Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[Balthazar]

I don't feel that way personally as the alternative to this escrow and payback period would have been to go the NFL route and have a pull back on the cap. That would have been WAY worse for the NHL. 20-21 would have been roughly a 75m cap and 21-22 in the realm of 55-60m. With a large jump back to 83m last year and this year being close to 87m. Yeah that'd be better today... but those first two years would have lead to an exodus from the Avs far worse than the 04-05 lockout.

One of the reasons we have ownership crying poor like in Winnipeg is essentially the owners footed the bill from the first covid shutdown until the Avs won the Cup. IIRC in 20-21, the owners actually paid more in raw salaries than they brought in for the whole season in HRR.

Yet players still whine about escrow when it's by far the best solution for them in a 50-50 context.

 

[BoneCherry]

The amateur scout definitely get some black marks from this.... but CMac/Sakic shouldn't escape it either. The decisions to re-sign Manson and Frank and continuing to bring back/keep up JMFJ/Dermy has eroded what little cap space the Avs have had. It is too early to judge for sure, but the early results on Colton, Wood, and RyJo also point right to 10m of cap that is inefficient. This always tends to happen with teams, but with narrow margins in the NHL, it is hard to say elite when you have all these things happening, even with elite players.

What is kinda scary is if Landy returns next year, this situation is likely to get even worse with depth and inefficiencies. But that's a future problem.

Would you say the owners could be blamed? The AHL talent is always sufficient enough to help them in the standings, but not quite good enough to play in the NHL. The NHL side lacks. I'm wondering if ownership put something into the profitability angle from concessions vs. the cap. Or would I be off-base i that? I'm not sure how things work out within this organization.

 

[niwotsblessing]

They still haven't tried the one damn thing that made the most sense for making Drouin work..

Mack & Drouin with either one of Nuke or Lehkky. It's f***ing hilarious at this point.

Your idea means we'd have Moose with RyJo and Lehky/Nuke, which also makes the most sense for getting RyJo to work.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Your idea means we'd have Moose with RyJo and Lehky/Nuke, which also makes the most sense for getting RyJo to work.

We've been making those exact lines since the summer, why they never thought to try them is beyond me. Too late at this point now though.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Bring him back as a forward

 

[LOFIN]

I really like Zadorov as a personality. And he's a great bottom pairing D-man. But he thinks way too highly of himself, how on Earth did he get almost 4mil lol?

Seems like a match made in heaven with the Leafs.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I really like Zadorov as a personality. And he's a great bottom pairing D-man. But he thinks way too highly of himself, how on Earth did he get almost 4mil lol?

Seems like a match made in heaven with the Leafs.

Ye have little faith, Zads is only (insert current Zadorov age), he’s breaking out any time now

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Balthazar]

His agents claims that he doesn't play enough...and Z is on a contract year.

1 + 1

 

[dahrougem2]

Wonder what he's looking for? He currently plays just over 18 minutes per night, which is 5th on the Flames D-corps. Perhaps more playing time? Or maybe he's sick of the Flames losing ways?

He's been one of the more outspoken Flames.

 

[Balthazar]

Wonder what he's looking for? He currently plays just over 18 minutes per night, which is 5th on the Flames D-corps. Perhaps more playing time? Or maybe he's sick of the Flames losing ways?

He's been one of the more outspoken Flames.

More playing time for a bigger contract next year.

 

[LOFIN]

Seems delusional, because he's overpaid as it is.

 

[Balthazar]

Klingberg+ ?

 

[The Merchant]

Come home

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I was at that Leafs game tonight. Zadorov was legit so good lol.

I love Z. Always have. Hope he ends up somewhere good but man, I dunno about Toronto. Yes they need defense. But they don’t need anyone who has massive blunders. A couple bad turnovers and things can get reallll bad. Or… Z has a great 6 months and becomes a very rich man.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

For tatar ? Done

 

[Balthazar]

 

[Vk1ing]

Zadorov Manson pairing would either be a scary good or scary bad lol. JJ being a 7th d would help though

 

[Avs9296]

Zadorov Manson pairing would either be a scary good or scary bad lol. JJ being a 7th d would help though

More likely the 2nd one you said.

 

[Balthazar]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Zadorov Manson pairing would either be a scary good or scary bad lol. JJ being a 7th d would help though

Think you'd have to go

Toews/Makar
G/Z
Bo/Manz

 

[RECKLESS]

Zads to Edmonton, top pair hehhehe.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Zads to Edmonton, top pair hehhehe.

Campbell + Holloway + Pick for Vladar and Z.

 

[Cypher]

Avs would have to move Manson to make Z fit within the cap. But if they're trading with CGY, might as well try and get Lindholm too.

Manson 4.5 m + Tatar 1.5 m = 6.0 m + OO + Foudy + 1st
for
Zadorov 3.75 m + Lindholm 2.425 m (50%) = 6.175 m