Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Interesting how smith, Perrault and Leonard aren’t getting close to the same hype that the 2019 US kids got, despite all having some dominant point totals

 

[RedBeard]

Not everyone's favorite scout (M. Seidel), but worth an alt perspective:

 

[rt]

Not everyone's favorite scout (M. Seidel), but worth an alt perspective:

Rehkopf at 73 is dumb. Especially with Musty at 19. I’d probably take Rehkopf over him.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Rehkopf at 73 is dumb. Especially with Musty at 19. I’d probably take Rehkopf over him.

You and me both...headscratcher for sure. Also Cristall at 7, no chance that dude goes before the 20th pick

 

[moosemeister]

I would be pleasantly pleased if we can leave this draft with Reinbacher and Honzek

 

[Half Clapper]

Wood at 27 & Heidt at 28? His list is very bad

 

[Magonus1703]

If he doesn't even know how to spell the players' names (Gulyaev, Dragacevic) how much does he actually know about the players? I don't like that list at all.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Guys, I just had a dream we drafted 1st, 8th, and 11th. It's now been foretold.

 

[Jakey53]

Guys, I just had a dream we drafted 1st, 8th, and 11th. It's now been foretold.

Were your pants wet?

 

[rt]

I would be pleasantly pleased if we can leave this draft with Reinbacher and Honzek

I’d be good with that.

Wood at 27 & Heidt at 28? His list is very bad

After watching the WHL behind the scenes draft series, I started thinking about Yager with our pick and Heidt with Ottawas (assuming both teams win too many games). Both I see both as C/W hybrids. One as a sniper and the other a playmaker. Two BFFs who have a lot to like in their games. I’m not hoping for it. But it would be kinda cool. Even if I don’t personally rank them so highly.

 

[Half Clapper]

I’d be good with that.


After watching the WHL behind the scenes draft series, I started thinking about Yager with our pick and Heidt with Ottawas (assuming both teams win too many games). Both I see both as C/W hybrids. One as a sniper and the other a playmaker. Two BFFs who have a lot to like in their games. I’m not hoping for it. But it would be kinda cool. Even if I don’t personally rank them so highly.

Hey, I wouldn't complain about two good ol' Sasky boys suiting up for the Yotes. We breed them different up here! Yager seems like a good kid based on that video also. Seems like he has good character.

 

[hbk]

 

[rt]

NHL Draft consensus ranking: Most divisive players, top defensemen and goalies, more

How do the draft lists of Corey Pronman, Scott Wheeler and Bob McKenzie stack up — and what can be learned from the differences?

theathletic.com

 

[Grimes]

NHL Draft consensus ranking: Most divisive players, top defensemen and goalies, more

How do the draft lists of Corey Pronman, Scott Wheeler and Bob McKenzie stack up — and what can be learned from the differences?

theathletic.com

Man I'd be very happy with two players in that 6-16 range

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Guys, I just had a dream we drafted 1st, 8th, and 11th. It's now been foretold.

Is this possible?. You guys have only two picks in the 1st right?

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Is this possible?. You guys have only two picks in the 1st right?

.....for now.....

 

[rt]

Man I'd be very happy with two players in that 6-16 range

I’m trying to make a ranking and it’s really impossible.

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Michkov
4. Benson
5. Carlsson
6. Smith
7. Reinbacher
8. Barlow
9. Honzek
10. Yager
11. Moore
12. Ritchie
13. Leonard
14. Dvorsky
15. Wood
16. Dragicevic
17. Sale
18. Heidt
19. Danielson
20. Stramel

Between 9-19 I may end up completely scrambling that order entirely in the next few weeks.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I just don't see Barlow having top 10 upside...too many guys behind him have higher ceilings than Barlow. I like him, just not in the top 10.

 

[rt]

I just don't see Barlow having top 10 upside...too many guys behind him have higher ceilings than Barlow. I like him, just not in the top 10.

Middle ceiling range is Edmonton Hyman, while middle floor is Toronto Hyman? Haha.

He’s above average at all things but seems to be very intelligent on the ice, has a shot that is a difference maker, and has all the hallmarks of being a character contributor.

