RockLobster
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Dog days of the offseason, so take for what it's worth (my opinion--it's not worth much)
It says that the Avs are trading for Vladar
It says that the Avs are trading for Vladar
Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread
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Mighty Makar
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Vladar would be worse case scenario for me. Incredibly average and costs even more than Francouz. We should be trying to spend less on our backup goalie, not more.
I assume Francouz would go the other way. Either that or he's likely done for the year in which case we LTIR him.
Edit: Hard to trust the source though quite frankly. Kid is 18, but apparently he works for Dobber so maybe?
I assume Francouz would go the other way. Either that or he's likely done for the year in which case we LTIR him.
Edit: Hard to trust the source though quite frankly. Kid is 18, but apparently he works for Dobber so maybe?
RockLobster
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Oh, I'll be crystal clear--based solely on this guy, I do NOT think it's legit. I just thought it'd be fun to post it lol
Tommy Shelby
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Ya for sure. Should create more conversation if nothing else.
Vladar makes sense as a name that's available. Just doesn't make sense from a cap perspective for the Avs IMO.
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The Avs playing 4D chess by making it public they are trading for a goalie so that the other teams are not afraid to waive their better 3rd goalies.
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I mean if Calgary fully retains that’d make some sense… but taking up more cap space for at best a lateral move wouldn‘t be ideal.
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With regard to lines makeup the other issue I have with keeping Mack and Mikko together is we are not putting RyJo in a position to succeed. Let's give him the players/talent so he can have a good start of the season. Once that is accomplished than maybe you can try RyJo without Mikko to see if he can carry the 2nd line.
henchman21
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I actually don't mind Vladar, but I'm just not sure he makes a ton of sense for either party. Calgary needs to dump a goalie for Wolf to get in and establish... ideally though, he steals the starting job from Markstrom and they can move on from him. For the Avs, Vladar is simply too expensive cap wise. ~4.4m destined to the backups is too much. Even buried that is still over $3m. That is way too much off the cap for this team. Maybe you can pay for retention... but then you're probably paying a 3rd or 4th for him... when you could just wait and grab Lyon off waivers.
I just assumed it was a Reto Berra trade clone. Pay a 2nd for a shit goalie from the Flames and immediately extend him for 3 years lmao
Well according to the main boards Halak has signed with us already and are just awaiting official announcement in the next couple days from the Avs...
I'd prefer Halak over Vladar easily. Then you don't have to move Frank at all just LTIR him and dig Halak for league minimum.
If/when Frank does come back, you can send Halak down to the minors and not have any money left on the book... Plus that's a pretty good #3 quite frankly.
I'd prefer Halak over Vladar easily. Then you don't have to move Frank at all just LTIR him and dig Halak for league minimum.
If/when Frank does come back, you can send Halak down to the minors and not have any money left on the book... Plus that's a pretty good #3 quite frankly.
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Source is questionable at best...
Jaroslav Halak reportedly signs contract with Stanley Cup contender
Would absolute LOVE to see the 38 year old goalie hoist the Cup.
Ararana
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Source is questionable at best...
Jaroslav Halak reportedly signs contract with Stanley Cup contender
Would absolute LOVE to see the 38 year old goalie hoist the Cup.www.hockeyfeed.com
Prokop is a former Czech player reporting on a Slovakian. It wouldn't be the craziest thing for him to have some kind of inside info from the players side.
LOFIN
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I'm just wondering, why would Halak accept a contract without a NMC, unless he's really dead set on just getting to 300 and then he might as well hang them up.
Money? Desperation? Chance to win a cup?
Lots of reasons honestly. The fact it's September and he still isn't signed is a pretty good indicator that teams aren't exactly standing in line to sign the guy.
avsfan9
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Mack wanted Drouin signed for a reason ind it’s not to play on the third or fourth line. He is going to be given every opportunity to play on the top line and he absolutely has the talent.
I dont think his issue was with Drouin playing with Mack.
The issue is putting Mack and Mikko together. It makes the Avs way too top heavy and leaves the 2nd line much weaker. That trio(Mack/Drouin/Mikko) would also be pretty bad defensively bordering on liabilities.
Mack/Mikko are responsible enough on the defensive side so long as they have a workhorse like Nuke, Landy, or Lehky playing with them. When they don't have any of those guys, they're pretty bad defensively.
And, Drouin certainly isn't a workhorse by any means.
Mack and Drouin can play together all year long IMO and likely do well, but they need one of Lehks or Nuke playing with them for defensive work and also to create time and space for them offensively.
LOFIN
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Money? He's probably fairly well of as it stands. If he had been desperate for money, he would've been signed already for some time. I'm sure teams have called him.
Desperation? For 300 wins? That I can buy.
A chance to win a cup? Hard to do that when you are #3 and nominally have been with the AHL team. Just like Annunen when we won. I mean he was there, but was he really that big of a part of the team?
Besides, he had NMCs in his last two contracts. And let's say Frankie is out until December, you sign Halak and he backs up well. At that point, you are probably looking to move Frankie.
I would like us to get Halak, but like I said before, I just don't know how we are going to make it work. Not that hard if you want to, but there are some considerations.
Money is likely not a major driving force but it's still $800k. Again I really don't agree with thay last statement. If teams were calling him with offers, why hasn't he signed yet, especially with his agent taking to Twitter to hype him up about being 5 wins away from 300?
And the chance to win a cup would have to be high on the list I bet, along with 300 wins. Even as the #3, he would almost certainly get his name on the cup. That's the part that matters.
A chance to hit 300 wins on a contending team, and then hopefully play a role(No matter how small) in a deep playoff run would be prettt alluring.
All that said, I'm not sure an NMC should even be a hold up. If Francouz is out long enough that he needs to go on LTIR then that will create cap space. Worse case Ontario, when Frank comes back you send Olofsson or MacDermid down and carry 3 goalies. Given this teams injury history, by the time Frank comes off LTIR, someone else is probably going on it anyways
LOFIN
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Because I think he overestimated his market value. He probably thought he was getting a raise from his 1,5mil salary last season, or certainly not getting a downgrade. I'm pretty sure NYR would've preferred to keep him instead of signing Quick, if the contracts were equal. When the dust settled, a lot of the open positions have already been filled, and he has been left without a chair.
I also do believe he would like to sign for a good team. A chance to win the cup, and maybe more importantly (because his agent actually stated this), a chance to get 300 wins.
Well if he plays for half the season as a backup.
UncleRisto
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Jaroslav Halak reportedly signs contract with Stanley Cup contender
Would absolute LOVE to see the 38 year old goalie hoist the Cup.
Well, you never know with Francouz' injury being dlhodobo.
Bender
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I just came here to say that Newhook's value was Ross Colton PLUS a 1st round pick.
I know it's been a few months but it's fun to have that set in... again.
I know it's been a few months but it's fun to have that set in... again.
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