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Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Part Deux

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Balthazar said:
Not Byram or Zadorov if that's who you were thinking of.

Tyler Myers perhaps...same team too.
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A team wanting Risto gives me hope for Manson. Maybe someone else wants to add "snot" to their lineup and he'll waive! Assuming the Avs actually want to trade him, which I'm not certain of.

Anyways, Kadri and Tanev, please.
 
Avs_19 said:
A team wanting Risto gives me hope for Manson. Maybe someone else wants to add "snot" to their lineup and he'll waive! Assuming the Avs actually want to trade him, which I'm not certain of.

Anyways, Kadri and Tanev, please.
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The issue with Manson is his NTC. Without that he'd be easy to trade.

Toronto has plenty of cap space and is looking specifically for a RD with size and some grit according to Friedman. If we were to offer Manson Treliving would jump on the phone.
 
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Need to find a way to shake loose JEE or Jenner. based on standings and what's available I feel like those are the only viable options. Maybe Lindholm as a rental but doesn't really seem like cmacs MO (huge a assets for a rental)

I cant really see Billy G trading JEE or accepting any kind of rebuild though so that leaves Jenner
 
dahrougem2 said:
It has everything to do with contracts.
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Lindholm's next one will arguably be worse (not that Kadri's is good). I'd probably go even further and say there is a 90+% chance of being worse. Significantly more money, more term, only 1 year younger at the signing date... with a very good chance at being buyout proof.
 
Pierce Hawthorne said:
Does Johansen have a NTC/NMC?

If not, RyJo+ for Kadri probably wouldn't be all that expensive of a deal for us asset wise and I think the Avs would have a reasonable easy time fitting Naz into the cap situation next year.
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Why people think that the Avs would want Kadri back? Avs could have had him for cheaper and said no thanks.

That's even worse than people who thought Stastny woud be back.
 
Pierce Hawthorne said:
Does Johansen have a NTC/NMC?

If not, RyJo+ for Kadri probably wouldn't be all that expensive of a deal for us asset wise and I think the Avs would have a reasonable easy time fitting Naz into the cap situation next year.
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RyJo has no clauses in his contract.

Define easy... if Landy comes back the players currently under contract (swapping RyJo and Kadri) would be at 88.8m with 10F (this include Kovalenko)-6D (includes Malinski)-1G. That roster needs 3 to even be iced... 4 or 5 to have extras for injuries, and still has to cut over a million. You'd be moving G for nothing and league minimum players. Certainly can be done... but easier said than done.
 
henchman21 said:
Lindholm's next one will arguably be worse (not that Kadri's is good). I'd probably go even further and say there is a 90+% chance of being worse. Significantly more money, more term, only 1 year younger at the signing date... with a very good chance at being buyout proof.
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Which is why you trade for him as a rental. You try to go as all-in as possible this season and win another Stanley Cup before accepting the growing pains of Ritchie/2C by committee.
 
dahrougem2 said:
Which is why you trade for him as a rental. You try to go as all-in as possible this season and win another Stanley Cup before accepting the growing pains of Ritchie/2C by committee.
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I'm down to load up as a rental, but I just don't see anybody acquiring Lindholm to do that and teams will add a touch more in value to accomplish it. Meaning the Avs probably have to move their 1st + Ritchie/Goulash + RyJo at least to grab Lindholm. Probably one more piece. I don't see that happening.
 
Avs_19 said:
A team wanting Risto gives me hope for Manson. Maybe someone else wants to add "snot" to their lineup and he'll waive! Assuming the Avs actually want to trade him, which I'm not certain of.

Anyways, Kadri and Tanev, please.
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In the summer maybe when his NTC becomes modified.
 
I don't think we'll be getting an elite 2nd line anytime soon, and I don't think we're 1 center away from fixing it unless Landy is back in the playoffs.

So the next best option is to go to the Tampa route and make the rest of the lineup a pain in the ass to play against.

If Seattle is clearly out of the running I wonder if we could get them to bite on RyJo + 1st + for Gourde.
 
PAZ said:
I don't think we'll be getting an elite 2nd line anytime soon, and I don't think we're 1 center away from fixing it unless Landy is back in the playoffs.

So the next best option is to go to the Tampa route and make the rest of the lineup a pain in the ass to play against.

If Seattle is clearly out of the running I wonder if we could get them to bite on RyJo + 1st + for Gourde.
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I mean just get Lindholm at that point.
 
henchman21 said:
RyJo has no clauses in his contract.

Define easy... if Landy comes back the players currently under contract (swapping RyJo and Kadri) would be at 88.8m with 10F (this include Kovalenko)-6D (includes Malinski)-1G. That roster needs 3 to even be iced... 4 or 5 to have extras for injuries, and still has to cut over a million. You'd be moving G for nothing and league minimum players. Certainly can be done... but easier said than done.
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I think that would be easy.

Especially when you factor in that the remaining players to fill out the roster would be 4th liners and bottom pairing Dmen. We shouldn't be spending more than $800-900k on them anyways and we aren't really right now either.


Lehky - Mack - Mikko
Landy - Kadri - Nuke
Wood - Colton - Kovalenko
LOC - ???? - ????


Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
???? Malinski

George
????


Basically leaves them with $4M for the final 4 roster spots or $800k each to run a 21 man roster.
 
henchman21 said:
I'm down to load up as a rental, but I just don't see anybody acquiring Lindholm to do that and teams will add a touch more in value to accomplish it. Meaning the Avs probably have to move their 1st + Ritchie/Goulash + RyJo at least to grab Lindholm. Probably one more piece. I don't see that happening.
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I'd move that. Another one, probably some piece. But I think we still end up losing the bidding.
 
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Pierce Hawthorne said:
I think that would be easy.

Especially when you factor in that the remaining players to fill out the roster would be 4th liners and bottom pairing Dmen. We shouldn't be spending more than $800-900k on them anyways and we aren't really right now either.


Lehky - Mack - Mikko
Landy - Kadri - Nuke
Wood - Colton - Kovalenko
LOC - ???? - ????


Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
???? Malinski

George
????


Basically leaves them with $4M for the final 4 roster spots or $800k each to run a 21 man roster.
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21 man roster means you’ll be playing short a lot to get a ‘free’ call up. Still… gotta find guys who can contribute cheap, not pay anybody excess, and dump G for no salary coming back.

Almost any cap situation can be figured out with enough wherewithal… I just don’t see it as super easy.
 
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