Pre-Game Talk: 2023/24 Training Camp

[Gruyeriev]

Another break away for Ivan Ivan. Beat goalie and hits post.

You mean Ivan “legend of the ECHL” Ivan? I like him too. Seems like he will make the Eagles this year.

 

[Metallo]

JFC Olausson with 3 botched exits in a single shift.

 

[lionsDen]

Not sure if Ivan Ivan should ever make the team. Not interested in hearing that name all day, and not interested in even one quip about it from any color commentator or Liles.

ivans of the world unite, we will not stand for this injustice :!

Lol

 

[wayninja]

Didn't even need Nichushkin

 

[Metallo]

Ivan Squared!

 

[JLo217]

Only caught some glimpses of this. Who are we excited about? Polin and Ivan squared?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

You mean Ivan “legend of the ECHL” Ivan? I like him too. Seems like he will make the Eagles this year.

It would be an injustice if Stienburg makes it over him. I think he makes it over Sandlin and maybe a disappointment like Beaucage.

Only caught some glimpses of this. Who are we excited about? Polin and Ivan squared?

Ivan with another 2 goals and a few more great chances. Great offensive hockey sense, tracks the puck well. Hanzel scored a nice goal, pin point wrister and knew how to jump into the play. Everyone else was just solid and hustled all over the ice. OO clearly super talented but if its not an individual effort, he's not doing much.

 

[Gruyeriev]

Only caught some glimpses of this. Who are we excited about? Polin and Ivan squared?

Also thought Hanzel played well but I’m a T-Birds fan so I guess I’m biased.

I’d say O.O. And Steinburg stood out as the suckiest of the bunch.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Only caught some glimpses of this. Who are we excited about? Polin and Ivan squared?

Hanzel as well.

Olausson has been invisible in the first game and terrible today. Not looking good so far. He needs to pick it up by a bunch.

 

[Metallo]

Hanzel as well.

Olausson has been invisible in the first game and terrible today. Not looking good so far. He needs to pick it up by a bunch.

Yeah, OO got a bad penalty and got rough up all game. Maybe he thinks he's above these Rookie tournaments because he scored some NHL preseason goals.

 

[Alex Jones]

Kinda crazy how the oldest list, and youngest list is only separated by .4 years.

Pro Athletes age very quickly. Shows you how short a window really is

 

[the_fan]

You guys make too much out of the whole Olausson thing. If he doesn’t pan out it’s not a big surprise. The dude was drafted 28 overall in a bad draft. It’s not like he’s a top 10 pick or anything

 

[JoeSakic13]

JFC Olausson with 3 botched exits in a single shift.

 

[Metallo]

You guys make too much out of the whole Olausson thing. If he doesn’t pan out it’s not a big surprise. The dude was drafted 28 overall in a bad draft. It’s not like he’s a top 10 pick or anything

At some point the Avs have to find talent deeper in the draft. Their record is atrocious. The problem with OO is that he is regressing. He needs to find the right mindset.

 

[the_fan]

At some point the Avs have to find talent deeper in the draft. Their record is atrocious. The problem with OO is that he is regressing. He needs to find the right mindset.

I agree as far as Avs needing to find talent deeper in the draft, but this particular draft where they drafted Olausson at 28 wasn’t that draft because it was a weak draft. However, I hope they get a player out of Ritchie. This was a deeper draft and they kept the picks instead of trading them so they need Ritchie or Gulyayev to pan out, or both

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Also thought Hanzel played well but I’m a T-Birds fan so I guess I’m biased.

I’d say O.O. And Steinburg stood out as the suckiest of the bunch.

Milic had a 39-save win today as well.

 

[UncleRisto]

Milic had a 39-save win today as well.

Who the hell is that?

 

[S E P H]

Who the hell is that?

A coupon hoarder.

 

[Gruyeriev]

Who the hell is that?

Seattle Thunderbirds goalie Thomas Milic. He is a Winnipeg draft pick from 2023.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Who the hell is that?

A goalie actually worth taking in the later rounds rather than the 4th overalls no. 2 goalie on his junior team or some random tall goalie that doesn't know how to play goalie.

 

[UncleRisto]

Seattle Thunderbirds goalie Thomas Milic. He is a Winnipeg draft pick from 2023.

A goalie actually worth taking in the later rounds rather than the 4th overalls no. 2 goalie on his junior team or some random tall goalie that doesn't know how to play goalie.

