Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread
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G's value for this team right now is higher than his value on the trade market. We'd be selling ultra low and we don't have the D depth to make up for his loss.
As much as I hate to say it, I also agree and I've been on the trade G boat for a few seasons now.
NateTheGreat
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Girard’s trade value is approaching negative territory with each passing game. He’s been fine defensively at best but his offense however has completely vanished from his game. His level of play this year should be replaceable at the deadline by someone making less money than him.
Morgan Frost is a name I’d monitor for the Avs.
Morgan Frost is a name I’d monitor for the Avs.
Ararana
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They won't have a choice due to cap crunch. One of the D have to go this summer for sure. I'd love it to be Manson but it's probably Girard.
Smaller center who is a good, but not elite skater where that has held him back from really grabbing hold of a top 6 role. Yeah it checks out.
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He's coming back.
But for forum reasons... let's assume he doesn't. 78.5m committed to 13 players or 9m in cap room. 8F 5D 1G. So you need at least 4F 1D 1G and arguably 5F 2D 1G. Your best case is you can fill out the roster for an average of 1.5m per, the having extras case is 1.125m per. There is still a cap crunch with Landy. Just instead of having to trim 2 players, you may only have to trim one.
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The only player that gets a raise next year is Toews (+3.1M) and this is taken care of with the cap going up + Francouz coming off the hook. Everything else is the same.
You'll have to replace the Tatar, Drouin and MacDermids with players making the same money, that's all.
The point should be to get better players than Tatar/Drouin/Dermy/etc... not the exact same with a year older team. Yes, they can put together a similar roster without cuts, but they can't improve without cuts.
Landy is coming back though. It may not work and may not last a season, but they are going to give him a run next year for sure.
NateTheGreat
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Similar to Newhook in that regard but with a more sound defensive game. $2.1M cap hit this year and next, I’d take a flyer on him.
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I agree they should get better depth but that's not a cap crunch situation. That will come in 2025-26 with Rants and Byram.
If you believe that Landy comes back we might as well stick a fork on that team. We'll lose our 2nd pairing on D on top of having shit forward depth.
Personally, I'd prefer they go after a guy more offensively slanted on the upside.
I'd say it is a crunch because you're going to have ~10 guys who are 1.5m or less. Just because you don't have to massively sell doesn't mean there isn't a large constraint.
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Bill Peckerskull
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You think Calgary would entertain a Girard + RyJo + 1st + a couple prospects for Lindholm + Tanev? No salary retained. Or do you have to change G to Bo to even start a conversation?
I guess, you could also just do G + 1st for Lindholm, and keep RyJo to C the 3rd line. But, then you'll have to rely on Malinski or Jones as a top 4 Dman. You probably have to move Tatar. Otherwise, he's just eating nachos.
I guess, you could also just do G + 1st for Lindholm, and keep RyJo to C the 3rd line. But, then you'll have to rely on Malinski or Jones as a top 4 Dman. You probably have to move Tatar. Otherwise, he's just eating nachos.
G isn't getting a 2C and similar to Horvat, any team trading for Lindholm will be re-signing him (for too much). The piece to get a 2C is Bo.
I'd add... the fact that Bo is the piece to get the 2C points to the Avs simply not making that move. They clearly don't want to move him now that he is with the team and playing in a top 4 role. This isn't the situation where a Connor/Byram swap would have helped push the Avs over the top. Byram is a top 4D for under 4m for 1.75 more seasons and a key player on the team.
IMO the Avs roster is pretty well set this year, for better or for worse. There might be some playing on the fringes to bring in a top 9 winger or a RD... but that's really about all that should be expected. There isn't room or assets for much more than that.
IMO the Avs roster is pretty well set this year, for better or for worse. There might be some playing on the fringes to bring in a top 9 winger or a RD... but that's really about all that should be expected. There isn't room or assets for much more than that.
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If you trade Byram you gotta find a young center with upside, preferably one that the team doesn't believe they can keep long term. So basically Trevor Zegras.
I know you think that Zegras will be 1C in Anaheim long term but I doubt that's what they have in mind. Verbeek likes guys like Carlsson and McTavish a lot more than the Zegras type.
Bill Peckerskull
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I'd trade Byram for Zegras in a heartbeat.
That's a misconception with Verbeek. Verbeek at forward likes supremely skilled guys and thinks defense and grit can be taught. If he can get both from the start, of course he'd like that... but this is the guy that pounded the table for Vrana and Raymond in Detroit.
dahrougem2
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I would do Byram for Zegras as well but I'm not sure Anaheim would.
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