball analytics, again, is the minimum now.
This is where we're at. Cashman thinks he's the smartest man in the room with rudimentary understanding of decades old Analytics.

OBP and HR. All of his decisions are based off of it. It feels like the players are chosen because of it and our coaches coach for it. It may work in the regular season but it will not win you a World Series.

It's fundamentally why I stopped watching. It's been the same for decades.
 
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This 2022 team had 7 everyday batters strike out over 100 times.
Judge 175K - this is absurd
Donaldson 138K -
Stanton 137K -
Torres 129K -
Hicks 109K -
Rizzo 101K -
Gallo 106K

IKF is the anomaly, it's why'd I keep him at 3B or as a backup.

The 2009 team had 3 everyday batters
Swisher 126Ks -
Posada 102Ks -
Texeira 114Ks

I can't see what's wrong....

I'm telling you... going basic bitch, contact+ hitters is the way. You'd have Judge and Stanton for power... but they need to change their approach. This many unproductive outs is ridiculous. Maybe having people on base would help but still... there needs to be adjustments
 
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This is where we're at. Cashman thinks he's the smartest man in the room with rudimentary understanding of decades old Analytics.

OBP and HR. All of his decisions are based off of it. It feels like the players are chosen because of it and our coaches coach for it. It may work in the regular season but it will not win you a World Series.

It's fundamentally why I stopped watching. It's been the same for decades.
And you know what? Those A's teams and Billy Beane deserve credit because they revolutionized baseball on no payroll, but they always fell apart in the playoffs. Other teams noticed and adapted the style.
 
I'm game!

I don't know how you can be "into analytics" as everyone accuses them of being and have a line drive rate as abysmal as theirs. Like, I get the new-age approach. A guy like Higashioka should be uppercutting. If he hits .200 and gives you 10 homers, that's amazing out of your backup catcher. Big, strong guys with bat speed like Torres, Judge, and Stanton will hit for more power hitting line drives because their line drives get out.

Judge was doing it. He wasn't over-swinging until he got close to Maris and then he hit less homers when he was over-swinging.

I have two theorys

1) Everyone is base-level into analytics. It's 2022. YES is a propaganda machine. The Yankees being "into analytics" doesn't mean 28 other teams aren't doing it better.

2) The Yankees are "into analytics" insofar as they saw Moneyball once and now they think OBP and homeruns are cool, and hitting grounders for base hits actually mostly doesn't work. That's was 2002. Moneyball analytics, again, is the minimum now.

Also, I'm not the only one who noticed the Astros trying to get up 0-1 on a meatball right across the plate. They love doing it to take-heavy teams that draw walks. Don't get me wrong, the Astros have an incredible pitching staff, but the tiny chink in the armor where you have to get in (because there's no other way in), is that MLB hitting absolutely clobbers Houston on first-pitch strikes. Everyone has that book but the Yankees and that's why they always particularly shut down the Yankees, beyond their already great pitching. This is a team "into analytics." They should know this.
Fun fact:

Around the time Steve Cohen was rumored to buy the Mets, I was talking to a then-coworker who previously worked at SAC Capital. He told me that Cohen bought everyone in the company a copy of Moneyball. That happened years before he bought the Mets.

I then told my family who are all Mets fans about that, and then after it came out he bought the Mets, they built a huge analytics department.
 
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