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Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

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The Feckless Puck said:
If Michkov is still there at 12, we absolutely take him.

I don't think we take him at 6, though. Just my feeling.
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BA mentioned awhile back that if you have 2 picks in the same vicinity you have the option of making one of those a risky pick. I'd be good with taking a safe pick at 6 and taking a risk at 12. That could be Michkov or one of the more inconsistent players with high ceilings like Sale or Yager.
 
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BAdvocate said:
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Leonard seems like an ideal fit for Philly...
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He’s very similar to what they just drafted in Gauthier, though. So that could mean he’s their type or that he’s redundant. Could go either way. The need C and D more than W thought.

Art.Vandelay said:
BA mentioned awhile back that if you have 2 picks in the same vicinity you have the option of making one of those a risky pick. I'd be good with taking a safe pick at 6 and taking a risk at 12. That could be Michkov or one of the more inconsistent players with high ceilings like Sale or Yager.
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But then yesterday he was talking all passionately about champions who sacrifice and block shots with their faces and blood and guts and victory and all that. Team first guys.

Doesn’t sound like high ceiling, low motor, dipsey doodle danglers are high on the priority list.
 
Yeah, Sale is pretty invisable 80% of the time. You don't see him battling in the corners and coming out with the puck. Not a BA type player. I don't think he'd take him with an early 2nd. He's dropped out of my top 18 list from last week. Dvorsky has moved ahead of both Smith and Benson for me as well on that list.
 
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Jagged Ice said:
Yeah, Sale is pretty invisable 80% of the time. You don't see him battling in the corners and coming out with the puck. Not a BA type player. I don't think he'd take him with an early 2nd. He's dropped out of my top 18 list from last week. Dvorsky has moved ahead of both Smith and Benson for me as well on that list.
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I don’t have any doubts that BA was talking about Dvorsky and Leonard yesterday. They’re the only names that fit the profile.

They’re rated 6th and 7th on the McKenzie poll, so right in our range. They were the blood and guts leaders on their teams. The clutch performers and the engines.

He must mean them. Nobody else makes sense.
 
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Not sure if it's been said but Pronman's post lottery mock has us with Reinbacher and Perrault.

His reasoning for Reinbacher was that with us having #12 we'd want to make sure we get the top D in the draft given this drafts depth at forward, and shallowness at D. Wood and Yager also mentioned at 12
 
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LuckyNumber11 said:
Not sure if it's been said but Pronman's post lottery mock has us with Reinbacher and Perrault.

His reasoning for Reinbacher was that with us having #12 we'd want to make sure we get the top D in the draft given this drafts depth at forward, and shallowness at D. Wood and Yager also mentioned at 12
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I agree with that logic, assuming they don't have a mid to late first grade on Reinbacher. That he can sign and play right away is just gravy.
 
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LuckyNumber11 said:
Not sure if it's been said but Pronman's post lottery mock has us with Reinbacher and Perrault.

His reasoning for Reinbacher was that with us having #12 we'd want to make sure we get the top D in the draft given this drafts depth at forward, and shallowness at D. Wood and Yager also mentioned at 12
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Next year's draft is so much better with defenseman. If they have Reinbacher rated that high, I'm fine with it. But reaching for a D prospect when there are a ton next year seems rather impatient.
 
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rt said:
I don’t have any doubts that BA was talking about Dvorsky and Leonard yesterday. They’re the only names that fit the profile.

They’re rated 6th and 7th on the McKenzie poll, so right in our range. They were the blood and guts leaders on their teams. The clutch performers and the engines.

He must mean them. Nobody else makes sense.
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I agree. Probably a pass on Michkov over them from BA. I bet it's Dvorsky then Leonard. Maybe both if Leonard falls to 12th. That would be an excellent first round.
 
From what I've read, Michkov has the chance to be a generational player. Politics will only drop him so far. If he is there at six, I want him. If not, I want a big, big ransom to drop back from somebody desperate for him. An extra 2nd, even a high second, isn't nearly enough.
 
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If Michkov is available at 6, I am expecting that we won't be picking him. We just secure a formidable player without the uncertainty/the 3 years wait/the russian factor etc.

However I am also expecting that BA will have pretty indecent offers to make to try to trade up from 12th to pick 7th/8th/9th to then pick Michkov.

