Speculation: 2023 Free Agency/Trade Thread

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

You come here complaining other teams are requiring outrageous prices, but you yourself come up just as fickle.

Still yyping up low level prospects (and trading only one of them) to land a top line winger, would be #4 goal scorer for your NHL club for a season and a quarter truly is low balling, especially when that winger wins over 51% FOs, plays the PP, and the PK. Rico probably will produce more on a playoff team.

Lol dude I said I'd probably do the first for Henrique considering the other poster said it was an either or not both. The Filmon/Clarke thing was off the top off my head to the first poster since I don't know many of our forward prospects since a ton have graduated in recent years. Good lord, is every fanbase in the Pacific this hostile about everything? Expecting Holtz+ for Henrique is utterly laughable. Keep him at that point.

 

[anezthes]

Lol dude I said I'd probably do the first for Henrique considering the other poster said it was an either or not both. Good lord, is every fanbase in the Pacific this hostile about everything? Expecting Holtz+ for Henrique is utterly laughable. Keep him at that point.

I'd do Henrique for a 1st. Can't get much worse at this point (*nervous pre-TDL laughter*). Management obviously doesn't seem to give two ****s about the state of the team, so might as well lose 15-0 instead of 7-2.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Lol dude I said I'd probably do the first for Henrique considering the other poster said it was an either or not both. The Filmon/Clarke thing was off the top off my head to the first poster since I don't know many of our forward prospects since a ton have graduated in recent years. Good lord, is every fanbase in the Pacific this hostile about everything? Expecting Holtz+ for Henrique is utterly laughable. Keep him at that point.

2023 1st top 15 protected + Nikita Okhotiuk

Edit - should add that the asking price comes with the expectation that we would be retaining heavily on Henrique.

 

[AngelDuck]

2023 1st top 15 protected + Nikita Okhotiuk

Edit - should add that the asking price comes with the expectation that we would be retaining heavily on Henrique.

Yes the ducks should be looking to retain 50% to maximize the return

Henrique at 2.9 million is one of the bigger bargains in the league

 

[AngelDuck]

So I know I’m dreaming here. But what would it take to get Eilias Pettersson here? I firmly believe he is the player that’s going to be available at some point that I think you pretty much do whatever it takes to get him. Those types of players are rarely out there.

 

[dracom]

So I know I’m dreaming here. But what would it take to get Eilias Pettersson here? I firmly believe he is the player that’s going to be available at some point that I think you pretty much do whatever it takes to get him. Those types of players are rarely out there.

Probably starts with McTavish and one of Drysdale or Mintyukov and our 1st round pick. Might be high but the Canucks trading him to a divisional rival is gonna up that cost; I don't really think it's worth it.

 

[Ducks DVM]

So I know I’m dreaming here. But what would it take to get Eilias Pettersson here? I firmly believe he is the player that’s going to be available at some point that I think you pretty much do whatever it takes to get him. Those types of players are rarely out there.

Vancouver will want one of Zegras, McTavish, Mintyukov, or Zellweger +1st to start. I don’t think you can make that trade until you know where we finish this year.

 

[AngelDuck]

Vancouver will want one of Zegras, McTavish, Mintyukov, or Zellweger +1st to start. I don’t think you can make that trade until you know where we finish this year.

I’m more talking about just offering him a boatload of cash in free agency. Offer him 7 years 13 million AAV

I agree that a trade is unrealistic

 

[Ducks DVM]

I’m more talking about just offering him a boatload of cash in free agency. Offer him 7 years 13 million AAV

I agree that a trade is unrealistic

Oh, gotcha. I’d pull up a pretty good sized truck, but you assume that Vancouver will let him negotiate with other teams so he can get an 8 year contract, then demand that type of return. He’s still RFA next year, so the offer otherwise is said truck plus 4 1sts , which is an easy no.

 

[dracom]

I’m more talking about just offering him a boatload of cash in free agency. Offer him 7 years 13 million AAV

I agree that a trade is unrealistic

he's a rfa though so it would have to be an insane offer sheet for vancouver to not match. i personally don't think he's that type of player worth that kind of cash. I wouldn't offer more than 7x9 if he was a UFA...

 

[AngelDuck]

he's a rfa though so it would have to be an insane offer sheet for vancouver to not match. i personally don't think he's that type of player worth that kind of cash. I wouldn't offer more than 7x9 if he was a UFA...

Well I completely disagree he’s not that type of player and 7X9 seems crazy low ball in the current market. He’s on pace for 100+ points in a bad situation. Not sure what more he could do.

The RFA point is fair though

 

[Deuce22]

Not excuses, just searching for answers. People that want Comtois gone are probably the same ones that thought Terry was trash.

 

[dracom]

Well I completely disagree he’s not that type of player and 7X9 seems crazy low ball in the current market. He’s on pace for 100+ points in a bad situation. Not sure what more he could do.

The RFA point is fair though

i mean, 13 mill for a guy who broke 30 goals once (though im sure he'll brake 30 this season) seems excessive. you really think he deserves more money than McDavid?

then there's also the fact that any team with anyone making double digits aren't going anywhere in the playoffs kind of puts me off the idea of wanting to give him that much.

