2023 Free Agency/UFA Targets

[LeighDx59]

If it was guarenteed that he wanted to play for Detroit? Then kick those tires and see if you can trade for him.

 

[SirloinUB]

For what it's worth, his girlfriend is from Grosse Pointe and went to UofM. He comes to Michigan to train with Larkin and other UofM/NTDP alumni in the summer.

That is interesting. If he is willing to resign we should definitely take a serious look at trading for him.

Tarasenko would also be a great fit from the UFA market. Most of his best years are behind him but we have a ton of space and really need a goal scorer. I think hed be a great fit along side Larkin and Raymond.

 

[LeighDx59]

That is interesting. If he is willing to resign we should definitely take a serious look at trading for him.

Tarasenko would also be a great fit from the UFA market. Most of his best years are behind him but we have a ton of space and really need a goal scorer. I think hed be a great fit along side Larkin and Raymond.

I would think a guy like Tarasenko would be a good guy to learn from for a guy like Raymond.

 

[norrisnick]

I would think a guy like Tarasenko would be a good guy to learn from for a guy like Raymond.

I don't think Ray's gonna learn how to get 2-3" taller and 50lb heavier...

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don't think Ray's gonna learn how to get 2-3" taller and 50lb heavier...

Never say never.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

If it was guarenteed that he wanted to play for Detroit? Then kick those tires and see if you can trade for him.

No thanks.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Im completely just spit balling but what are peoples thoughts on J.T Miller? Hes a beast, great Faceoff guy, super competitive and not as old as we think (30) and he is a guy who HATES losing. Imagine we trade Andrew Copp for him, sign Alex killorn and keep all our draft picks.

Top 9 of:
Killorn - J.T Miller - Kubalik (sub in Benson/Leonard when ready)
Mazur - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Kasper - Berggren
Soderblom - Lombardi - Fabbri

9 OA - we draft whoever is there from Benson/Leonard
17OA - go RHD here draft Willander
41-43 we trade up into late 1st and grab Stenberg/Nadeau

Future D core of:
Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander (lol)
Walman - Matta/chiarot

 

[norrisnick]

Im completely just spit balling but what are peoples thoughts on J.T Miller? Hes a beast, great Faceoff guy, super competitive and not as old as we think (30) and he is a guy who HATES losing. Imagine we trade Andrew Copp for him, sign Alex killorn and keep all our draft picks.

Top 9 of:
Killorn - J.T Miller - Kubalik (sub in Benson/Leonard when ready)
Mazur - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Kasper - Berggren
Soderblom - Lombardi - Fabbri

9 OA - we draft whoever is there from Benson/Leonard
17OA - go RHD here draft Willander
41-43 we trade up into late 1st and grab Stenberg/Nadeau

Future D core of:
Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander (lol)
Walman - Matta/chiarot

Hating losing doesn't help when you're dumb as a brick and don't know how to not lose.

I'd rather imagine trading Chiarot for Heiskanen, cuz that's equally plausible.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Im completely just spit balling but what are peoples thoughts on J.T Miller? Hes a beast, great Faceoff guy, super competitive and not as old as we think (30) and he is a guy who HATES losing. Imagine we trade Andrew Copp for him, sign Alex killorn and keep all our draft picks.

Top 9 of:
Killorn - J.T Miller - Kubalik (sub in Benson/Leonard when ready)
Mazur - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Kasper - Berggren
Soderblom - Lombardi - Fabbri

9 OA - we draft whoever is there from Benson/Leonard
17OA - go RHD here draft Willander
41-43 we trade up into late 1st and grab Stenberg/Nadeau

Future D core of:
Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander (lol)
Walman - Matta/chiarot

How do we get him without trading anything other than Copp?

Also hard pass for me

 

[saska sault]

We arent trading Copp or Chiarot 1 year after they signed long term deals unless they ask out, that almost never happens for a reason. You cant expect to be appealing to UFA's when you do that, just how business works. Plus, we need both of them.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Would kick tires on Laine if Babcock is coming in.

 

[PullHard]

Im completely just spit balling but what are peoples thoughts on J.T Miller? Hes a beast, great Faceoff guy, super competitive and not as old as we think (30) and he is a guy who HATES losing. Imagine we trade Andrew Copp for him, sign Alex killorn and keep all our draft picks.

Top 9 of:
Killorn - J.T Miller - Kubalik (sub in Benson/Leonard when ready)
Mazur - Larkin - Raymond
Rasmussen - Kasper - Berggren
Soderblom - Lombardi - Fabbri

9 OA - we draft whoever is there from Benson/Leonard
17OA - go RHD here draft Willander
41-43 we trade up into late 1st and grab Stenberg/Nadeau

Future D core of:
Edvinsson - Seider
Wallinder - Willander (lol)
Walman - Matta/chiarot

The team is only slightly better and we get older and more expensive, so I don't really see a need to pursue that

 

[13to40]

Would kick tires on Laine if Babcock is coming in.

