Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

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Vinny Boombatz

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I think he’s become a plus-skater and a plus-stick handler. It’s extremely hard to protect the puck and go inside, to the net, and get a shot off mid-stride, with a guy on you. And he does it a lot. That’s coming with progress to his feet and his puck handling and his overall strength.

I also believe his shot is improve quite a bit. His catch and release, the way it’s coming off of his stick and how he’s added a mid-stride wrister. He was all about hanging out in and ripping one timers. That and mop up. But he’s really bringing some deceptive shot selections to the table these days. And he’s deadly as the bumper on the PP, too. Handling in a hurry, turning and firing.

There was a lot of Hoffman in there. But there’s a lot more Horvat, now.

And I’m talking offense only. He’s also very good defensively, great compete, and kills penalties well. Not like a Hoffman, at all.

Another factor is that he’s doing it on a minus team with a below league average offense, little depth, and two 5’10 linemates without NHL futures (one undrafted and the other a late round pick). Owen Sound ain’t Winnipeg.

My point isn’t that you should have him ranked 8th like I do. I’m not saying he’s a perfect player or that I would argue to much if you told me you had him 13th or whatever.


My point is that he’s a pretty standard issue 5-10th overall pick in almost any draft. That is honestly the only simple little point I was trying to make with my 3,000 word manifesto, here. Haha. :)
and in any other draft I would agree w/you...but there are other guys I like better
 

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Let's say Yotes somehow end up with say 6th and 11th overall...would any of you be willing to trade both to move up to #2? Would whomever gets #2 take that deal?
 

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Let's say Yotes somehow end up with say 6th and 11th overall...would any of you be willing to trade both to move up to #2? Would whomever gets #2 take that deal?
We'd have to add to that for #2. I'd prefer to just let our scouts figure out #6 and #11. (It'll be #9 and #12) I keep thinking with the way Hayton is playing, Cooley and Geekie in the pipeline, and McBain almost a sure thing, the absolute need for a center is lessened, although you always still draft BPA. I'm hoping we get Moore or Yager with the Ottawa pick. No clue who we get with our own. Kind of thinking Benson or Smith fall to us as Reinbacher is climbing.
 

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I think he’s become a plus-skater and a plus-stick handler. It’s extremely hard to protect the puck and go inside, to the net, and get a shot off mid-stride, with a guy on you. And he does it a lot. That’s coming with progress to his feet and his puck handling and his overall strength.

I also believe his shot is improve quite a bit. His catch and release, the way it’s coming off of his stick and how he’s added a mid-stride wrister. He was all about hanging out in and ripping one timers. That and mop up. But he’s really bringing some deceptive shot selections to the table these days. And he’s deadly as the bumper on the PP, too. Handling in a hurry, turning and firing.

There was a lot of Hoffman in there. But there’s a lot more Horvat, now.

And I’m talking offense only. He’s also very good defensively, great compete, and kills penalties well. Not like a Hoffman, at all.

Another factor is that he’s doing it on a minus team with a below league average offense, little depth, and two 5’10 linemates without NHL futures (one undrafted and the other a late round pick). Owen Sound ain’t Winnipeg.

My point isn’t that you should have him ranked 8th like I do. I’m not saying he’s a perfect player or that I would argue to much if you told me you had him 13th or whatever.


My point is that he’s a pretty standard issue 5-10th overall pick in almost any draft. That is honestly the only simple little point I was trying to make with my 3,000 word manifesto, here. Haha. :)
I don't agree that he is a standard 5-10 pick in almost any draft because of his lack playmaking abilities. There is a reason you made a list and compared Barlow for goals only. Go back now and include assists and he is basically the bottom of the list.
 

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I'm hoping we get Moore or Yager with the Ottawa pick. No clue who we get with our own.
We get Moore with our pick if we're at like 7 or 8. If we pick 9th it's a crapshoot between Dvorsky, Barlow and Reinbacher. We probably take Barlow because of his size instead of Dvorsky ... I don't event think BA has the balls to take Reinbacher then (even though he should).

Ideal scenario for us, anywhere between 7-9th we get one of Moore/Dvorsky and with the Ottawa pick (assuming it's between 10th-12th) we get one of Barlow/Reinbacher/Yager. Would personally prefer Reinbacher (due to need), but think BA goes forward.

This all assumes nobody drops from the Top 6 (don't want Sale).
 

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I don't agree that he is a standard 5-10 pick in almost any draft because of his lack playmaking abilities. There is a reason you made a list and compared Barlow for goals only. Go back now and include assists and he is basically the bottom of the list.
Goals only puts him 2nd, and would be elite compared to other 5th overall (average) picks. The lack of assist is why I dropped down to “5-10” and used the word “standard”. Especially when you factor back in the size, skating, complete two way game, and intangibles. He’s a top ten pick in any standard draft.

