Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[sethro109]

I was told our summer acquisitions were much better

Duchene could score 50 this year and I'd still be happy we didn't sign him.

 

[Avaholic29]

Not wanting Patrick Kane is funny. Not going to find a better top 6 option available without solid assets at the deadline.

 

[Avaholic29]

I was told our summer acquisitions were much better

Lol I don’t think that can be proven by either side after this small of a sample. Duchene did nothing the first five games and the only thing that matters is playoff results.

 

[Balthazar]

Duchene could score 50 this year and I'd still be happy we didn't sign him.

Yea but the context was who got better last summer, the Stars or the Avs.

 

[dahrougem2]

Count me in the group that don't want Kane as well. What the Avs need to do is this:

Tufte - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - RJ - Mikko
Wood - Rosco - LOC
Cogs - Oloffsson - Tatar (for now)

and wait for Kovalenko to arrive. Hopefully Landy can play in the playoffs as well. But at the very least we then have:

Tufte - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - RJ - Mikko
Wood - Rosco - Kovy
Cogs - Oloffsson - LOC

You're just asking for trouble with Riley Tufte on the top line lol. That's not good.

 

[henchman21]

You're just asking for trouble with Riley Tufte on the top line lol. That's not good.

Yeah that would be horrendous. It’s bad he’s on the 2nd line but Bednar clearly doesn’t want to mess too much with the bottom 6.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yea but the context was who got better last summer, the Stars or the Avs.

I think the context was did the Stars off season additions make them better than the Avs. Not who had the better off season additions.

 

[Hasbro]

You're just asking for trouble with Riley Tufte on the top line lol. That's not good.

6'6"

 

[Balthazar]

I wonder if Tatar is tradable. If Francouz isn't coming back and Tatar is tradable, that leaves 3.5M to sign Kane or get someone else.

 

[henchman21]

I wonder if Tatar is tradable. If Francouz isn't coming back and Tatar is tradable, that leaves 3.5M to sign Kane or get someone else.

Guy sat around all summer and ended up signing a cheap deal... nobody is moving any real assets to get him. Maybe if you waive him, but not even sure then with the performance he's had. Teams will simply look at him and think he'd probably do even worse on their teams. Gotta play out of his funk.

The Avs are going to have to play around with the fringes of the lineup and maybe call up/waive players... but as a whole, they kinda just have to figure it out with who they got until January. Given the schedule, that should be fine... but will be frustrating at times.

 

[Chiarelli]

ya the big moves are done until the trade deadline and even then I am not expecting much

 

[Tommy Shelby]

They'll most likely wait until the deadline when Tufte will have replaced Drouin, Tatar will get buried and replaced by Kovalenko, and they'll probably snag a forward or two for cheap with money retained. They'll make it work.

If Drouin or Tatar are dressed in the playoffs, something has gone horribly wrong and we are getting bounced early.

 

[UncleRisto]

Ain't no way Tatar AND Drouin both get buried for the whole season. One of those guys has to be able to provide some value in offensive production sooner or later. Otherwise it's a ridiculous misfire by the pro scouting and coaching staff.

 

[JH21]

Ain't no way Tatar AND Drouin both get buried for the whole season. One of those guys has to be able to provide some value in offensive production sooner or later. Otherwise it's a ridiculous misfire by the pro scouting and coaching staff.

You can't get blood out of a stone man.

I'm not surprised Drouin is doing nothing. He hasn't done anything for 4 years and guys expected him to come in and be a first line LW. I gave him 10 games before he was demoted and called him this years Alex Galchenyuk. He will be in the press box permanently soon.

I am a little surprised with Tatar though. I know he's a lazy player and not physical but I thought he could at least bury the puck and would be good for 15-20 goals.

But if you don't hustle and backcheck and be a menace on the forecheck you don't play for Bednar. Plain and simple. These guys are in the doghouse and I don't think they will ever come out.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Ain't no way Tatar AND Drouin both get buried for the whole season. One of those guys has to be able to provide some value in offensive production sooner or later. Otherwise it's a ridiculous misfire by the pro scouting and coaching staff.

I don't think it's a misfiring. They were clearly budget options.

 

[Balthazar]

I am a little surprised with Tatar though. I know he's a lazy player and not physical but I thought he could at least bury the puck and would be good for 15-20 goals.

He's turning 33 in a couple of weeks. It's possible that his NHL career is over.

