Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[EdAVSfan]

You need 4 Cs.

I don’t disagree.

But Drouin isn’t a C.

So if a top 6C gets hurt, all the Cs will move up a slot.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I don’t disagree.

But Drouin isn’t a C.

So if a top 6C gets hurt, all the Cs will move up a slot.

Asking because Drouin is one of the best passers on the team, when on his game. The Avs have defensive W options that they can put next to him. His passing could blend a line if he’s having a good year.

The Avs don’t have a lot of W to C candidates otherwise.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

I always love the, ‘what happens when key players get injured?’

You soldier on in the regular season and then you lose in the playoffs if you’re not healthy enough. There’s an element of luck involved. Just is what it is.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Love the “soldier on” fairy.

 

[Balthazar]

We need this man back.

I'm way more interested with the whole Mercedes vs $400k vs iPad thing. What is that all about?

Is he saying that Canadians recieve only an iPad to play at the world cup while Russians get 400k + a Mercedes?

 

[EdAVSfan]

Asking because Drouin is one of the best passers on the team, when on his game. The Avs have defensive W options that they can put next to him. His passing could blend a line if he’s having a good year.

The Avs don’t have a lot of W to C candidates otherwise.

I get it.

There are elements to his game that make him an intrigue at center.

The problem is, for all of the things that are intriguing, there are a whole slew of other things that make him a terrible C.

If you want to make the most of that passing ability, then you need to put him on the PP, and on the wing where there’s limited scenarios.

On the wing he has his defender, and the boards. Much simpler game for him. And more importantly, more time to make those passes.

He’s not a center. There’s just simply too much that holds him back from being effective at that position.

 

[MarkT]

Asking because Drouin is one of the best passers on the team, when on his game. The Avs have defensive W options that they can put next to him. His passing could blend a line if he’s having a good year.

The Avs don’t have a lot of W to C candidates otherwise.

The Habs thought the same thing when they got him from Tampa. They literally announced him as a center and he fielded questions about playing there, saying he was confident. I don't remember exactly how long the experiment lasted, but it was a disaster. Drouin simply does not appear to be able to track the game well in the defensive zone. He forgets were players are and seems to be easily deceived by smart players. Even as a winger I worry about his defensive game. The only way he works at center is if they have his winger actually doing the defensive work down low like how Landeskog and MacKinnon used to work.

 

[Balthazar]

I agree with AJ about the defense here...

Checking in on the Colorado Avalanche roster battles as preseason begins - DNVR Sports

Training camp is finished and preseason games begin Sunday when the Minnesota Wild send a group to Denver to unofficially begin the new season.

thednvr.com

 

[Richard88]

I agree with AJ about the defense here...

Checking in on the Colorado Avalanche roster battles as preseason begins - DNVR Sports

Training camp is finished and preseason games begin Sunday when the Minnesota Wild send a group to Denver to unofficially begin the new season.

thednvr.com

Boston have 8 Dmen including Ian Mitchell... Maybe him?

Lindholm - McAvoy
Grzelcyk - Carlo
Zboril - Shattenkirk
Forbort - Mitchell

Or Jalen Chatfieild:

Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Pesce
Skjei - DeAngelo
Jones - Chatfield

Someome out of Arizona?

Moser - Söderström
Valimaki - Dumba
Dermott - Durzi
Stecher - Brown

Would Detroit waive McIsaac before giving him a game in the NHL?

Walman - Seider
Chiarot - Petry
Gostisbehere - Holl
Määttä - McIsaac

 

[MarkT]

I'll put this here as well:

2023 Interesting Potential Waiver Claims

Due to popular request, I've complied a list of interesting potential waiver claims. Some of the criteria is for players 25 years old or younger and with a somewhat interesting statistical profile. @Peen, @WetcoastOrca, @vancityluongo, @Lindgren, @supercanuck, @Peter Griffin, @CanucksMJL

forums.hfboards.com

So based on that list, right defensemen who may fit our need based purely on position and size:
- Alec Regula (BOS); 6'4" 208Ibs
- Dylan Coghlan (CAR); 6'2" 208Ibs
- Marcus Bjork (CBJ); 6'3" 203Ibs
- Philip Kemp (EDM) 6'3" 202Ibs
- Cal Foote (NJ) 6'5" 224Ibs

I haven't watched any of these players really so I have no idea if they are any good. Regula played for the Blackhawks before. Coghlan played for Vegas, and Foote may have a famous father or something. Kemp is a 7th rounder who has been in the AHL. Bjork is a former SHL player who got 33 games with that terrible Blue Jackets team (he has no connection to CMac or Bednar).

Boston have 8 Dmen including Ian Mitchell... Maybe him?

Lindholm - McAvoy
Grzelcyk - Carlo
Zboril - Shattenkirk
Forbort - Mitchell

Or Jalen Chatfieild:

Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Pesce
Skjei - DeAngelo
Jones - Chatfield

Someome out of Arizona?

Moser - Söderström
Valimaki - Dumba
Dermott - Durzi
Stecher - Brown

Would Detroit waive McIsaac before giving him a game in the NHL?