 

[Leonardo87]

Hey Fellas,

If you don’t have sources or links to sources please don’t make posts assuming rumors or trades happening. Also please refrain from the “libel” talk. Appreciate it .

Thanks

Leo

 

[Ducks DVM]

Not excuses, just searching for answers. People that want Comtois gone are probably the same ones that thought Terry was trash.

I don’t see the comparison. I was probably the first person on the “Terry is promising, hold off on evaluating him” bandwagon. Terry is also the antithesis of Comtois. Demoted? Worked hard in the AHL. Benched? Explained why it happened and then addressed it. Told he needed to go to the dirty areas? Went to the dirty areas. Told he was too small to go to the dirty areas? Bulked up in the off-season. Told that team leaders were needed? Worked on his leadership skills and speaking up.

Comtois - had a great season? Got a nice contract, came to camp severely out of shape, stopped doing the things that allowed him to score well, hasn’t progressed his game in the subsequent two years, gets benched and publicly called out for it.

I’ve been saying for years that Terry will eventually be a coach/GM. I don’t see anyone saying that about Comtois.

I also don’t “want” Comtois gone, but I think that it appears that Comtois wants to be gone, and isn’t willing to do the work that he needs to do to be the player he could be. Sometimes change of scenery trades work out for both players and both teams.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I don’t see the comparison. I was probably the first person on the “Terry is promising, hold off on evaluating him” bandwagon. Terry is also the antithesis of Comtois. Demoted? Worked hard in the AHL. Benched? Explained why it happened and then addressed it. Told he needed to go to the dirty areas? Went to the dirty areas. Told he was too small to go to the dirty areas? Bulked up in the off-season. Told that team leaders were needed? Worked on his leadership skills and speaking up.

Comtois - had a great season? Got a nice contract, came to camp severely out of shape, stopped doing the things that allowed him to score well, hasn’t progressed his game in the subsequent two years, gets benched and publicly called out for it.

I’ve been saying for years that Terry will eventually be a coach/GM. I don’t see anyone saying that about Comtois.

I also don’t “want” Comtois gone, but I think that it appears that Comtois wants to be gone, and isn’t willing to do the work that he needs to do to be the player he could be. Sometimes change of scenery trades work out for both players and both teams.

Agreed. Terry always looked like he was rowing hard but in the wrong direction. At times it looks like Comtois isn't even rowing.

 

[duckpuck]

No argument. But guys who do that, and produce like he’s been, aren’t that terribly difficult to find, and don’t tend to cost 2.5M.

This is a description of a healthy Sam Carrick.

Is Sam Carraick healthy? It certainly seems not. Because he hasn't done much this season and its pretty noticeable.

Leeson and Carrick have been useless and the ducks fourth line has been pretty bad as a result. I'd rather ice Comtois even if its on the fourth line. FWIW, Megna can at least skate and seems like he could be a decent 4th liner with other league average 4th line players (e.g., Grant).

 

[MMC]

Funny to me that people crap all over Leason but act like Comtois still has some upside. Leason is younger than Comtois

 

[Ducks DVM]

Is Sam Carraick healthy? It certainly seems not. Because he hasn't done much this season and its pretty noticeable.

Leeson and Carrick have been useless and the ducks fourth line has been pretty bad as a result. I'd rather ice Comtois even if its on the fourth line. FWIW, Megna can at least skate and seems like he could be a decent 4th liner with other league average 4th line players (e.g., Grant).

I think he is not. Takes a good while to return to form after hip surgery.

 

[bsu]

Funny to me that people crap all over Leason but act like Comtois still has some upside. Leason is younger than Comtois

Has Leason showed more at any level at any time.....?

Comtois has at least shown something.... Of course we want more from him. Leason is what he has has been.

Unless you think Leason is going to turn into something he's never shown.... Sure.

 

[MMC]

Has Leason showed more at any level at any time.....?

Comtois has at least shown something.... Of course we want more from him. Leason is what he has has been.

Unless you think Leason is going to turn into something he's never shown.... Sure.

What he "showed" is irrelevant if he doesn't care to put in the work into reaching that level again. And I don't think particularly highly of either player, I just think people are putting way too much stock into Comtois's 20-21 season

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

2023 1st top 15 protected + Nikita Okhotiuk

Edit - should add that the asking price comes with the expectation that we would be retaining heavily on Henrique.

I wouldn't be opposed to this at all, defense is way more stacked with prospects too if Anaheim is looking at those too.

EDIT: Only thing is a cap dump would have to go the other way for Henrique too which would mean more value Anaheim but Johnsson is expiring.

 

[All Mighty]

Another center off the board.

 

[pbgoalie]

Agreed. Terry always looked like he was rowing hard but in the wrong direction. At times it looks like Comtois isn't even rowing.

Terry was rowing hard

Contains was sitting under umbrella in back of the boat drinking a beer

 

[Frosted Tips]

I can't remember how Comtois looked back then but this season I've noticed his skating doesn't really allow him to get much done with the quick counters where this team seems to get many of it's chances from. I'm sure he would benefit a lot if this team would have more control over the puck but that goes for anyone. Has he always looked so damn stiff? I feel like he never has the time to get much done when I've seen him.