Oh, okay. You can draft those?

 

[Gruyeriev]

Oh, okay. You can draft those?

If your amateur scouting department is competent you can

Actually in Milic’s case he was drafted in the 5th round (151OA) so we couldn’t have gotten him this year anyway but our goalie history is pretty bad.

We shall see if our new Director of Scouting actually gets a chance to make his mark on our system. I’m not sure if Kippenstein or Kono are still in touch with O’Dette but I feel like they must have been in order to take Hanzel with their 6th.

I should point out he was taken 4 spots before we drafted Ishimnikov.

 

[DanishAvsfan]

A goalie actually worth taking in the later rounds rather than the 4th overalls no. 2 goalie on his junior team or some random tall goalie that doesn't know how to play goalie.

So when do we start a gofundme page so we can hire you as an amateur scout the Avs?

 

[dahrougem2]

At some point the Avs have to find talent deeper in the draft. Their record is atrocious. The problem with OO is that he is regressing. He needs to find the right mindset.

What's crazy is this drafting feels like punishment for how insane the Avs' scouting staff was at finding legitimate NHLers from 1996 - 2004. Just look at this track record:

1996:
Mark Parrish - 3rd Round
Brian Willsie - 6th Round
Dan Hinote - 7th Round
Samuel Pahlsson - 7th Round

1997:
Ville Neimenen - 3rd Round
David Aebischer - 6th Round

1998:
Alex Tanguay - 1st Round
Martin Skoula - 1st Round
Robyn Regehr - 1st Round
Steve Moore - 2nd Round

1999:
Branko Radivojevic - 3rd Round
Riku Hahl - 6th Round
Radim Vrbata - 7th Round
Jeff Finger - 8th Round

2000:
Kurt Sauer - 3rd Round
John-Michael Liles - 5th Round

2001:
Peter Budaj - 2nd Round
Cody McCormick - 5th Round
Marek Svatos - 7th Round

2002:
Johnny Boychuk - 2nd Round
Tom Gilbert - 4th Round

2003:
Brad Richardson - 5th Round
David Jones - 9th Round

2004:
Wojtek Wolski - 1st Round
Brandon Yip - 8th Round

2005:
Paul Stastny - 2nd Round

It really falls off after 2005 save for the 2009 grand slam draft with Duchene, O'Reilly, and Barrie. Felt like every year, though, the Avs were getting legitimate NHL talent drafted whether they played for the Avs or were used in trades.

IMO if you can come out of every draft with 2 NHL caliber players, your scouting staff is doing its job. For 9 years in a row the Avs staff could say they did that. Not anymore.

 

[Gruyeriev]

What's crazy is this drafting feels like punishment for how insane the Avs' scouting staff was at finding legitimate NHLers from 1996 - 2004. Just look at this track record:

1996:
Mark Parrish - 3rd Round
Brian Willsie - 6th Round
Dan Hinote - 7th Round
Samuel Pahlsson - 7th Round

1997:
Ville Neimenen - 3rd Round
David Aebischer - 6th Round

1998:
Alex Tanguay - 1st Round
Martin Skoula - 1st Round
Robyn Regehr - 1st Round
Steve Moore - 2nd Round

1999:
Branko Radivojevic - 3rd Round
Riku Hahl - 6th Round
Radim Vrbata - 7th Round
Jeff Finger - 8th Round

2000:
Kurt Sauer - 3rd Round
John-Michael Liles - 5th Round

2001:
Peter Budaj - 2nd Round
Cody McCormick - 5th Round
Marek Svatos - 7th Round

2002:
Johnny Boychuk - 2nd Round
Tom Gilbert - 4th Round

2003:
Brad Richardson - 5th Round
David Jones - 9th Round

2004:
Wojtek Wolski - 1st Round
Brandon Yip - 8th Round

2005:
Paul Stastny - 2nd Round

It really falls off after 2005 save for the 2009 grand slam draft with Duchene, O'Reilly, and Barrie. Felt like every year, though, the Avs were getting legitimate NHL talent drafted whether they played for the Avs or were used in trades.

IMO if you can come out of every draft with 2 NHL caliber players, your scouting staff is doing its job. For 9 years in a row the Avs staff could say they did that. Not anymore.

You forgot Scott Parker from 1998