2023 Free Agency/UFA Targets

[norrisnick]

I mean he didn't plan for hronek to get injured immediately after though...OR DID HE


but leddy was flipped for (essentially) walman and this years 2nd. Just walman makes it a win but who we take at that 2nd (or trade it for??) would be icing on the cake, i would think.

Hronek got hurt before he was traded. Vancouver just shut him down.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Vrana is going to keep scoring goals in bunches, it's what he does, so we'll hear about Yzerman losing him for nothing for the next few years.

Then there's Neddy and Leddy. Not high stakes trades but still.

Yzerman treating Vrana the way he did is perfectly within his MO, which is basically "don't f*** with me".

 

[Bench]

Yzerman treating Vrana the way he did is perfectly within his MO, which is basically "don't f*** with me".

Oh I'm on board with jettisoning players that don't fit. Even if they have talent. Even if they do well elsewhere.

I'm just saying don't be surprised that if Vrana gets his shit together and throws 30 in net next year that we'll hear how poorly Yzerman did with the whole scenario.

 

[jkutswings]

Oh I'm on board with jettisoning players that don't fit. Even if they have talent. Even if they do well elsewhere.

I'm just saying don't be surprised that if Vrana gets his shit together and throws 30 in net next year that we'll hear how poorly Yzerman did with the whole scenario.

I wonder if those same fans think that Boston ruined Marty Lapointe.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Oh I'm on board with jettisoning players that don't fit. Even if they have talent. Even if they do well elsewhere.

I'm just saying don't be surprised that if Vrana gets his shit together and throws 30 in net next year that we'll hear how poorly Yzerman did with the whole scenario.

I agree he obviously has that potential, but whatever demons he is/has been battling, they don't really go away, just managed.

Yzerman (and probably to a higher degree Lalonde imo) didn't see him managing it well at all. I hope he figures it out and gets it together, but all I see is someone thatll keep doing this until he hits that bottom.

Kinda like McCarty. Very good at what he does but couldn't kick it and now he just looks disheveled and it sucks to see. I know he is doing much better now though right? Or have I been misled.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I wonder if we could get Tarasenko and O'Reilly to take 2 year deals and reunite them on the second line while Kasper/Mazur develop.

 

[Bench]

I wonder if we could get Tarasenko and O'Reilly to take 2 year deals and reunite them on the second line while Kasper/Mazur develop.

ROR was big buds with Perron, too.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

ROR was big buds with Perron, too.

Gotta love that STL-DET pipeline.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Barbs, Tanko and ROR incoming.

 

[norrisnick]

I hate it here...

 

[jkutswings]

Barbs, Tanko and ROR incoming.

I hate it here...

The thrill is gone?

 

[Gniwder]

I wonder if we could get Tarasenko and O'Reilly to take 2 year deals and reunite them on the second line while Kasper/Mazur develop.

Actually, the team has enough cap space to overpay both of them for one season, and they might be able to pad their stats playing second line with Perron. They both had off seasons, they can improve their market value. 1 year at $7.5M each? (The team could realistically afford $10M each, but that seems silly.) Neither player had a $7.5M season, but it's a one year deal.

Note: $7.5M was their previous AAV

 

[Pavels Dog]

I wonder if we could get Tarasenko and O'Reilly to take 2 year deals and reunite them on the second line while Kasper/Mazur develop.

Ken Holland is that you?

 

[Henkka]

I wonder if we could get Tarasenko and O'Reilly to take 2 year deals and reunite them on the second line while Kasper/Mazur develop.

Ken Holland is that you?

That's Steve Yzerman who signed and traded all Simon Gagnes, Alex Tanguays, Eric Brewers, Dwayne Rolosons, Matt Carles etc. to surround certain kids like Hedman and Stamkos (read: Seider and Raymond) to play instead of all kids.

Same Steve Yzerman did put majority of kids (Tyler Johnson, Richard Panik, Ondrej Palat, Radgo Gudas, Cory Conacher, Alex Killorn, Brett Connolly, JT Brown, Vlad Namestnikov, Cedric PAquette, Nikita Kucherov, Nikita Nesterov, Jonathan Marchessault, Yanni Gourde, Adam Erne, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Brayden Point, Tony DeAngelo, Jonathan Drouin, Anthony Cirelli, Mathieu Joseph and Carter Verhaege) to Norfolk/Syracuse and called them later up. Traded some vets away in front of them for futures, after these young kids did "graduate" from the farm system.

Mostly, if look back on those days, the farm maturing was very foward heavy. And he did keep a veteran defence, all were traded or signed from free agency as vets. Only Hedman was own product, Sergachev got on a trade, McDonagh on a trade, earlier Brewer was a trade-in and trade-out. Cernak was a trade. Bogosians and Ruttas were just cheap fill-ins to complete handnesses.

Home-grown goalie after trying many different vets (like Roloson) and tradining for monsters (Lindböck, Bishop).

In a nutshell:

- Small-sized forwards, fast and skill with grit
- Forwards mostly developed through farm system (the Ken Holland way)
- Filled roster forward holes with short-term UFAs, instead of giving spot for kids
- Big-sized defence (even traded 1st + 3rd + Gudas for Coburn)
- Mostly veteran defence through trades
- Monster goalie, one way or another.

That was the Yzer-plan at Tampa.

Sounds familiar?

 

[SirloinUB]

Any interest in bring Tatar back for a year or two?

 

[norrisnick]

Any interest in bring Tatar back for a year or two?

Not particularly. If we aren't bringing in legit top line talent I'd rather play kids and get them experience. Much rather see Mazur or Lombardi up full time than Tatar.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Reilly Smith was traded for a 3rd to Shittsburgh. There's the money they need to sign Barbashev long term.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Reilly Smith was traded for a 3rd to Shittsburgh. There's the money they need to sign Barbashev long term.

but they still need to get 2 more forwards and the adin hill contract isn't in capfriendly yet

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

but they still need to get 2 more forwards and the adin hill contract isn't in capfriendly yet

They'll find a guy that's LTIR to save them.

Vegas Golden Knights Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

13.462 mil in space right now with 5 of that being LTIR relief.

 

[norrisnick]

They'll find a guy that's LTIR to save them.

Vegas Golden Knights Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

13.462 mil in space right now with 5 of that being LTIR relief.

Didn't someone already report that Stone is legitimately injured and unlikely to fully recover? Ie play enough games to get loose then LTIR city...

 

[Bench]

Any interest in bring Tatar back for a year or two?

If we're going that road, I'd rather Nyquist.

 

[Frk It]

If we're going that road, I'd rather Nyquist.

Tatar-Sheahan-Nyquist line next year?

 

[norrisnick]

Tatar-Sheahan-Nyquist line next year?

I almost threw up...

Spoiler tag that shit

 

[SantosHalper]

Glendog! Bring him home

 

[Detroit Knights]

Didn't someone already report that Stone is legitimately injured and unlikely to fully recover? Ie play enough games to get loose then LTIR city...

I thought that was a joke...I read on twitter that a guy said breaking news, after lifting up the cup, stone is going back on ltir. The team expects a full recovery in time for the 2024 playoffs