I had Cutter Gauthier 5th or 6th overall in the last draft. Barlow is pretty much a winger version of that, right? More or less?

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Middle ceiling range is Edmonton Hyman, while middle floor is Toronto Hyman? Haha.

He’s above average at all things but seems to be very intelligent on the ice, has a shot that is a difference maker, and has all the hallmarks of being a character contributor.

I had Cutter Gauthier 5th or 6th overall in the last draft. Barlow is pretty much a winger version of that, right? More or less?

Yeah, you're funny.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Is this possible?. You guys have only two picks in the 1st right?

Correct.

Didn't ask my dream self any questions, similar to when it's a hot chick popping in. Whatever I'm doing is working and I'm going to live it up while it lasts lol.

 

[rt]

Yeah, you're funny.

Barlow has 59gp and 46g as of today. How does he stack up against recent Top 10 picks from the CHL in their draft years?

2022
4th Wright - 63gp 32g
8th Savoie - 65gp 35g

2021 *COVID*

2020
1st Lafreniere - 52gp 35g
2nd Byfield - 45gp 32g
8th Quinn - 62gp 52g
9th Rossi - 56gp 39g
10th Perfetti - 61gp 37g

2019
3rd Dach - 62gp 25g
7th Cozens- 68gp 34g

2018
2nd Svechnikov - 44gp 40g
5th Hayton - 63gp 21g
6th Zadina - 57gp 44g

2017
1st Hischier - 57gp 38g
2nd Patrick - 33gp 20g
6th Glass - 69gp 32g
9th Rasmussen - 50gp 32g
10th Tippett - 60gp 44g

 

[rt]

That’s 17 kids in those five classes. Barlow would rank 2nd among them in goals.

On average, those 17 profile as a 5th overall pick (5.47th overall - lol), who had 57gp and 34g.

What does that mean? Well nothing. Because it’s just goal scoring. But among top 10 picks in the NHL draft, he’s one of the most prolific goal scorers in recent history.

I think he definitely does fit the typical profile of a Top 10 pick. Exceeds it really. Given he doesn’t have mobility or size or character or nationality concerns and his goal scoring is so much higher than typical. He grades out on these VERY narrow parameters as more like a Top 5 pick in an average top five (at least recently).

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

and if we were just looking at stats, I'd agree w/you...but he doesn't have a great shot, not a plus stick-handler, not a plus-skater, not a plus passer...

The one thing is is that he seems to always be at the right place at the right time, so again, when he starts to play with the big boys, not sure his offense is going to translate. Which is why he's still inside my top 15, just not in the top 10.

 

[rt]

and if we were just looking at stats, I'd agree w/you...but he doesn't have a great shot, not a plus stick-handler, not a plus-skater, not a plus passer...

The one thing is is that he seems to always be at the right place at the right time, so again, when he starts to play with the big boys, not sure his offense is going to translate. Which is why he's still inside my top 15, just not in the top 10.

I think he’s become a plus-skater and a plus-stick handler. It’s extremely hard to protect the puck and go inside, to the net, and get a shot off mid-stride, with a guy on you. And he does it a lot. That’s coming with progress to his feet and his puck handling and his overall strength.

I also believe his shot is improve quite a bit. His catch and release, the way it’s coming off of his stick and how he’s added a mid-stride wrister. He was all about hanging out in and ripping one timers. That and mop up. But he’s really bringing some deceptive shot selections to the table these days. And he’s deadly as the bumper on the PP, too. Handling in a hurry, turning and firing.

There was a lot of Hoffman in there. But there’s a lot more Horvat, now.

And I’m talking offense only. He’s also very good defensively, great compete, and kills penalties well. Not like a Hoffman, at all.

Another factor is that he’s doing it on a minus team with a below league average offense, little depth, and two 5’10 linemates without NHL futures (one undrafted and the other a late round pick). Owen Sound ain’t Winnipeg.

My point isn’t that you should have him ranked 8th like I do. I’m not saying he’s a perfect player or that I would argue to much if you told me you had him 13th or whatever.


My point is that he’s a pretty standard issue 5-10th overall pick in almost any draft. That is honestly the only simple little point I was trying to make with my 3,000 word manifesto, here. Haha.