Mixed feelings for this player. Lethal shot, one heck of a goal scorer, but an absolutely lazy human and awful pro.

He’s an absolute man child and hasn’t matured. I think he is what he is and will only thrive in a perfect world type of scenario.

I don’t think he will be worth the asking price either.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Mixed feelings for this player. Lethal shot, one heck of a goal scorer, but an absolutely lazy human and awful pro.

He’s an absolute man child and hasn’t matured. I think he is what he is and will only thrive in a perfect world type of scenario.

I don’t think he will be worth the asking price either.

He'll always divide opinion, I get that a lot of folks here don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.

Ultimately though this team has no goals in it. My take on it is:

 

[jaster]

He'll always divide opinion, I get that a lot of folks here don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.

Ultimately though this team has no goals in it. My take on it is:

If hockey were analogous to baseball, I’d agree. But players rub off on each other more in hockey. Locker room cancers and lazy players more easily drag the rest of the team down. It’s close to not mattering at all in baseball though…. other than battery mates and maybe middle infielders, it’s just a bunch of individuals not relying on each other out there.

I love Moneyball though.

Anyway, just say no to Laine. Let’s build this thing the right way.

 

[norrisnick]

If hockey were analogous to baseball, I’d agree. But players rub off on each other more in hockey. Locker room cancers and lazy players more easily drag the rest of the team down. It’s close to not mattering at all in baseball though…. other than battery mates and maybe middle infielders, it’s just a bunch of individuals not relying on each other out there.

I love Moneyball though.

Anyway, just say no to Laine. Let’s build this thing the right way.

So hardworking players can't rub off on less industrious players, but laziness is infectious? Interesting....

 

[jkutswings]

So hardworking players can't rub off on less industrious players, but laziness is infectious? Interesting....

Anything is possible. But I don't think the Wings quite have a New England Patriots level of locker room just yet, to successfully take on the level of hassle that Laine would bring.

 

[jaster]

So hardworking players can't rub off on less industrious players, but laziness is infectious? Interesting....

Who said hardworking players can't rub off on others? Happens all the time, it's part of what makes some players good leaders. Vets teaching kids, a pretty well-known phenomenon, especially in Detroit. But this isn't a binary issue, there is a spectrum. And some guys are too far down the spectrum to be fixed. Some have had several attempts made on them and haven't changed. With some, the juice isn't worth the squeeze, as someone said.

Luckily there's nothing to worry about here, Yzerman ain't bringing Patrik freaking Laine to Detroit, given his history with guys like that.

 

[norrisnick]

Who said hardworking players can't rub off on others? Happens all the time, it's part of what makes some players good leaders. Vets teaching kids, a pretty well-known phenomenon, especially in Detroit. But this isn't a binary issue, there is a spectrum. And some guys are too far down the spectrum to be fixed. Some have had several attempts made on them and haven't changed. With some, the juice isn't worth the squeeze, as someone said.

Luckily there's nothing to worry about here, Yzerman ain't bringing Patrik freaking Laine to Detroit, given his history with guys like that.

And what history is that?

What players like Laine has Yzerman dealt with? I'm curious how far you are willing to stretch this comparison...

 

[jkutswings]

And what history is that?

What players like Laine has Yzerman dealt with? I'm curious how far you are willing to stretch this comparison...

I had assumed that was the point, that Yzerman avoided those players to begin with.

 

[Henkka]

Mixed feelings for this player. Lethal shot, one heck of a goal scorer, but an absolutely lazy human and awful pro.

He’s an absolute man child and hasn’t matured. I think he is what he is and will only thrive in a perfect world type of scenario.

I don’t think he will be worth the asking price either.

You just don't understand Patrik Laine as a person at all.

He is gonna love Babcock and Babcock loves him.

 

[GreytWun]

People were frustrated with Mantha but then want Laine?

 

[JediOrderPizza]

The lack of goal scoring got us looking at any avenue. Look what they have done to us.

 

[norrisnick]

You just don't understand Patrik Laine as a person at all.

He is gonna love Babcock and Babcock loves him.

So... Laine is a masochist? How are normal non-Finn hockey fans supposed to know things like that?

 

[jaster]

And what history is that?

What players like Laine has Yzerman dealt with? I'm curious how far you are willing to stretch this comparison...

None, because he avoids them. That’s the point