Walman - Seider
Chiarot - Petry
Gostisbehere - Holl
Määttä - McIsaac

Chatfield would be a great fit I think, but I'd be surprised if they waive him. The others are all lefties and/or smaller players, so not ideal (I'm not counting Arizona, because I don't think we want anyone they would be waiving).

 

[UncleRisto]

Boston have 8 Dmen including Ian Mitchell... Maybe him?

Lindholm - McAvoy
Grzelcyk - Carlo
Zboril - Shattenkirk
Forbort - Mitchell

Or Jalen Chatfieild:

Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Pesce
Skjei - DeAngelo
Jones - Chatfield

Someome out of Arizona?

Moser - Söderström
Valimaki - Dumba
Dermott - Durzi
Stecher - Brown

Would Detroit waive McIsaac before giving him a game in the NHL?

Walman - Seider
Chiarot - Petry
Gostisbehere - Holl
Määttä - McIsaac

I like how it's all the other teams' eighth defenseman, and just anyone of the eight in Arizona.

 

[Richard88]

Also wonder if Lindström shakes loose in Montreal if some of the kids take roles. Probably a long shot

Matheson - Guhle*
Xhekaj* - Savard
Harris* - Kovacevic
Lindström
Barron*
(Wideman on LTIR)

Reinbacher*
Mailloux*
Etc

 

[UncleRisto]

Also wonder if Lindström shakes loose in Montreal if some of the kids take roles. Probably a long shot

Matheson - Guhle*
Xhekaj* - Savard
Harris* - Kovacevic
Lindström
Barron*
(Wideman on LTIR)

Reinbacher*
Mailloux*
Etc

He kinda sucks, but he's Marcus Ragnarsson's nephew, which pushes him over the edge.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The Habs thought the same thing when they got him from Tampa. They literally announced him as a center and he fielded questions about playing there, saying he was confident. I don't remember exactly how long the experiment lasted, but it was a disaster. Drouin simply does not appear to be able to track the game well in the defensive zone. He forgets were players are and seems to be easily deceived by smart players. Even as a winger I worry about his defensive game. The only way he works at center is if they have his winger actually doing the defensive work down low like how Landeskog and MacKinnon used to work.

Fair enough. Just to be clear, I’m not pounding the table for this idea. It’s just that, other than Mikko, there aren’t a lot of C options at the W.

I was thinking Nichushkin can do what you described at the defensive end.

If it’s a short term stop gap, Mikko seems most likely.

 

[MarkT]

Also wonder if Lindström shakes loose in Montreal if some of the kids take roles. Probably a long shot

Matheson - Guhle*
Xhekaj* - Savard
Harris* - Kovacevic
Lindström
Barron*
(Wideman on LTIR)

Reinbacher*
Mailloux*
Etc

He makes a lot of sense as the 7th D, especially since they traded for him. One of the kids would have to steal a spot for them to waive him I think.

 

[AvsFan2123]

I mentioned Chatfield as a potential depth D with the logjam in Carolina. Since they need to shed people and I would imagine they want any form of an asset back instead of waiving for free, I’d trade a mid/late-ish round pick for him. RHD. Good size. From what I’ve seen plays fairly tough and I thought I saw he has good enough underlying metrics for someone of his caliber.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Canes can't afford to lose Chatfield if they want to trade one of their top-4 so I doubt he becomes available on waivers

 

[CobraAcesS]

Fair enough. Just to be clear, I’m not pounding the table for this idea. It’s just that, other than Mikko, there aren’t a lot of C options at the W.

I was thinking Nichushkin can do what you described at the defensive end.

If it’s a short term stop gap, Mikko seems most likely.

I know the joke well, but in the event of injuries Drouin can play center.

I'd have Nuke or Lehkky play the Landy role next to him, and try to line match as best as possible with O zone starts.

The reason I say that is it let's you keep the other lines mostly in tact, and Mikko is allergic to the position for whatever reason.

 

[dahrougem2]

Carolina probably trades Pesce before Chatfield.

 

[Balthazar]

Also wonder if Lindström shakes loose in Montreal if some of the kids take roles. Probably a long shot

Matheson - Guhle*
Xhekaj* - Savard
Harris* - Kovacevic
Lindström
Barron*
(Wideman on LTIR)

Reinbacher*
Mailloux*
Etc

The guy we really want is Kovacevic. I don't know what he'd cost but he's a legit NHL dman, right handed, with size, who can PK, signed for 2 seasons at league minimum.

 

[BobRossColton]

Chatfield would be a great waiver wire pickup

 

[Hasbro]

Cap space is expensive as f***

As Sakic proved you ask Dorian for the Moon cause he might just give it to you.

 

[The Kingslayer]

As Sakic proved you ask Dorian for the Moon cause he might just give it to you.

Hilarious that Eugene went to the media talking about how Joe ask was preposterous and then went ahead and did it anyways.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Fins 70 - Donks 20

It is officially hockey season in Broncos Country.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Fins 70 - Donks 20

It is officially hockey season in Broncos Country.

I had to do a double take when I saw that show up on Twitter. Thats insane.