It is unlikely - except lottery luck - that we will be in a position to draft a player like him in the near future. And with the 40+picks available in the coming draft, there is probably an offer to be made that cannot be refused.
 
moosemeister said:
Next year's draft is so much better with defenseman. If they have Reinbacher rated that high, I'm fine with it. But reaching for a D prospect when there are a ton next year seems rather impatient.
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Yeah - if we accept that a theoretical Michkov pick would not even begin to bear fruit for three years, and we're okay with that, then there should be no reason at all to believe that waiting until next draft to get a potential star defenseman would be an issue.

Load up with top forwards this year, and use the massive amount of depth picks toward the later rounds for the meat-and-potatoes D-men, then next year we get our star blueliner.

The good news is that we are absolutely dealing from a position of strength in case people want to trade up. Imagine someone wanting Michkov so desperately at 6 that they'll make us a Godfather style offer - with our pick at 12, we can afford to be greedy.
 
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We have a lot of players in the pipeline. What if we attempt to package 6 and 12 for 2 or 3, to get Carrlson or Fantilli?
 
lanky said:
It's very possible.
Coyotes were very interested in Nemec last draft.
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I like Nemec a whole heckuva lot better.

Jagged Ice said:
I agree. Probably a pass on Michkov over them from BA. I bet it's Dvorsky then Leonard. Maybe both if Leonard falls to 12th. That would be an excellent first round.
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I don’t think Leonard will fall to 12th now that I’ve seen him at 7th on Bob’s list.

I’m slowly wrapping my mind around the fact that the pros are higher on him than I have been.

Leonard's stats vs NCAA D1 teams: 14G 14A 28Pts in 17GP

Thanks to @sigx15 for those numbers.
 
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Bonsai Tree said:
We have a lot of players in the pipeline. What if we attempt to package 6 and 12 for 2 or 3, to get Carrlson or Fantilli?
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I don't think there's a deal to be had that doesn't cripple our rebuild. But beyond that, I think that BA and co. are simply thrilled to have a shot at quality and quantity by remaining where they are. BA keeps talking about "loading up" on good players, and I don't think he thinks that getting an incremental upgrade on one pick would be worth the cost to the franchise that the deal would represent.
 
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BA noted once about the danger of too many young players coming aboard at the same time. We have Guenther, Cooley, Geekie, Doan, Nemeth, Fedotov, and #6 and maybe 12 arriving in the next 2 seasons. Too many, and too young a squad. I would really like to trade some young talent for a sure fire 1C in the draft.

The Feckless Puck said:
I don't think there's a deal to be had that doesn't cripple our rebuild. But beyond that, I think that BA and co. are simply thrilled to have a shot at quality and quantity by remaining where they are. BA keeps talking about "loading up" on good players, and I don't think he thinks that getting an incremental upgrade on one pick would be worth the cost to the franchise that the deal would represent.
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#2 or #3 is clearly much more than an incremental upgrade from #6 in this year's draft.
 
Bonsai Tree said:
#2 or #3 is clearly much more than an incremental upgrade from #6 in this year's draft.
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Not enough of one to justify the cost, though. We'd need 6, 12, some of the 2nds, and possibly an actual player asset before anyone would even start discussing it. I just don't see BA even thinking about that.
 
The Feckless Puck said:
Not enough of one to justify the cost, though. We'd need 6, 12, some of the 2nds, and possibly an actual player asset before anyone would even start discussing it. I just don't see BA even thinking about that.
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Agree to disagree. For a generational player, a 1C, I would most certainly make the attempt.
 
If Michkov is there at 6, I have no doubts BA and the team has held discussions with him. If he's shown an interest in joining, he'll probably get picked because there's just no player who is better than him that'll be available. I still regard him as the 2nd best prospect in the draft.

I doubt they'd pick him unless they've held concrete talks with him prior to see if he has the interest in playing here.
 
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rt said:
I don’t think Leonard will fall to 12th now that I’ve seen him at 7th on Bob’s list.

I’m slowly wrapping my mind around the fact that the pros are higher on him than I have been.

Leonard's stats vs NCAA D1 teams: 14G 14A 28Pts in 17GP

Thanks to @sigx15 for those numbers.
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Leonard is fearless, aggressive, a big hitter and mean. He's also played with Logan Cooley and they had chemistry. I've wanted Leonard with the Ottawa pick since we acquired it. He just seemed like a very safe pick to me. Now I see even more and agree he will probably be gone. I give the edge to Dvorsky at #6 though. I think. Pretty sure I prefer both to Smith just because of their work ethic.
 
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