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Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

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dv018 said:
I'll be happy with Dvorsky at 6 and Leonard at 12. I think that's probably what happens barring either me being completely wrong, draft lists changing, or someone falling.
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More likely one or the other not both?

Neither would seem to last until 12?
 
dv018 said:
I'll be happy with Dvorsky at 6 and Leonard at 12. I think that's probably what happens barring either me being completely wrong, draft lists changing, or someone falling.
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Leonard won’t last until 12th. I think 8th or 9th is the absolute latest. That’s if he makes it pst Philly at 7th. He was the 7th guy on Bob’s list.
 
Llewzaher said:
yeah I think I would rather have him than Dvorsky , but I dont follow these guys as much as you guys do
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I didn’t get to see Leonard much this season, honestly. A few USHL games and the u18s. I got to see him a lot last season, for whatever that’s worth.

As for Dvorsky, I’ve literally never seen him play a league game. Haha. Just tournaments.

Point is, your opinion is as good as mine. I don’t get a ton of views outside of the CHL. And even if I did, I’m not a scout. Haha. I just watch games and pick out kids who do stuff I like. Lol.
 
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dv018 said:
I have him ahead of Fantilli and below Michkov, which I think probably exactly zero people agree with me about.
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I share your opinion on this. Michkov would be to be number 2 in this draft if it wasn't the Russia question. I value Carlsson's strengths over Fantillis, even though I believe both of them will be 1C's (for anyone questioning Carlsson at C, he's been 1C for Three Crowns for quite a few games now).

If anyone of the top five (my fifth would be Benson whom I regard higher than Smith due to motor) drops to 6th I'd be ecstatic.

I want a D at 12, even though it should always be BPA.
 
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XX said:
There's minimal seperation between 6 and roughly 14 if the top 5 goes as expected. BA rolled the dice and is going to get 2 great players as a result.
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I felt strongly about this before the U18's, but I think Dvorsky has really created another tier, or is edging his way to the same one as Carlsson/Smith . Because of his rise and Leonard's rise I feel like there is a new tier between them and the Moore's/Barlow's/Woods of the draft.
Tier 1: Bedard
Tier 2: Fantilli, Michkov
Tier 3: Carlsson, Smith,
Tier 4: Dvorsky, Leonard, Benson, Reinbacher (mostly just due to position)
Tier 5: 10-13
Tier 6: 14-22
Tier 7: 23-32

YotesFan47 said:
6. Leonard
12. Danielson

That's a BA draft, and one I would be happy with.
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I think I like that more than
6. Dvorsky
12. Wood/Moore

Keller-Cooley-Guenther
Leonard-Danielson-Maccelli
vs
Keller-Cooley-Guenther
Moore-Dvorsky-Maccelli

rt said:
Is Philly going to rebuild? They’ve had their pick reserve seriously depleted. I don’t think 12th, 38th, and 70th gets us to 7th, though.
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I don't want to only pick twice in the top 64 so I'm not crazy about that, even if it secures Leonard + Dvorsky. But I doubt Philly goes for it either. If we had multiple 2nds this year I'd happily do 12th + 38th + 24 2nd + 70th
 
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Nagatoarek said:
I share your opinion on this. Michkov would be to be number 2 in this draft if it wasn't the Russia question. I value Carlsson's strengths over Fantillis, even though I believe both of them will be 1C's (for anyone questioning Carlsson at C, he's been 1C for Three Crowns for quite a few games now).

If anyone of the top five (my fifth would be Benson whom I regard higher than Smith due to motor) drops to 6th I'd be ecstatic.

I want a D at 12, even though it should always be BPA.
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Always take BPA in the first round, if it's a tie take D or C over W, you don't want to miss big. We took Strome because of position when Marner was clearly BPA. In 2nd and third rounds, you can draft more on potential BPA, it's a guess anyway, long odds to get an impact player.

Interesting draft odds of getting an NHL player by round here: https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/
Our top 2 picks have a 74% chance of playing at least 100 NHL games, drops like a rock after the top 25 picks, 1 out of 3 second round picks, and 1 out of 4 third round picks play 100 games or more. BA touts his staff, we will find out if we beat the odds and get a higher percentage of second round picks to be NHL players than the current 35% average.

Getting an impact player is in the top 5 picks generally, but we have a 50/50 shot with 6 and 12. If we can draft a keller and Chych player at those spots we succeeded. They are more of make sure you don't make a mistake picks (Gormley/Runblad), then they are hit it out of the park picks.
 
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I know I have said it before, but this team really needs to draft Matt Wood. Idc if it is with the 6th pick. The kid is going to be a helluva player in the show one day. He fits everything that I like in a player. Great size, nice hands, versatile, high IQ, and has a damn good shot. Skating might not be there, but people also said Matt Tkachuk was a weak skater in Jr too. How has his career turned out?
 
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XX said:
Better question than the 1sts is how the 4 3rd rounders get used.

Hrabal at 38 if Strbak is gone?
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Sounded like Ba was optimistic he could use some picks to get another late first this year. 2nd and a couple 3rds for a puck in that 25-32 range?
 
hbk said:
Sounded like Ba was optimistic he could use some picks to get another late first this year. 2nd and a couple 3rds for a puck in that 25-32 range?
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Toronto would seem like a good candidate to do this. They’ve had their pick reserve plundered big time. They’ve got Boston’s 1st from the Sandin trade but no 2nd, no 3rd and no 4th. The AZ 2nd, AZ 3rd and WSH 3rd are all very early in the round.
 
habs pick 5, if Michkov is still not picked what would you offer the habs to switch picks so you get Michkov
 
RC51 said:
habs pick 5, if Michkov is still not picked what would you offer the habs to switch picks so you get Michkov
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I call that bluff. I don't think the Habs will take him honestly. If not, he's ours. And if they do, I sprint to the podium and take Leonard. Either way, I'm happier than a puppy on a pork chop.
 
The only late 1st traded for later picks in the last 5 years was in 2021 - pick 27 for 40 + 51 or a late 1st for two mid-2nds.

In 2019, we traded 14 + 45 to get 11th overall.

How about trading with Nashville? 12th for 15th + 46th?

Nashville has stocked a pile of picks in this draft, but their first pick isn't until 15. I could get excited by a bunch of those guys in the 12-18 range as our 2nd pick. Maybe Nashville would like to jump up and get "their guy".

Gives us an extra pick in the 2nd round to work with.
 
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I have yet to watch a ton of Leonard film but everything about the guy screams future captain material. Sounds like a perfect compliment to a player like Maccelli or Keller. Throw in Barlow at 12 and we have some serious character injection.
 
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