I don't think it's a misfiring. They were clearly budget options.

Yea...most times when you gamble you lose.

 

[henchman21]

We all know Drouin wasn't really a pro scouting thing... it was MacK. MacK sold his BFF on a chance and sold the Avs on Drouin. I wouldn't pin him on the pro scouting staff. Tatar on the other hand fits a lot of what the Avs have done over the last few years. His success/failure will be on the pro staff.

Wood/Colton fit the desire stated by both Bednar and CMac to get bigger/more physical. So they went and got guys that fit that mold. They also are projecting them in different roles than they played in the past. Their success/failure will be on the pro staff.

RyJo was simply a risky chance. He's played well in the past, but you got him for free at a half rate on the bet there was something left in the tank.

I have a bit of a worry that the Avs desire to get bigger and more physical is taking away from the core's identity and the Avs are pulling together a hodgepodge of players that don't really mix.

 

[Balthazar]

I have a bit of a worry that the Avs desire to get bigger and more physical is taking away from the core's identity and the Avs are pulling together a hodgepodge of players that don't really mix.

I think the more physical guys fit well. It's the softies that don't.

 

[Pokecheque]

We all know Drouin wasn't really a pro scouting thing... it was MacK. MacK sold his BFF on a chance and sold the Avs on Drouin. I wouldn't pin him on the pro scouting staff. Tatar on the other hand fits a lot of what the Avs have done over the last few years. His success/failure will be on the pro staff.

Wood/Colton fit the desire stated by both Bednar and CMac to get bigger/more physical. So they went and got guys that fit that mold. They also are projecting them in different roles than they played in the past. Their success/failure will be on the pro staff.

RyJo was simply a risky chance. He's played well in the past, but you got him for free at a half rate on the bet there was something left in the tank.

I have a bit of a worry that the Avs desire to get bigger and more physical is taking away from the core's identity and the Avs are pulling together a hodgepodge of players that don't really mix.

If nothing else, I think the addition of Johansen makes them a much slower team overall. Drouin and Tatar aren’t exactly speedsters either.

 

[henchman21]

I think the more physical guys fit well. It's the softies that don't.

IDK... I think the jury is still out. Colton has been trash way more often than not, and the same with Wood. They may skate fast in a straight line and hit, but that's all they can really do (when apparently not playing New Jersey). They don't maintain the puck, they don't win battles all that often... they simply move the puck, dump it, couple hits, then go off for a change. That's not what the Avs were built on. They were built on maintaining the puck and keeping pressure. Not grind teams.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think you have to leave Tatar on the top line. He's a smart player, and for some reason he doesn't look TOO bad there compared to every other line. He seems to forecheck harder when with 29, too.

Just live with the warts. If you can get production out of him, it might allow you to play Lehkonen with Colton and Wood.

 

[UncleRisto]

I don't think it's a misfiring. They were clearly budget options.

It's not an outrageous error by any means. Budget options are budget options, but you whiff on a budget, too. If both are done after ten games and you can't deploy either in a useful way, someone's f***ing up besides the lazy players.

And yes, the MacK thing is true.

 

[henchman21]

I think you have to leave Tatar on the top line. He's a smart player, and for some reason he doesn't look TOO bad there compared to every other line. He seems to forecheck harder when with 29, too.

Just live with the warts. If you can get production out of him, it might allow you to play Lehkonen with Colton and Wood.

Agreed. He's skilled enough to help there and also hidden. It also hopefully keeps AHL lifers out of the top 6.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

You're just asking for trouble with Riley Tufte on the top line lol. That's not good.

I don't disagree but I just like him better than Drouin and Tatar. This is just until the TDL and/or Kovalenko arrived. Kovy is also a question mark obviously but he is a Lehky-type player and if he translate well to the NHL he will also be a better fit than Drouin and Tatar for the playoffs. The Avs could also upgrade on those guys at the TDL. Due to cap the Avs don't have a lot of choices this season unfortunately.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

It's not an outrageous error by any means. Budget options are budget options, but you whiff on a budget, too. If both are done after ten games and you can't deploy either in a useful way, someone's f***ing up besides the lazy players.

And yes, the MacK thing is true.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I'll give them a bit of leeway when the instructions provided to them are "so you've got 1 dollar to fix a 10 dollar issue, good luck!".

I think it further highlights how badly the amateur scouts have done over the years where there is virtually no one that can come up and be cheap depth.