Let's say Yotes somehow end up with say 6th and 11th overall...would any of you be willing to trade both to move up to #2? Would whomever gets #2 take that deal?
The team picking 2nd would refuse.
 

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We get Moore with our pick if we're at like 7 or 8. If we pick 9th it's a crapshoot between Dvorsky, Barlow and Reinbacher. We probably take Barlow because of his size instead of Dvorsky ... I don't event think BA has the balls to take Reinbacher then (even though he should).

Ideal scenario for us, anywhere between 7-9th we get one of Moore/Dvorsky and with the Ottawa pick (assuming it's between 10th-12th) we get one of Barlow/Reinbacher/Yager. Would personally prefer Reinbacher (due to need), but think BA goes forward.

This all assumes nobody drops from the Top 6 (don't want Sale).
I can’t imagine there won’t be a D taken top 8 because that just doesn’t happen. Reinbacher is likely that player, I think. I think the BA team has shown a willingness to be aggressive on guys they like. Moving up for Geekie, taking Lamoreaux and especially that Moser pick. I think they’re plenty aggressive and show “balls” at the draft table. Cooley over Wright showed that. I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Reinbacher 7th overall.
 
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I think Reinbacher goes between 4-6.

I think Bill would love to get him and might even trade up.
It just takes one guy in the media who is looking for clicks to start a rumor and everyone jumps on the wagon. :)
 

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Too much theoretical bs going on in this thread. How about we just wait until we actually know where we are picking and then go from there?
How about you mind your own business? You don’t own this thread and nobody forced you to read it. Acknowledge you’re not the boss and go from there?
 

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How about you mind your own business? You don’t own this thread and nobody forced you to read it.
hahah! I've been reading your theoretical posts for months old man! I like some of your takes, but you focus too much on hypotheticals instead of letting things play out. maybe this maybe that...

EDIT: Also colby barlow will not be drafted by the Yotes! How is that for hypothetical! ;)
 
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hahah! I've been reading your theoretical posts for months old man! I like some of your takes, but you focus too much on hypotheticals instead of letting things play out. maybe this maybe that...

EDIT: Also colby barlow will not be drafted by the Yotes! How is that for hypothetical! ;)
Don you think BA has to do the exact same thing?
 

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Don you think BA has to do the exact same thing?
I think BA and staff will wait until they know where their picks are going to be, and then focus on which players they will draft with those picks. Right now they're focusing on scouting guys and putting them into tiers.
 
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hahah! I've been reading your theoretical posts for months old man! I like some of your takes, but you focus too much on hypotheticals instead of letting things play out. maybe this maybe that...

EDIT: Also colby barlow will not be drafted by the Yotes! How is that for hypothetical! ;)
I can’t tell you how little this means to me. I could not care less.
 
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Too much theoretical bs going on in this thread. How about we just wait until we actually know where we are picking and then go from there?
Yeah. Let's just shut down this thread until the draft lottery is complete. For the sake of equal treatment, the draft threads on other team sub-forums should also be locked until then.
Maybe to help resist temptation of opening new threads we can put the internet on pause too.
 

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Yeah. Let's just shut down this thread until the draft lottery is complete. For the sake of equal treatment, the draft threads on other team sub-forums should also be locked until then.
Maybe to help resist temptation of opening new threads we can put the internet on pause too.
Nothing is really decided until the finality of death. Let’s get Joe and Vlad to press the big red buttons. Everything is just speculation until we are all eviscerated in a nuclear holocaust, anyway. No point in discussing anything until the globe is a roiling hellfire of nuclear fallout and we’re all just puddles of glowing ooze.
 

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Maybe we hit a bit of a skid and so does Ottawa and we end up 6th and 9th. LA loses in the 1st round and the pick going to Columbus is like early 20s. We trade our 2nd (38th) and Vejmelka for that pick and Tarasov. We grab Reinbacher, Barlow, and a Russian factor falling Gulyayev.

This would be one hell of a way to tackle the 2023 draft without a top five pick
 
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I don't think most of you understand. Maybe age is just getting to some of you! The only thing that is annoying are the what ifs about where we are picking. Discuss draft prospects all you want, but I think it is stupid to sit here and talk about drafting 7 & 11 or 6 & 13 etc. Just wait until the lottery and then go from there ffs.
 
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Only on HFBoards......

Where can you have a discussion that runs an entire page (and more) about the theoretical worthiness of a discussion.

:biglaugh:


Let you all in on a little secret..... There will be a new "GDT" style thread for the draft itself to replace this one.
 
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